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[Lupis Volk]

oldradagast, on 14 March 2017 - 05:36 AM, said:

Just to toss out some data on that, I also play World of Warships. While not perfect, I generally enjoy it more than MWO these days, and the developing company is more on the ball from what I've seen. Yes, yes, their forums are also full of salt - what forum isn't? - but the truth is in the fun game play and solid player numbers, which are far higher than anything MWO has had in years, if ever.

Wargaming regularly sends emails to its customers with survey questions asking detailed thoughts about the game, allowing us to rate things and provide open-ended feedback. While the number of these surveys has declined in recent months, I guess because the game is further along in the design cycle, they recently added a feature where after a random match, the game will ask you a simple question "how satisfied were you with this match?" and you can rate the match you just played.

It's a bit unfair to mention War gaming in the same sentence with PGI. At least WG fixes their messes eight out of ten times and listens to the community when a dumpster fire is about to be lit unlike PGI who needs that fire to be roaring for a day straight.

Edited by Lupis Volk, 14 March 2017 - 01:00 PM.

[Alistair Winter]

I have no idea why people still keep making the strawman argument about multiple threads saying the same thing, but have at it, I guess.

[Kuaron]

Tarogato, on 14 March 2017 - 04:37 AM, said:

It doesn't take hundreds of people to post the same feedback. It only takes a few, and once other people read and agree with that feedback, they have nothing more to add other than upvote/like/share/agree.

But when PGI actually takes action, all of those people who silently agreed with the feedback are now discontent that the feedback was not listened to. This is why it seems like there are more people/energy than before.

QuePan, on 14 March 2017 - 12:55 PM, said:

i can only speak for myself , but i took time to look at both PTS for the skill tree and posted either in agreement to what someone else posted , or put in additional information to said post . We don't need 15 separate threads on a single issue if someone started a thread for that concern .

This is the correct way to contribute while not flooding the forum with duplicates of similar threads (which happened anyway), but I’m not sure if it is fair to assume for the formerly silent majority. There weren’t that many likes even in the more long-living threads on PTS forum, by many it was just ignored, and on the other hand, from many people posting there I had the impression they didn’t read other people’s threads. Particularly the authors of the mentioned duplicates, ofc.

[Bud Crue]

Kuaron, on 17 March 2017 - 04:18 AM, said:

This is the correct way to contribute while not flooding the forum with duplicates of similar threads (which happened anyway), but I’m not sure if it is fair to assume for the formerly silent majority. There weren’t that many likes even in the more long-living threads on PTS forum, by many it was just ignored, and on the other hand, from many people posting there I had the impression they didn’t read other people’s threads. Particularly the authors of the mentioned duplicates, ofc.

As a matter of academic discussion, yes a single post with a well articulated position may be sufficient to make a point of criticism or support of a concept, whereupon others can like or ignore that post rather than repeating the same idea over and over. Very civilized, very efficient.

But if the post and poster is not just interested in an academic discussion, but has an agenda; then no. In that circumstance a mere like is not particularly productive in advancing the agenda. A guy standing on a street corner yelling about some issue of the day is a impotent to make change, even if every passerby says "I agree". Ten thousand people yelling the same thing over and over, however loud, disruptive and annoying, gets attention; and is in fact likely representative of an even larger movement. And thus it might behoove the powers that be to listen. Repetition no matter how tedious has power to advance an agenda.

Anyone with kids knows the power of repetition.

Edited by Bud Crue, 17 March 2017 - 04:51 AM.