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Next Meck Pack Poll Discussion! Updated Choices And Dev Comments! Escalation Mechs Removed!


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#1781 Will9761

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Posted 04 April 2018 - 01:56 PM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 04 April 2018 - 01:51 PM, said:


Now that they have broken from my poll guide, this would be great!!

Are you still going to remove Announced Mechs off your poll, since we have the Flea and Hellfire now? People are still voting as if they haven't been announced it yet.Posted Image

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Posted 04 April 2018 - 02:00 PM

I would drop the howler personally, and their more options in the 65 and 80 ton category that be awesome to add. And I would love to see the art, but I'll be waiting on the day for the Incubus to finally be added and when it do I will name it DIO.

Edited by Battlemaster56, 04 April 2018 - 02:00 PM.


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Posted 04 April 2018 - 02:03 PM

View PostWill9761, on 04 April 2018 - 01:31 PM, said:

If PGI is going to continue to add Clan Mechs to fill in the tonnage gap, these would be some ok choices:

20 tons
Fire Moth (Dasher) - Clan OmniMech with MASC (216 kph/w MASC)
Howler (Baboon) - Clan BattleMech with a MASC variant [Howler 2] (130 kph/w MASC)

25 tons
Fire Falcon -Clan OmniMech
Locust IIC - Clan BattleMech
Icestorm - Clan BattleMech
Commando IIC - Clan BattleMech

65 tons
Rifleman IIC - Clan BattleMech

80 tons
Canis - Clan BattleMech
Warhammer IIC - Clan BattleMech

95 tons
Turkina - Clan OmniMech. Added to keep the Executioner (Gladiator) company, I guess.


20 tons
Fire Moth (Dasher) - Not happening as it is way to fast for the game engine (not to mention small size
Howler (Baboon) - Only would be good for SRM splat runs and the 2 versions don't really offer anything different, 3 Missile and 4 missile hardpoints

25 tons
Fire Falcon -Clan OmniMech (Decent if done right, but is much like a lighter Jenner IIC)
Locust IIC - Clan BattleMech (Have to wait till after the HG suite is fully settled as HG did claim the Locust in their suite, unless they removed it in their admendment)
Icestorm - Clan BattleMech (Another extremely fast mech)
Commando IIC - Clan BattleMech this could be good.

65 tons
Rifleman IIC - Clan BattleMech (Not Happening till after the HG lawsuit is settled)

80 tons
Canis - Clan BattleMech the only 80 Clan assault likely to happen.
Warhammer IIC - Clan BattleMech (Not Happening till after the HG Lawsuit is settled)

95 tons
Turkina - Clan OmniMech. (So many times this has been requested but not done)

#1784 Jackal Noble

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Posted 04 April 2018 - 02:16 PM

Solitaire/Incubus/Hellion

Vapor Eagle

Arcas

Bane

#1785 TheArisen

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Posted 04 April 2018 - 02:16 PM

View PostTheArisen, on 17 February 2018 - 09:34 PM, said:

Hey Gas when you have time here are a few mechs that it'd be cool if they were added to the poll assuming there is room.
IS Light
- Spector, I know you've heard of this one. Hopefully it's rounded shape would bless it with the scale gods +ECM 35 tonner that's not a hero.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Spector
- Cossack, Since the Stinger/Wasp are in HG trouble this could be an ok JJ 20 tonner
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Cossack
- Red Shift, faster than a Locust and would be a 20t ecm mech for cbills.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Red_Shift

IS Med
- Raijin, mix of energy & missiles with high mounts plus JJ & ECM variant
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Raijin
- Stealth, 45t with MASC, JJ & ECM variant
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Stealth
- Bloodhound, 45t, super fast with missiles & energy
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Bloodhound
- Wraith, Lightray (385xl stock) but with JJ
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Wraith

IS Heavies
- Lancelot, arguably the 60 tonner with the most potential in MWO that hasn't been added.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Lancelot
- Excaliber, Unique blend of missile and ballistic at 70t plus it's super fast
http://www.sarna.net...ur_(BattleMech)


IS Assaults
- Black Watch, unique blend of ballistics & missiles at 85t plus JJs. Also high mounts
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Black_Watch
- Crockett/Katana, JJ 85 tonner, similar to a Misery in HPs.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Crockett
- Thug, it is a popular mech but it'd need serious HP inflation to be viable.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Thug
- Warlord, 80t Battlemaster with ecm variant. (Technically it's intro'd in 3070 but it has no new tech)
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Warlord
- Emperor, Good hardpoints & JJ
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Emperor


I might make a Clan list but that's what I've got for now.


