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[Wildstreak]

• This ain't politics.
  
• Non-politically, I would be more concerned for the kids, I know there are some that play, have heard a few over VOIP.
  
• Heard other sexual references like people comparing playing to actual sex. See #2.
  
• You've been lucky, last time I left, #1 reason was in game commentary and not limited to what you mention.
  
• Don't expect some of those reports to cause results.
  
• If someone says F*gg*t or Gay, remind them those words have another meaning just to goof on them.

Edited by Wildstreak, 20 March 2017 - 09:08 AM.

[C E Dwyer]

Vonbach, on 19 March 2017 - 06:17 PM, said:

Freedom of speech is a thing in the USA. We like it here.

Freedom of speech, in any country where it is exorcised, does not allow anyone to abuse the sensitives of others

https://en.wikipedia...ates#Exclusions

[Burke IV]

Wildstreak, on 20 March 2017 - 09:08 AM, said:

If someone says F*gg*t or Gay, remind them those words have another meaning just to goof on them.

Its true tho. Apparently im not allowed to enjoy a traditional meaty product anymore incase it offends somebody.

[LordNothing]

i always call out homophobia. i like to think that behind every homophobic comment is a closet case screaming to get out. its ok to be gay.

Edited by LordNothing, 20 March 2017 - 09:13 AM.

[Mystere]

rolly, on 20 March 2017 - 08:52 AM, said:

Hey now. Get it right. It was indoctrinated into us at an early age during our hockey training sibkos. Where we learned to ride moose (meese?) to fight off global warming from melting our National Igloo.

Please, don't make me think you're not really Canadian.

[R Valentine]

Cathy, on 20 March 2017 - 09:11 AM, said:

Freedom of speech, in any country where it is exorcised, does not allow anyone to abuse the sensitives of others

https://en.wikipedia...ates#Exclusions

"Abuse the sensitives" is not in the exceptions. The exceptions are inciting criminal behavior and obscenities, neither of which revolve around the feelings of others. Child porn is also under there. So no, try again. We'll say whatever we like in chat. If it bothers you, turn chat off. No one has any obligations what-so-ever to even consider your feelings, let alone capitulate to them.

[Felicitatem Parco]

MacClearly, on 19 March 2017 - 04:07 PM, said:

Racism is one thing, but to try and censor every little thing that people find offensive is ridiculous. If you are that sensitive maybe turn off voip and disable chat.

No, no, no... Disabling chat is very bad for team Communications. I would NEVER suggest anyone turn off team chat, and very very rarely recommend disabling All Chat.

This OP is not sensitive, just "reasonable." I also report everyone who acts racist, homophobic, etc. but don't disable chat. I am "sensitive" in the context of actively being disgusted by bigots, but I do not stick my head in the sand and pretend they don't exist. Reporting them is better than ignoring them.

[Jackal Noble]

GAY- I say that often after a terrible match where I'm usually the first to die and it usually happens rather quickly and horribly ; AS such, I am filled with a raptorous, gay joy at being able to quit the match and join another in however many long minutes it takes to find/get into/ load another match/ wait 70 seconds for that single person holding the other 23 of us that are ready.

Edited by JackalBeast, 20 March 2017 - 09:21 AM.

[Humpday]

Err honestly if you speak up and tell the other player to Shut the eff up, they'll stop.
Most people on the team, while they won't be offended specifically, understand what offensive language is and they will back you up and gang up on the unruly player.

Its one thing to curse, but use of derogatory language, specifically against your own team is ********. Now calling the LRM boat some bad words on the other team while he's LRMing you to death....see I'm ok with this.

SOMEONE KILL THAT F'N LRM BOAT G*D D@MM!T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Other than that quit being offended its 2017. Unless you're an entitled millennial whos parents raised you without a set of balls you should be immune to being offended. Would you like a participation trophy too?

See what i did there

[Burke IV]

Nobody cares about my cultural sensitivitys. We were innocent before they took our word....



Its just a perfectly wholesome food product. People got to be so childish.

[RestosIII]

Burke IV, on 20 March 2017 - 09:23 AM, said:

Nobody cares about my cultural sensitivitys. We were innocent before they took our word....

Spoiler

Its just a perfectly wholesome food product. People got to be so childish.

Unless you're using the word to refer to a bundle of sticks, then you make me sad.

[The Unstoppable Puggernaut]

Until you've been beaten up for it, had that abuse told to you daily or shouted at you in the streets, you wouldn't understand it.

It's not something you'd expect to see/hear when chilling out playing a game of mech.

While I can see people getting annoyed that people should be just muting/reporting and pipe down, I didn't actually think it even existed in this game purely because I haven't seen it myself in two years of playing this game.

I'd highly suggest people auto-recording games anyways. I do it for a different reason but if I do catch of the ******* blasting down the mic, they'll get what they deserve.

[MacClearly]

Prosperity Park, on 20 March 2017 - 09:18 AM, said:

No, no, no... Disabling chat is very bad for team Communications. I would NEVER suggest anyone turn off team chat, and very very rarely recommend disabling All Chat.

This OP is not sensitive, just "reasonable." I also report everyone who acts racist, homophobic, etc. but don't disable chat. I am "sensitive" in the context of actively being disgusted by bigots, but I do not stick my head in the sand and pretend they don't exist. Reporting them is better than ignoring them.

