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[Tesunie]

Wintersdark, on 26 February 2017 - 10:45 PM, said:

So, I'd expect increased AMS to result in overall decreased LRM use, moderately on both counts. But this would allow for some LRM tweaking.

Either it would allow some LRM tweaking and making them a more "reliable" weapon system, or it would just make LRMs continue to be a weapon "deadly to the lower skilled, more challenging to more skilled" weapon system.

AKA: Either everyone would load up on AMS to balance LRMs new upgrades, or LRMs would be deadly when in matches without AMS, and harmless in matches with AMS. Much like the early days of ECM, which sometimes is still a problem even today. (A match full of ECM mechs on one team, against a team with some LRM support starts to feel a little lopsided, even today. It can still knock an entire weapon system out of the game, unless a lot of luck and/or skill is involved with the LRMs.)

(I know. I insinuated that LRMs require skills. I'm crazy. I know.)

[Galenit]

Tesunie, on 26 February 2017 - 05:32 PM, said:

Being rewarded for protecting allies and working in a better team manner, should be a thing. It shouldn't really reward you for when you are protecting yourself in my opinion. My concern here is only that it might make AMS so thick that LRMs can't even attempt to cut through it, forget about ECM, Radar Deprivation, etc...

Just increase speed and damage of lrms by 5% every patch until at least 50% of all mechs in all matches mount ams.

Then start revamping the whole lrm, ecm, lock, direct/indirect, ams system and put in on pts ...

Edited by Galenit, 27 February 2017 - 04:02 AM.

[Tesunie]

Galenit, on 27 February 2017 - 03:58 AM, said:

Just increase speed and damage of lrms by 5% every patch until at least 50% of all mechs in all matches mount ams.

Then start revamping the whole lrm, ecm, lock, direct/indirect, ams system and put in on pts ...

Not even a gradual increase in LRMs would force people to use AMS. More than likely, it would case a mass population growth in LRM usage (like every other time a change has happened to LRMs). Followed by "LRMagadon" claims, with no regard to the use of AMS or even ECM as a possible counter...

I'm also not entirely sure the whole LRM system needs to be changed. It could use some tweaks and improvements to some parts, but the overall basics seem solid to me. At least with how locking and general behavor is associated. Speed, spread, direct vs indirect, tracking, LRM5, 10, 15, 20 relationships... These could use some alterations. I don't believe locking systems or damage output could use changes.

Of course, I'd also be willing to try anything out to see if it works and/or feels better. I just don't want to see drastic changes make live right away...