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[Elizander]

deadeye mcduck, on 21 July 2012 - 12:29 AM, said:

No thanks, dont want WOT randoms here. They will take a Jenner, thinks its a scout tank and go run off, spot enemy mechs and then proceed to die.

Oh, I did try WoT for awhile and I remember this happening a lot in pub games... like all the light tanks would be dead before the first two minutes were up. One of them said they were going for some medal or something.

I don't think the game is terrible. It did succeed in the F2P market. I'm just not that big of a WW / tank fan to grind my way past Tier 3.

[CT Tarantula NL]

GreenNonic, on 21 July 2012 - 12:59 AM, said:

not sure i want the morons from WoT to flood this game, look how stupid they make WoT leave them all over there

Yeah and u are god? rather hope players like yourself stop playing ANY game in the MMO scene, just becoz a player might not do everything right the first time, doesnt mean he/she sux at every game they try, and tbh, wot learns u a lot more than any single player game, mw related or not. Ofc the MW and BT fans do know what to do with each weapon, but in the end, we all hav to see before we mk our conclusions about other game players!

Just my 2 cents

[Sadnebula]

Slaughterama, on 20 July 2012 - 08:13 PM, said:

I just started a new poll on the WoT forums about what people are going to do when this game launches. Please pop over and vote. Let's get MWO some more exposure!!!

was a pretty good post about leaving wot players in wot. but what the hell, bring em on.
hopefully the good will contribute and the bad will learn to not act like total jerks all the time.
New game, fresh start, let's do it.

Edited by Sadnebula, 21 July 2012 - 06:58 AM.

[Gendo]

Elizander, on 21 July 2012 - 04:38 AM, said:

Oh, I did try WoT for awhile and I remember this happening a lot in pub games... like all the light tanks would be dead before the first two minutes were up. One of them said they were going for some medal or something.

like it will be if you charge the enemy main force with a jenner. we will have the same here...
there are ALWAYS people who have no idea wich role their hardware will fit on the battlefield. some learn it the hard way and get better, some prefer not to but that the hardware itselfe is useless/imballanced. like the wot scouts. most people ignore the basic scout rule: DONT SHOOT and give you position away! get a nice foreward bush to hide and stay invisible! you get 50% ep/cash for EVERY hit on a target spotted by you (first ) in that moment with ZERO ammo costs.

the "runners" have a realy short life expectation. like a friend of mine (ex-rl tank gunner) saied "there is NO way to dodge a correctly aimed shot in a tank!"

the standart batte is only for fun/grinding - the serious play takes place on the world-domination-map. if one makes stupid things THERE he finds himself back in the bootcamp realy soon!

and dont forget that wot is only 1/3 of the final product. if finished it will include world of warplanes and world of battleships...

edit: shouldnt this thead be in "off-topic" ?

Edited by Gendo, 21 July 2012 - 07:23 AM.

[tvih]

I played over 8k matches in WoT. But in the last six months I've barely touched it. I just got fed up with WG and their multifails.

Hopefully, MWO will steer clear of such multifails.

[Zentraedi57]

I'm afraid your concerns will be true. Once Open beta starts your gonna get all kinds of lousy annoying players coming in and making general chaos of the game. It happened in WOT. Before it went public the quality of the player was alot higher and people were alot nicer. Once Open Beta/Retail starts the gloves are off.

[Kolja]

WoTs is an awesome game that is a lot of fun. Sure there are some crappy players at lower levels but you will see that same thing in MWO, I am sure. I honestly hope MWO borrows a lot of the concepts that work well in WoTs (they already borrowed the spotting for teammates thing - they call it role warfare in MWO). I want MWO to be as successful and addictive as WoT. Really, just because it is base on mechs doesn't mean it'll be fun to play - it needs good game mechanics as well.

[Rab357]

Argann, on 20 July 2012 - 08:26 PM, said:

Honestly, I don't want WoT players, they are all kids.

Argann, on 20 July 2012 - 08:26 PM, said:

Honestly, I don't want WoT players, they are all kids.

Haha and your proof is where exactly? Remember, a lot of adults act like children when they play games. WoT skews older, but yes, of course there are your standard compliment of kids tagging along.

And, erm, MWO will also have kids too...just sayin'...

[Bhaalspawn]

I always love these trolls.