Yes, yes, yes. Racism sure. No one is going to tolerate that and PGI will react to that. Luckily that is rare.

However the whole safe space non binary conforming offended at everything crowd doesn't get to police everyone's language. Many things can be offensive to many people. Stuff like racism is one of those universally frowned upon things and hate speach makes it criminal where I am from and where the servers are. Saying something is gay or poking fun of identifying as a mechsasexual or something similar that pokes fun at the leftist extreme is just something that is a part of the community and society.

So people have to appreciate that when someone says that they are offended. The problem is with them and their choice to be offended. They can't expect the world to bow down to their needs and try to not offend them. MWO is not a safe space. So if it is a problem, again take the actions you need on your end to not be offended and disable chat and comms.

[Jables McBarty]

Humpday, on 20 March 2017 - 09:21 AM, said:

Err honestly if you speak up and tell the other player to Shut the eff up, they'll stop.

Um, yeah, because telling a self-righteous bigot on the internet to "shut the f*** up" actually doesn't make them even more of a self-righteous bigot?

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Most people on the team, while they won't be offended specifically, understand what offensive language is and they will back you up and gang up on the unruly player.

Sometimes. But I've had it go both ways, where you get three or four self-righteous bigots standing up for each other and throwing slurs at the one or two non-racists on the team.

[R Valentine]

The Unstoppable Puggernaut, on 20 March 2017 - 09:32 AM, said:

Until you've been beaten up for it, had that abuse told to you daily or shouted at you in the streets, you wouldn't understand it.

It's not something you'd expect to see/hear when chilling out playing a game of mech.

While I can see people getting annoyed that people should be just muting/reporting and pipe down, I didn't actually think it even existed in this game purely because I haven't seen it myself in two years of playing this game.

I'd highly suggest people auto-recording games anyways. I do it for a different reason but if I do catch of the ******* blasting down the mic, they'll get what they deserve.

Another lame brain, fallacy. "You are incapable of empathy because my experiences are special." No, they are in fact not. You have no idea at all what I am capable of understanding and not understanding. You vastly underestimate what people are capable of understanding. You also have no idea of what I've actually experienced or haven't experienced. I happily mute people who I don't wish to listen to on VOIP and chat. Learn to do the same, or don't. But don't ever pretend anything you've experienced will somehow determine what I can or can not say.

[MacClearly]

The Unstoppable Puggernaut, on 20 March 2017 - 09:32 AM, said:

Until you've been beaten up for it, had that abuse told to you daily or shouted at you in the streets, you wouldn't understand it.

It's not something you'd expect to see/hear when chilling out playing a game of mech.

While I can see people getting annoyed that people should be just muting/reporting and pipe down, I didn't actually think it even existed in this game purely because I haven't seen it myself in two years of playing this game.

I'd highly suggest people auto-recording games anyways. I do it for a different reason but if I do catch of the ******* blasting down the mic, they'll get what they deserve.

You know that what you don't think people would understand has happened to the Irish? Yet there is no politically correct movement to protect our feelings (why we have whiskey but you can't make fun of us being drunks only we can....).

So good luck being the internet police and living your life looking to react to being offended.

[Mister Blastman]

Cathy, on 20 March 2017 - 09:11 AM, said:

Freedom of speech, in any country where it is exorcised, does not allow anyone to abuse the sensitives of others

https://en.wikipedia...ates#Exclusions

I am sensitive that people are sensitive about things, and their sensitivity bothers me.

^^ is why the whole sensitivity circle is a dead end. People will choose to be or not to be. Who are we to tell them what they believe is right or wrong? We can have opinions and our own private beliefs, and we can even choose to live by them and lead by example, but in no way should we try and purge the system of what they have to say just because we disagree with them. Nor should we try to force upon them what we hold as nouveau ideals and insist they accept them.

There are some hard limits, at least for me, racism being the main one. Folks can't help how they were born, and we're all in this together at the end of the day.

Edited by Mister Blastman, 20 March 2017 - 10:07 AM.

[Pyed]

Daisu Saikoro, on 20 March 2017 - 08:35 AM, said:

I love how hypocritical people are in stating they dislike racism or homophobia/homophobic/homosexual bashing comments, but "get over it and stop being so sensitive."

Just admit you're a hateful ignorant person if you wish to be so honest. You don't care. You're the same ilk as any person who'll sling nastiness, you just think you're better. You're not an ally, you're not someone who understands... you're likely as entitled as the others and it shows by you being a hypocrite.

I've lived as a racial minority, in Japan, for 9 years.
I am not being hypocritical and I'm not admitting to any hate or ignorance.

A culture and climate of free speech is really damned important and I feel very strongly that we need not to forget that.

[Pyed]

Cathy, on 20 March 2017 - 09:11 AM, said:

Freedom of speech, in any country where it is exorcised, does not allow anyone to abuse the sensitives of others

https://en.wikipedia...ates#Exclusions

I don't think those words mean what you think they mean...

[Iron Heel]

Not sure about other countries, but in the US, you do NOT have any right not to be offended.
Offensive language that doesn't rise to the level of threat or hate speech is just that, offensive language.
You can only be hurt or offended by that which you give the power to hurt or offend.