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[Natred]

More more more!! More variaty and utility would be nice for clan drop decks. Mechs with full jump jets, mechs with ecm, mechs with 4 ballistic slots, mechs with shield arms. Mechs with laser duration, energy heat quirks and structure. Mechs that are fast and nimble that bring more to the table, linebacker and the huntsmans were nice additions. Mechs with sensor boost module.

Next 3 mechs and now the flock of inner sphere hero mechs coming, clan need some more love.

Edited by Natred, 03 March 2017 - 10:07 AM.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Expect a 90 tonner (Blood Asp or Mad Cat MKII) to be announced this month with the new tech announcement stuff with probably a 70 tonner (Nova Cat).

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 03 March 2017 - 10:08 AM.

[SpiralFace]

How about instead more mechs in general from the 20-55 ton weight bracket?

2016 already saw a year that had *8* of the 11 mechs to come out be heavies and assault mechs, with only 3 mediums and ZERO lights coming out for an entire year.

The Lower half of the weight bracket needs much more representation at this point then adding yet another heavy / assault to the mix.

[Metus regem]

SpiralFace, on 03 March 2017 - 10:13 AM, said:

How about instead more mechs in general from the 20-55 ton weight bracket?

2016 already saw a year that had *8* of the 11 mechs to come out be heavies and assault mechs, with only 3 mediums and ZERO lights coming out for an entire year.

The Lower half of the weight bracket needs much more representation at this point then adding yet another heavy / assault to the mix.

Espically when there are some rather intteresting lower weight mechs...

Piranha (20)
Great Wyrm (45)
Coyotl (40)
Urbanmech IIC (30)
Locust IIC (25)
Shadow Hawk IIC (45)
Pouncer (40)

Just to name a few...

[Quicksilver Aberration]

SpiralFace, on 03 March 2017 - 10:13 AM, said:

How about instead more mechs in general from the 20-55 ton weight bracket?

2016 already saw a year that had *8* of the 11 mechs to come out be heavies and assault mechs, with only 3 mediums and ZERO lights coming out for an entire year.

The Lower half of the weight bracket needs much more representation at this point then adding yet another heavy / assault to the mix.

Lights need love, but mediums don't really need that much love. They just need one more chassis (40 or 55 tonner) to be tied with both heavies and assaults for number of chassis' on the Clan side. Overall the game has the same number of chassis for both heavies and mediums (when considering IS and Clan).

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 03 March 2017 - 10:17 AM.

[Natred]

I do not believe it will be the nova cat. They just did what they wanted to do to fill with the super nova, the super nova and nova cat are to similar of niche. They may have to create their own to fill the 70 ton niche 80 ton or 90 ton niches properly, similar to what they are doing for the roughneck.

[Valdarion Silarius]

SpiralFace, on 03 March 2017 - 10:13 AM, said:

How about instead more mechs in general from the 20-55 ton weight bracket?

2016 already saw a year that had *8* of the 11 mechs to come out be heavies and assault mechs, with only 3 mediums and ZERO lights coming out for an entire year.

The Lower half of the weight bracket needs much more representation at this point then adding yet another heavy / assault to the mix.

I have to agree with this. The clans are seriously lacking in variety in lights. Mediums are a difficult bracket since the clans are not really known for their medium mechs. If PGI had any sense with how the released things, it would make logical sense to introduce new lights from the newer tech era to gauge how they would perform with the current mechs before we jump into the assault boat again.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Arnold The Governator, on 03 March 2017 - 10:19 AM, said:

Mediums are a difficult bracket since the clans are not really known for their medium mechs.

Which is ironic given how strong the Clan mediums are as a whole.

Arnold The Governator, on 03 March 2017 - 10:19 AM, said:

The clans are seriously lacking in variety in lights.

What variety exactly are you expecting.......there really isn't many options with what you can do with lights to begin with. If we got the Locust IIC we would just need a throw away 20 tonner and any other light added would be just to appease light pilots with superfluous designs.

[Metus regem]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 03 March 2017 - 10:21 AM, said:

What variety exactly are you expecting.......there really isn't many options with what you can do with lights to begin with. If we got the Locust IIC we would just need a throw away 20 tonner and any other light added would be just to appease light pilots with superfluous designs.

-shrug-

I'd rock a Piranha over a Locust IIC, but I'm cray like that...

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Metus regem, on 03 March 2017 - 10:23 AM, said:

-shrug-

I'd rock a Piranha over a Locust IIC, but I'm cray like that...

I mean the Piranha would be fun don't get me wrong (and I would love to see it), but I'm not going to pretend it would magically offer Clans viable options like the Locust IIC would.

[Valdarion Silarius]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 03 March 2017 - 10:21 AM, said:

Which is ironic given how strong the Clan mediums are as a whole.


What variety exactly are you expecting.......there really isn't many options with what you can do with lights to begin with. If we got the Locust IIC we would just need a throw away 20 tonner and any other light added would be just to appease light pilots with superfluous designs.