On the WoT side:

Players are used to a PUG game with 14 random people who do whatever they want, the only way to win is to do it yourself. Therefore you have to learn everything about the game, whether you want to or not. If some one just sits there shooting team mates and swearing in whatever language, who cares, it still doesn't stop you from going for it. The MM may be dreadful but you give it a go.

On the MWO side:

Players may or may not have seen a computer before and only heard about this because they were sent a telegram. They would rather argue about a rule that appeared in a box set sometime before tanks were even invented then think about making a modern computer game. They treat anyone who hasn't heard of Mech Warrior or Battle Tech (please type that instead of BT as most people think they sell telephones) as outsiders.

They believe tactics will work in random battles. loooool

One thing you learn in Wot is how to play. You may play badly (as I do) but you learn.

back to topic:

Who do you think is gonna play this game? To get enough money coming in to keep it going you're gonna want to get every ***** with cash from evey game out there. You think WoT palyers are bad? Wait until the mommy's credit card people from WoW give it a try or the people from Fiesta who wont talk to anyone if they aren't cs users!

but look on the bright side, unless your some kind of arty any game can be won by an individual and if everyone on your team and everyone on the other team are idiots, there is no reason you shouldn't win every battle on your own.

after trying to edit: lol idiots will show but take the s off and it wont

Edited by Bhaalspawn, 21 July 2012 - 10:13 AM.

[Sidra]

Lol going back on that forum post, it seems to me for some reason half the WoT comminty says they have been in MWO's beta. Like really? Do they think anyone actually believes that crap XD

[empath]

Argann, on 20 July 2012 - 08:26 PM, said:

Honestly, I don't want WoT players, they are all kids.

Now, now - just remember: "All generalizations are false",... you Mainlander, you!

I'm pushing 40 from the wrong side, and I was in the closed beta since Nov/2010, and gave up on it soon after the update that brought the T-50 and whatnot. *shrug*

...also, I dunno about any of those "#YouPeople", but *I'm* already here and have been for over eight months now.

Getting back on topic, I see enough similarity between the two games to see a fair amount of player migration, and even so, I'm not holding much expectations for any quality of players (be it poor or good), but I'm just content to see another BattleTech game coming out that I'll be able to afford.

[IronGoat]

Argann, on 20 July 2012 - 08:26 PM, said:

Honestly, I don't want WoT players, they are all kids.

really? well we arent all kids. you really shouldnt generalize that much.
it shows a lack of.. oh whats the word. MATURITY...

Sidra, on 20 July 2012 - 09:31 PM, said:

xD oh look another person in the WoT post who says he played it's beta XD man these guys are like flies to lies

um OPEN beta went on for quite awhile in wot there or 10s of thousands of open beta players out there and thousands of closed beta players
they (we) arent all liers..

[Sidra]

IronGoat, on 21 July 2012 - 02:05 PM, said:

really? well we arent all kids. you really shouldnt generalize that much.
it shows a lack of.. oh whats the word. MATURITY...



um OPEN beta went on for quite awhile in wot there or 10s of thousands of open beta players out there and thousands of closed beta players
they (we) arent all liers..

Yo, I'm talking about them saying they were in MWO's beta now WOT XD

[LordKnightFandragon]

My official verdict is I have all but quit WoT at this point....Only havent sold my tanks cuz I spent all that time getting them and it would suck to lose them, but yeah, with the advent of OP as hell T10 MTs and TDs and the invaildation of HTs and the M103 being a butterball of useless along side the absolute, undeniable 100% incompetency of (ill be nice) 97% of the WoT players...I just cannot play that game anymore....

I hope MWO doesnt attaract to many of the 300 efficiency 40% win rate jack *****....if the playerbase in MWO goes that direction, my stay here will be very short....

[Comguard]

Hm, maybe they mixed it up with MW:LL? Took a look at the thread, really seems like there are some people who say they are in the beta. But don't sound like they are founders.

Anyway, I don't care. There will be the powergamers who will play this game 6 hours per day, those who just jump in for 60minutes max and the people who just want to try it out. The game is supposed to be fun, this thread takes the fun away before it has even started. Give other people a chance to enjoy the game.

[Slaughterama]

Comguard, on 21 July 2012 - 02:14 PM, said:

. The game is supposed to be fun, this thread takes the fun away before it has even started. Give other people a chance to enjoy the game.

