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[Old Fart 61]

Hey All

I like to get High and be a pain in the ***...

Im looking for a Clan mech Heavy or Med. Hope it can run 90 + KPH ( All tho I don't think I can get a Med ) to be used for sniping.

What I want it to have is 2 ERPPC mounted High on torso. 4 SPL or SRM mounts for arms, JJs, ECM, and hopefully the Quirks for energy to go with it.

Any Ideas or Suggestions? Champion or Hero is also OK

Thanks M8s

Edited by Old Fart 61, 09 March 2017 - 09:01 PM.

[Nightbird]

Summoner has JJ and but no ECM, Hellbringer has ECM and no JJs. Both have high torso mounts and can take backup weapons. Summoner has energy quirks, Hellbringer doesn't. Both run 87.

[Robaxacet]

How about a Shadowcat? ECM and Jump Jets.

[TercieI]

Honestly, backup weapons on a PPC mech just make you mediocre at everything. HBK-IIC-A, SMN with loyalty pods, LBK-Pr all run dual PPC well. Just embrace it and work on positioning well. TBR with gauss and 2PPC is another solid option.

[Jingseng]

i like the lbk, but no jj... there's a timber wolf var with jj and the ability to high mount energy in the shoulder... it's not that fast though.

[Old-dirty B]

Try a dual erppc Viper-B, that will you learn you all about proper positioning and heat management.

If you need one, here's the one that learned me to pay attention the hard way: VPR-B

[Hank Wildcarde]

How about the Huntsman Prime? I ran mine with 2ERLL in the side torso (high) and 4SPLs in the arms and I loved it. You could replace the ERLLs with ERPPCs and you have most of your wish list

Yes:
2 ERPPCs High Mount (and on same side)
4SPLs Arms
JJs
87.1 KPH

Bonus:
Only one set of Omnipods needed (also you get set-of-eight quirks but only until Skill Tree is implemented)

No:
ECM


It will be hot so you need to be using ERPPCs or SPLs but not both!

[Tilakkam]

I think about shadowcat coz jumps+ecm combo. Or you can drop tonnage and use mistlynx and cheetah, they have ecm+jumps and can mount ppc too.

[Michal R]

I assume he must clean your house, cook etc.?
Concert of wishes.

[TercieI]

B3R3ND, on 10 March 2017 - 02:39 AM, said:

Try a dual erppc Viper-B, that will you learn you all about proper positioning and heat management.

If you need one, here's the one that learned me to pay attention the hard way: VPR-B

That's a terrible build and pretty silly for a new player. A dual PPC SHC is a much better idea and I'm dubious about it for a new player.

[Amatsukaze]

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As in most things in life choosing the right mech is about compromise.

I think the Shadowcat is an awesome sniper mech.

[Old-dirty B]

TercieI, on 10 March 2017 - 04:52 AM, said:

That's a terrible build and pretty silly for a new player. A dual PPC SHC is a much better idea and I'm dubious about it for a new player.

for new players - i dont know... really, perhaps it is an effective learning tool. New players and "sniper" builds tend to result into someone hanging in the back, standing on top of a building or hill much like the lurm boats and just minding shooting. Advanced zoom engaged and hardly any movement while at the same time some one is pecking away on their back armor / rear CT.

This build will teach you the importance of positioning, situational awareness, heat management, spreading damage and evasive manoeuvres - it doesnt cover up or masks any of your mistakes, it will ask all of your attention and sooner or later you will learn.

I ran this build when the viper was just released, first as a troll build but soon as my trainer mech for sniping but above all to force myself into paying attention to "everything" not only shooting - just to stay alive and be somehow effective. The experience gained and the skills improved by this helped me immensely when i moved to the locust afterwards

Anyway, the build certainly won't let you carry a game, but you dont have to be a dead weight either:
VIPER VPR-B | 187 | 96 | 89 | 1.08 | 93 | 93 | 1.00 | 68,163 | 175,206 | 23:52:09

Edited by B3R3ND, 10 March 2017 - 06:38 AM.

