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[Dethsphere]

So I built a laser build with stacked armor, and heat efficiency plus 5 consumable slots. 2 cool shot 18 an arty air and land plus a uav. Is this not consumable overload. Do they not remember the days of the arty's? When everyone took 2 arty's it was horrible.

[1Grimbane]

top kek.... it was waaay better with both air/arty combo. the whole battlefield was really alive back then

[Monkey Lover]

Anything that breaks up the murder ball is fine with me.

[chucklesMuch]

Alpha, alpha, coolshot18, alpha, alpha, cool shot18, alpha, alpha.... nope cant see a problem... :/

... we might be seeing a lot of smoke in games too... a lot of expensive smoke

The PTS 60k per consumable is too expensive in my opinion too

Edited by chucklesMuch, 03 March 2017 - 03:06 PM.

[Monkey Lover]

chucklesMuch, on 03 March 2017 - 03:06 PM, said:

Alpha, alpha, coolshot18, alpha, alpha, cool shot18, alpha, alpha.... nope cant see a problem... :/

... we might be seeing a lot of smoke in games too... a lot of expensive smoke

The PTS 60k per consumable is too expensive in my opinion too

Isn't it 80k?

I'm not spending 80k to alpha unless I'm in a brawl haha

[Dethsphere]

A lot of us have cdills to blow. I will most likely use both cool shots, artys, and uavs every round.

[1Grimbane]

Coming soon to a battle near you

[Felicitatem Parco]

Dethsphere, on 03 March 2017 - 03:11 PM, said:

A lot of us have cdills to blow. I will most likely use both cool shots, artys, and uavs every round.

In Faction Play, right?

Quickplay would be rather unprofitable if you burn 160+k in consumables each match...

[JC Daxion]

chucklesMuch, on 03 March 2017 - 03:06 PM, said:

Alpha, alpha, coolshot18, alpha, alpha, cool shot18, alpha, alpha.... nope cant see a problem... :/

... we might be seeing a lot of smoke in games too... a lot of expensive smoke

The PTS 60k per consumable is too expensive in my opinion too

Cant you do that right now, just load up 2 coolshots? I don't see any difference on that aspect


also PTS consumables are back to 40k..


AND,, i really think they should allow you to load up 6 or even 8.. I personally have no issue with 8, but limit the use to 2 or 3 per match.. they are all situational, and i personally like the idea that i can choose on of 4 options at any time. (i also don't think you should have to unlock additional slots, though not an issue with upgrades on them with points)

I want to think about the situtation and decide, Not be dictated that i loaded up a airstrike, but an art would be far better at this point in time. It is after all a radio call, Not a item loaded on your mech. Coolshot, is loaded on your mech, but nothing wrong with rules saying.. OK you used two coolshots, you now cant access the others.

[chucklesMuch]

Monkey Lover, on 03 March 2017 - 03:10 PM, said:

Isn't it 80k?

I'm not spending 80k to alpha unless I'm in a brawl haha

In PTS you can have 6 consumables... 2xcool 2xstrikes 2xUAV ...60K each... so 360K in a match, if you want... or mc

Having 3 is easy to unlock... 6 a bit crazy... but having 4 is not unlikely... with boosts to strikes you can unlock... BOOM!!!

JC Daxion, on 03 March 2017 - 03:23 PM, said:

Cant you do that right now, just load up 2 coolshots? I don't see any difference on that aspect


also PTS consumables are back to 40k..


AND,, i really think they should allow you to load up 6 or even 8.. I personally have no issue with 8, but limit the use to 2 or 3 per match.. they are all situational, and i personally like the idea that i can choose on of 4 options at any time. (i also don't think you should have to unlock additional slots, though not an issue with upgrades on them with points)



I want to think about the situtation and decide, Not be dictated that i loaded up a airstrike, but an art would be far better at this point in time. It is after all a radio call, Not a item loaded on your mech. Coolshot, is loaded on your mech, but nothing wrong with rules saying.. OK you used two coolshots, you now cant access the others.

Really - nice... it was still 60 when I was on last last night 40 better

[chucklesMuch]

Dethsphere, on 03 March 2017 - 03:11 PM, said:

A lot of us have cdills to blow. I will most likely use both cool shots, artys, and uavs every round.

Is true... and a lot of us that dont :/ if I had crazy amounts of cbills then i would happily use 3,4,5,6 of them per match... I currently use 2 in most QP matches. They offer quite an advantage... so the cbill rich and mc paying players get noticeable advantage... I will need to choose between more grind/cbill tax and effectiveness... DO NOT LIKE!

[chucklesMuch]

JC Daxion, on 03 March 2017 - 03:23 PM, said:

Cant you do that right now, just load up 2 coolshots? I don't see any difference on that aspect


also PTS consumables are back to 40k..