Well for one the Solitaire might be an interesting addition to the clan mech arsenal. It's an energy boat but I always welcome more battlemechs. We also have the Cougar and the Firemoth which also would be two mechs I would love to pilot. I'm not a big light mech pilot myself but I do occasionally enjoy them.

[Metus regem]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 03 March 2017 - 10:24 AM, said:

I mean the Piranha would be fun don't get me wrong (and I would love to see it), but I'm not going to pretend it would magically offer Clans viable options like the Locust IIC would.

Not going to disagree with your points, but I'll take what's fun over optimal any day.... besides, later versions of the Piranha really change how it works...

The V2 uses ER Micro lasers and Heavy Lasers.
The V3 uses ER Micro and Micro Pulse with a targeting computer
The V4 uses LMG Array and MG array with a targeting computer

[Jackal Noble]

SpiralFace, on 03 March 2017 - 10:13 AM, said:

How about instead more mechs in general from the 20-55 ton weight bracket?

2016 already saw a year that had *8* of the 11 mechs to come out be heavies and assault mechs, with only 3 mediums and ZERO lights coming out for an entire year.

The Lower half of the weight bracket needs much more representation at this point then adding yet another heavy / assault to the mix.

Lights - Incubus, UrbieIIC, LocustIIC, Hellion for sure - Sorry don't care about the Firemoth or Piranha.

Mediums - VAPOR EAGLE ALL DAMN DAY, Great Wyrm, Battle Cobra, and a number of IICs

[Gas Guzzler]

The Supernova doesn't really overlap with the Nova Cat, being a 63 kph assault vs a 70 kph 70 tonner, and all.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Arnold The Governator, on 03 March 2017 - 10:31 AM, said:

Well for one the Solitaire might be an interesting addition to the clan mech arsenal.

Why, it is a worse Locust IIC :/

JackalBeast, on 03 March 2017 - 10:40 AM, said:

Lights - Incubus, LocustIIC

Mediums - VAPOR EAGLE ALL DAMN DAY

These are the only potentially viable ones that you didn't list vaguely.

Metus regem, on 03 March 2017 - 10:32 AM, said:

The V2 uses ER Micro lasers and Heavy Lasers.
The V3 uses ER Micro and Micro Pulse with a targeting computer
The V4 uses LMG Array and MG array with a targeting computer

Regardless, if we are never getting the Fire Moth, what other 20 tonner is worth even bothering with outside the Piranha? None that come to my mind.

Arnold The Governator, on 03 March 2017 - 10:31 AM, said:

We also have the Cougar and the Firemoth which also would be two mechs I would love to pilot. I'm not a big light mech pilot myself but I do occasionally enjoy them.

I can tell you aren't a big light mech pilot because you listed the Cougar which would basically be a worse Adder. I love the look of the Cougar and I feel nostalgia for it, but I'm also aware of how horribly it would suck where it is stuck as a 5/8 light where BV isn't here to save it.

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 03 March 2017 - 10:48 AM.

[Widowmaker1981]

Gas Guzzler, on 03 March 2017 - 10:41 AM, said:

The Supernova doesn't really overlap with the Nova Cat, being a 63 kph assault vs a 70 kph 70 tonner, and all.

yeah, and the fact that the Nova Cat is an Omni which has several good ballistic pods, including a 10 slot, 3B arm..

The guy you quoted is just thinking about the Nova Cat prime and Supernova base model stock loadouts both being all ERLLy, which is completely irrelevant in this game.

Edited by Widowmaker1981, 03 March 2017 - 10:54 AM.

[Xoxim SC]

I'd like to see more lights and mediums. Sick and tired of all the heavy and assault mechs, especially with the pin point meta.

Edited by Todd Lightbringer, 03 March 2017 - 10:53 AM.

[Gas Guzzler]

Todd Lightbringer, on 03 March 2017 - 10:52 AM, said:

I'd like to see more lights and mediums. Sick and tired of all the heavy and assault mechs, especially with the pin point meta.

Lol aside from the fact that lights and mediums also ascribe to the pin point meta?

[Jackal Noble]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 03 March 2017 - 10:45 AM, said:

These are the only potentially viable ones that you didn't list vaguely.

what about that is vague? K, fine for the medium IICs, throw in the Shadowhawk and Griffin.

[Weeny Machine]

I'd like to see more lights and mediums as well. The heavy and assault variety is enormous. The light mech class has the least variety

Maybe they could add a mech with a special piece of equipment like the Cyclops has?

SpiralFace, on 03 March 2017 - 10:13 AM, said:

How about instead more mechs in general from the 20-55 ton weight bracket?

2016 already saw a year that had *8* of the 11 mechs to come out be heavies and assault mechs, with only 3 mediums and ZERO lights coming out for an entire year.

The Lower half of the weight bracket needs much more representation at this point then adding yet another heavy / assault to the mix.

Lights don't sell

Why? Because PGI kicks them repeatedly between the legs.

Why? Because some heavy or assault jokey with zero situational awareness or terribly aim gets killed by an oversized 35 gigantic-sized mech like the Wolfie and runs to the forums and cry their little heart out

Edited by Bush Hopper, 03 March 2017 - 11:01 AM.