This post was not intended to take the fun away from anyone. If you read the original post it was intended to get some existing WoT players to head to the WoT forums and vote in a poll I created to get MW:O online some free exposure.

I'm not sure why people started posting anti-kid, anti-WoT rants. I'm 34 and a WoT player but I welcome anyone who will support this game. Bring on the jerks and immature kids they will be cannon fodder for us serious, organized adults playing on comms.

[stealthed]

I think mechwarrior won't be as bad as WoT gets. Shure there will be clueless ppl, but complete and utter idiots would have absolutely no chance here. why? First you have to watch a lot more parametres then the aim circle, your ammo choice and the tank you're shooting. Secondly since this game isn't glued together with random number generaters skill is the deciding factor more then luck.

example:
in world of tanks you can theoratically reach tier 8 just by simply auto-aiming at the tanks. shure it may not be as effecient, but due to the rng the shell will most of the time end up all over the front of the targeted tank. This will not be possible in mechwarrior, you hit, you hit, you miss you miss. No rng bullcrap at damage or penetration, everything is predefined. So you cant trust in getting that lucky shot ammo racking the tank, you cant trust in your tracks absorbing rounds, you cant trust your enemy gets bad rolls. This will at least filter out the total retards.
The kids will be filtered because the game is either to slow, or not dumbed down enough for them to understand it in their limited attantion spans (ofc there will be exceptions, but these are good players anyways).
So this will leave only:
elitists
angry teenagers
and noobs (not newbs) as potential problem.

The above we can mange with a good community, the noob will proly run expensive bills so he won't be able to afford anything importand.

Where will I be? I aim for the avarge skill level

edit: anyone telling me WoT is a hard game to play will be laughed at

Edited by stealthed, 21 July 2012 - 02:39 PM.

[Kolja]

Whatever, you have little idea.
First, clueless people can get into an Atlas just as easily as a tier VIII WoT tank.
Secondly, to be played well WoT requires a lot of patience. MWO looks like it will be a lot faster/twitchy with shorter sight lines.

So from what you say MWO will have just as many kids and clueless people as WoT. In fact, I find that most players that run Tier 7 and higher tanks in WoT are decent.

Gack, this elitist crap is irritating. You are all talking about a fast moving game with giant robots. Stop acting like it is some elite uber thing and that you have to be an elite human being to play it. It's fantasy.

I'm looking forward to MWO and I hope it does as well as WoT. And I hope it is as fun.

[Sidra]

Kolja, on 21 July 2012 - 02:55 PM, said:

Whatever, you have little idea.
First, clueless people can get into an Atlas just as easily as a tier VIII WoT tank.
Secondly, to be played well WoT requires a lot of patience. MWO looks like it will be a lot faster/twitchy with shorter sight lines.

So from what you say MWO will have just as many kids and clueless people as WoT. In fact, I find that most players that run Tier 7 and higher tanks in WoT are decent.

Gack, this elitist crap is irritating. You are all talking about a fast moving game with giant robots. Stop acting like it is some elite uber thing and that you have to be an elite human being to play it. It's fantasy.

I'm looking forward to MWO and I hope it does as well as WoT. And I hope it is as fun.

Seeing as WoT is pay to win, I hope MWO does BETTER than it, and much more fun XD

[Bloody Moon]

LordKnightFandragon, on 21 July 2012 - 02:07 PM, said:

My official verdict is I have all but quit WoT at this point....Only havent sold my tanks cuz I spent all that time getting them and it would suck to lose them, but yeah, with the advent of OP as hell T10 MTs and TDs and the invaildation of HTs and the M103 being a butterball of useless along side the absolute, undeniable 100% incompetency of (ill be nice) 97% of the WoT players...I just cannot play that game anymore....

I hope MWO doesnt attaract to many of the 300 efficiency 40% win rate jack *****....if the playerbase in MWO goes that direction, my stay here will be very short....

Well, i have some terrible news for you, bad players were and will be in every multiplayer game.
By the way if we'd chase away all the bad players two things would surely happen:

1. Since you labeled 97% of the playerbase bad if we take them away the game would barely support itself so it would probably be shut down or simply the development would be kept to a minimum.
2. The standards would rise to the point where only the elite of the competitive would be considered OK. Anyone below them is trash. You'd like that?

The solution to your problem is not chasing away players, it is a skill-based matchmaker: good players play with good players, bad ones with others like them.