AND,, i really think they should allow you to load up 6 or even 8.. I personally have no issue with 8, but limit the use to 2 or 3 per match.. they are all situational, and i personally like the idea that i can choose on of 4 options at any time. (i also don't think you should have to unlock additional slots, though not an issue with upgrades on them with points)

I want to think about the situtation and decide, Not be dictated that i loaded up a airstrike, but an art would be far better at this point in time. It is after all a radio call, Not a item loaded on your mech. Coolshot, is loaded on your mech, but nothing wrong with rules saying.. OK you used two coolshots, you now cant access the others.

But you can't double up on the same ones currently? So you can have a cool shot 6 and cool shot 9, the PTS (last night) was 2xcoolshot 18 & (2xart, 2xUAV)

And I'm not against more consumables - not at all... I'm against wealthy (in cbill or mc) players having an advantage over poorer players. Hence why I have been against 60K per consumble... not sure that 40K is sweet spot either. But at least I wont be taxed more for doing the same as I am currently.

[Mystere]

1Grimbane, on 03 March 2017 - 03:17 PM, said:

Coming soon to a battle near you

And that would be glorious!

[Mole]

Air strikes and arty strikes are such garbage now anyway there's hardly any point to dropping them unless your target is already critical. If I still have my armor I can stand in the middle of several strikes and not feel much.

[Bilbo]

Mole, on 03 March 2017 - 04:31 PM, said:

Air strikes and arty strikes are such garbage now anyway there's hardly any point to dropping them unless your target is already critical. If I still have my armor I can stand in the middle of several strikes and not feel much.

They still seem to get a soul off a ridge long enough to move through a little open terrain even if they don't headshot the poor ******** anymore.

[Alistair Winter]

Spending 360,000 C-bills on Consumables per match seems reasonable.

[JC Daxion]

chucklesMuch, on 03 March 2017 - 03:28 PM, said:

In PTS you can have 6 consumables... 2xcool 2xstrikes 2xUAV ...60K each... so 360K in a match, if you want... or mc

Having 3 is easy to unlock... 6 a bit crazy... but having 4 is not unlikely... with boosts to strikes you can unlock... BOOM!!!



Really - nice... it was still 60 when I was on last last night 40 better

Um my point about just Unlocking all 8 would mean, You would have all 4 consumables at the start of the match, and able to use any of the 4.. Then you have two uses per match where you get to pick one of the 4. So you could use 2 coolants, or 2 UAV's, or an airstirke and an art strike, Or a coolant and UAV or what ever..

I'm not totally against a UNLOCK USE slot, meaning you could use 3 consumables in a match, as long as it was a huge sink in points to get it. maybe 15 nodes? what ever the highest number of points for that tree to unlock it,.. that is what it should be. But at that point you would already have maxed out every consumable in the pack, so maybe you should be able to use 3 of them as you are burning a lotta points to do it.


But yea, i built some mechs today on test, and it was back to 40k. I dunno maybe it was a numbers error with all the other updates.. Maybe they saw people really did not like it and rolled it back. either way it's 40k again

Edited by JC Daxion, 03 March 2017 - 04:47 PM.

[chucklesMuch]

JC Daxion, on 03 March 2017 - 04:46 PM, said:

Um my point about just Unlocking all 8 would mean, You would have all 4 consumables at the start of the match, and able to use any of the 4.. Then you have two uses per match where you get to pick one of the 4. So you could use 2 coolants, or 2 UAV's, or an airstirke and an art strike, Or a coolant and UAV or what ever..

I'm not totally against a UNLOCK USE slot, meaning you could use 3 consumables in a match, as long as it was a huge sink in points to get it. maybe 15 nodes? what ever the highest number of points for that tree to unlock it,.. that is what it should be. But at that point you would already have maxed out every consumable in the pack, so maybe you should be able to use 3 of them as you are burning a lotta points to do it.


But yea, i built some mechs today on test, and it was back to 40k. I dunno maybe it was a numbers error with all the other updates.. Maybe they saw people really did not like it and rolled it back. either way it's 40k again

Ah right. So you would have more choice/variety on offer but still just the two uses. I like that better than people being able to use up to six. (Unless costs come down further and it becomes a legitimate choice for everyone)

Edited by chucklesMuch, 03 March 2017 - 09:25 PM.

[Mcgral18]

JC Daxion, on 03 March 2017 - 03:23 PM, said:

Cant you do that right now, just load up 2 coolshots? I don't see any difference on that aspect

Not quite

Right now, it's at best an 18 and a 6, with a 20% boost to both
28.8 heat removal, no cooldown

But, PTS is a pair of Coolshot 18s, with a 50% boost (down from 100%)
That's 54 heat removal, about twice of current (down from 72, WOW)
But, that is with a ~10 second cooldown (with a half wait node, IIRC)

[El Bandito]

Looks like PGI's trying its hardest to entice us to spend all the excess C-Bills that will be refunded for modules, never mind how much it will encourage snowballing.