[Roughneck45]

ADR
HBKIIC>SHC=HMN
SMN>LBK
TBR if you add a gauss to it.

I'g go with a SHC. Its going to be the hottest of those I listed but its got the speed, ECM, and JJ's.

Leave the small lasers at home too, they are only going to give you heat problems.

Edited by Roughneck45, 10 March 2017 - 06:36 AM.

[TercieI]

SHC yo.

This post no longer needed, have a pleasant morning.

Edited by TercieI, 10 March 2017 - 06:39 AM.

[Roughneck45]

TercieI, on 10 March 2017 - 06:36 AM, said:

So, you mean SHC?

... I think i need to finish this coffee...

Edited by Roughneck45, 10 March 2017 - 06:37 AM.

[TercieI]

B3R3ND, on 10 March 2017 - 06:24 AM, said:

Anyway, the build certainly won't let you carry a game, but you dont have to be a dead weight either:
VIPER VPR-B | 187 | 96 | 89 | 1.08 | 93 | 93 | 1.00 | 68,163 | 175,206 | 23:52:09

Your KDR is 2.44 overall in the current season and you're trying to sell a mech you have a KDR of 1.0 in. It's a major hindrance on your performance and you want to hand it to a new player?

Roughneck45, on 10 March 2017 - 06:37 AM, said:

... I think i need to finish this coffee...

I just finished mine. Splash of bourbon and away...we...go...

[Old-dirty B]

TercieI, on 10 March 2017 - 06:38 AM, said:

Your KDR is 2.44 overall in the current season and you're trying to sell a mech you have a KDR of 1.0 in. It's a major hindrance on your performance and you want to hand it to a new player?

Well, yes i guess i do

My current KDR is mostly derived from piloting the locust. It hasn't been that high until i started piloting the locust after i moved away from the Viper. I guess you can say that my current KDR is the result of my experience with this "suicide" mech. It helped me greatly to develop those skills needed to do well on a higher level with a very mobile but fragile mech.

It might hamper your performance but it forces you to learn important stuff and not just shooting, i think thats more important for new players then doing well.

Anyway, i believe the hard way is more beneficial in the end then any other way.. thats how i learn - maybe that works for others as well?

Edited by B3R3ND, 10 March 2017 - 06:54 AM.

[TercieI]

B3R3ND, on 10 March 2017 - 06:53 AM, said:

Well, yes i guess i do

My current KDR is mostly derived from piloting the locust. It hasn't been that high until i started piloting the locust after i moved away from the Viper. I guess you can say that my current KDR is the result of my experience with this "suicide" mech. It helped me greatly to develop those skills needed to do well on a higher level with a very mobile but fragile mech.

It might hamper your performance but it forces you to learn important stuff and not just shooting, i think thats more important for new players then doing well.

Anyway, i believe the hard way is more beneficial in the end then any other way.. thats how i learn - maybe that works for others as well?

I've heard that theory. I started with it in COMs. It mostly left me dead and learning little. I wouldn't recommend it for a brand new player at all. I see it more as a second or third step when you have a bit more experience now. I think the SHC is a nice balance of strengths and weaknesses here, where that Viper is just weaknesses.

[Old-dirty B]

Im not aware of the actual skill level of the OP, but i agree the SHC dual erppc sniper build is a less extreme example and a more accessible learning tool, if you dont like torture like i do

Anyway, my suggestion would be not to use the ECM on the SHC if you want to learn... the ECM gives too much advantage because the people you play with when you start out only see the red boxes... at those levels it makes you near invisible and doesnt teach you about stealth and positioning.

[Roughneck45]

B3R3ND, on 10 March 2017 - 07:19 AM, said:

Anyway, my suggestion would be not to use the ECM on the SHC if you want to learn... the ECM gives too much advantage because the people you play with when you start out only see the red boxes... at those levels it makes you near invisible and doesnt teach you about stealth and positioning.

Man... that's what makes it so good! lol