Figured I'd repost this if you're feeling like filling out the poll with more options.

#1786 TheArisen

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Posted 04 April 2018 - 05:38 PM

View PostTheArisen, on 17 February 2018 - 09:34 PM, said:

Hey Gas when you have time here are a few mechs that it'd be cool if they were added to the poll assuming there is room.
IS Light
- Spector, I know you've heard of this one. Hopefully it's rounded shape would bless it with the scale gods +ECM 35 tonner that's not a hero.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Spector
- Cossack, Since the Stinger/Wasp are in HG trouble this could be an ok JJ 20 tonner
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Cossack
- Red Shift, faster than a Locust and would be a 20t ecm mech for cbills.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Red_Shift

IS Med
- Raijin, mix of energy & missiles with high mounts plus JJ & ECM variant
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Raijin
- Stealth, 45t with MASC, JJ & ECM variant
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Stealth
- Bloodhound, 45t, super fast with missiles & energy
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Bloodhound
- Wraith, Lightray (385xl stock) but with JJ
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Wraith

IS Heavies
- Lancelot, arguably the 60 tonner with the most potential in MWO that hasn't been added.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Lancelot
- Excaliber, Unique blend of missile and ballistic at 70t plus it's super fast
http://www.sarna.net...ur_(BattleMech)


IS Assaults
- Black Watch, unique blend of ballistics & missiles at 85t plus JJs. Also high mounts
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Black_Watch
- Crockett/Katana, JJ 85 tonner, similar to a Misery in HPs.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Crockett
- Thug, it is a popular mech but it'd need serious HP inflation to be viable.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Thug
- Warlord, 80t Battlemaster with ecm variant. (Technically it's intro'd in 3070 but it has no new tech)
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Warlord
- Emperor, Good hardpoints & JJ
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Emperor


I might make a Clan list but that's what I've got for now.

Some additions but of course I know space is an issue.

IS light
Koto

IS Med
Sentry

IS Assault
Sasquatch

Clan Light
Bear Cub

Clan Assault
Scylla
Canis

#1787 Requiemking

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Posted 04 April 2018 - 10:38 PM

View PostShadowomega1, on 04 April 2018 - 02:03 PM, said:

20 tons
Howler (Baboon) - Only would be good for SRM splat runs and the 2 versions don't really offer anything different, 3 Missile and 4 missile hardpoints

Correction. There are three variants of the Howler. The TZ-1 Devil was retconned to be a variant of the Howler. Not only that, but the Howler 3 is a PPC sniper.

#1788 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 05 April 2018 - 08:46 AM

View PostWill9761, on 04 April 2018 - 01:56 PM, said:

Are you still going to remove Announced Mechs off your poll, since we have the Flea and Hellfire now? People are still voting as if they haven't been announced it yet.Posted Image


Ughhhh i swear upkeeping this poll is full time job!

Removed Flea and Hellfire

#1789 Will9761

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Posted 05 April 2018 - 12:15 PM

Thanks, Gas.

#1790 TheArisen

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Posted 05 April 2018 - 02:29 PM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 05 April 2018 - 08:46 AM, said:


Ughhhh i swear upkeeping this poll is full time job!

Removed Flea and Hellfire


Is there a way for maybe the admins to help?

#1791 Grus

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Posted 05 April 2018 - 03:58 PM

starts to chant* Stone Rhino..

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Posted 05 April 2018 - 04:30 PM

View PostGrus, on 05 April 2018 - 03:58 PM, said:

starts to chant* Stone Rhino..


Next one is likely to be a light or Medium for the clans. However, that will likely change if the Judge for the case HG has against PGI, awards PGI a summary Judgement, and dismisses the case with prejudice then we will see the rest of the Unseens and IIC. This is highly likely now as HG pretty much showed their just stalling on purpose and the PGI lawyers have filed against HG last action.

If that happens then what we will likely see for the clans would be:

Warhammer IIC
Phoenix Hawk IIC
Rifleman IIC
Glass Spider (5 Ton Lighter Rifleman IIC)
Shadow Hawk IIC
Incubus
Locust IIC (Due to HG claiming the Locust as theirs in the initial doc)

For IS:

Devastator
Marauder II
Longbow
Caeser
Valkyrie
Stinger
Wasp

Edited by Shadowomega1, 05 April 2018 - 04:30 PM.


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Posted 05 April 2018 - 04:42 PM

How are people not screaming from the streets and rooftops for a kraken?
How?

Correction

Vote Bane (Kraken)

Its %100 more awesome than the "stone rhino"
Psh

Edited by jacobbeach, 05 April 2018 - 05:55 PM.


#1794 TheArisen

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Posted 05 April 2018 - 05:04 PM

View Postjacobbeach, on 05 April 2018 - 04:42 PM, said:

How are people not screaming from the streets and rooftops for a kraken?
How?


Because there's already the Dwolf UV

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Posted 05 April 2018 - 07:11 PM

View Postjacobbeach, on 05 April 2018 - 04:42 PM, said:

How are people not screaming from the streets and rooftops for a kraken?
How?

The Stone Rhino has more things going for it over the Bane (Kraken). While both are considerably good mechs, the Stone Rhino has more nostalgia popularity and build variety. Most of the Bane variations are simply ballistic/missile boats while the Stone Rhino can be almost compared as the battlemech alternative to the Direwolf. There are more energy/missile/ballistic variations that PGI could choose from.

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Posted 05 April 2018 - 08:30 PM

View PostArnold The Governator, on 05 April 2018 - 07:11 PM, said:

The Stone Rhino has more things going for it over the Bane (Kraken). While both are considerably good mechs, the Stone Rhino has more nostalgia popularity and build variety. Most of the Bane variations are simply ballistic/missile boats while the Stone Rhino can be almost compared as the battlemech alternative to the Direwolf. There are more energy/missile/ballistic variations that PGI could choose from.


Hmmm after looking at the Stone Rhino again,(not to mention remembering a gif from Macross) I can see why it hasn't been touched it. It does have some similarities with the HWR-00 Monster from Macross but a single barrel instead. Something HG would jump on because it is remotely similar.

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Posted 06 April 2018 - 12:58 PM

If we're still adding 'mechs...

Canis please?

Adds a 2nd Clan 80 tonner, which happens to be a BattleMech, plus it ticks a few other boxes.

#1798 Will9761

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Posted 07 April 2018 - 08:02 PM

The Canis would be a good counterpart to the Gargoyle. Of course, I can see a CAN-1, CAN-A, and CAN-B for variants.

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 12:32 PM

Posted Image
Savage Coyote Variants:

Savage Coyote - Prime
Weapons and Equipment:
Head - ER Medium Laser
Center Torso - N/A
Right Torso - ATM 12
Left Torso - ATM 12
Right Arm - ER PPC, ER Medium Laser, 2xER Small Lasers
Left Arm - LB-10-X AC, ER Medium Laser

Engine: 225 STD = 54 KPH
Debuted: 3059

Savage Coyote - A
Weapons and Equipment:
Head - AMS
Center Torso - Medium Pulse Laser, Jump Jet
Right Torso - ATM 6, Jump Jet
Left Torso - ATM 6, Jump Jet
Right Arm - Gauss Rifle
Left Arm - ER Large Laser, 2x Medium Pulse Lasers, ATM 6

Engine: 225 STD = 54 KPH
Debuted: 3059


Savage Coyote - B
Weapons and Equipment:
Head - Small Pulse Laser
Center Torso - N/A
Right Torso - 2x ATM 3, Small Pulse Laser
Left Torso - 2x ATM 3
Right Arm - Large Pulse Laser, 2x ER Large Lasers
Left Arm - Ultra AC/5, 4x Small Pulse Laser

Engine: 225 STD = 54 KPH
Debuted: 3059


Savage Coyote - C
Weapons and Equipment:
Head - N/A
Center Torso - ER Medium Laser, Jump Jet
Right Torso - ATM 9,Jump Jet
Left Torso - ATM 9, ER PPC,Jump Jet
Right Arm - ER Large Laser, ER Medium Laser
Left Arm - ER Large Laser, ER Medium Laser

Engine: 225 STD = 54 KPH
Debuted: 3064

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 02:17 PM

View PostTheArisen, on 05 April 2018 - 05:04 PM, said:

Because there's already the Dwolf UV


Cept it would be able to mount a 360? also has 6 more ballistic points.





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