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[Mcgral18]

I do not enjoy most of the new content
Protecting Mr Potato Head is just annoying, as you cannot know which route he is going to take until it's too late, and your Spud compratiots may or may not push, whichever side you're on.

The path Mr Potato takes should be an easy addition to the battlegrid, but we've not gotten that QoL feature in the months it's been here. I genuinely do not enjoy the mode.

But worst of all, what Escort did, was remove a large percentage of the GOOD maps from showing up, because they do not support the mode
HPG
Mining
Canyon

Fun maps, not too dark, good visibility, fast action...but we see Grim (poorly balanced), Forest (damn that visibility), and Frozen so very often
Ignoring the fact the FC & FC are inferior versions to the old ones (#PGIPLZ), I have played so many maps and modes I simply do not enjoy, it ruined my enjoyment of trying to play Shooty Stompy Robots

I do not enjoy the newest additions to the game...
I'd almost like the option to opt out of Escort, because then I win on two fronts. No more Mr Potato Head, and I also get to win the Map Lottery more often, seeing the good, small maps, more than the large, poorly designed maps.


Domination is at least Skirmish in a Circle...until the last Reds go to hide and protect their Kd, but your allies stay in the circle, making you unable to play Shooty Stompy Robots...

Edited by Mcgral18, 21 March 2017 - 05:57 AM.

[TercieI]

For sure. As awful as Escort is, its corruption of map selection is the worst thing about it. I went 30 drops without being able to even vote for Canyon lately. I actually had withdrawal symptoms.

[Skoll]

If you think Escort is bad, wait until they release the abortion that's going to be MW 5. Kinda shows the effort they're going to put into AI, highlights their terrible map design even more, and shows just how much contempt they have for their players.

Very least, the VIP could have been a 90 ton tank or anything so it's smaller, has better hit boxes, and changes up the pace, but that would require effort.

[R Valentine]

Escort is just a god awful game mode. It takes the worst aspects of this game and puts them all into one match. Bad AI, bad maps, and the reminder that Frozen City used to be good. Now it's garbage. Why do maps need to be so freakin' big? So teams can NASCAR and never actually see one another? You can play Assault on Polar Highlands and never even see the enemy before the game ends. Both teams take right turns, whoever gets to the enemy base faster wins. No shooting required. Alpine Peaks domination? If you have the sh!t spawn and no lights, that game is over in 60 seconds. Again, no shooting required. Frozen City? Oh boy, it's like Polar with cover, but again, it's big enough that teams can run around each other and never fire a shot. When did we decide that Mechwarrior wasn't about shooting enemy mechs? Should we rename the game Gran Mechismo Online?

[Bishop Steiner]

So basically, you are saying:

1) I don't like any map where I don't have pristine firing conditions
2) I don't like any other tactical consideration other than killing the other team

That about sum it up? Was conquest the hated Game Mode of choice before this?

Just relax on the couch and tell Dr Bishop everything........ how was your relationship with your parents......?

(there may be some impertinent tongue ion cheek involved here, but also some genuine curiosity...not about your familial relationships though. )

[Alistair Winter]

I agree 100%.

The best maps are the older ones, generally speaking.
The map redesigns are not making maps better, just bigger.
The best game modes are the older ones.

And the worst part, obviously, is that PGI doesn't go back and fix those things. Or maybe the worst part is that they probably don't know how to fix those things. Dunno.

[Lucifaust]

I think escort route display would mosdef help us come up with some semblance of a plan. From the matches I played recently, I've found myself saying 'wtf is going on' as our team is spread out and doesn't really know what to do. either it degenerates into skirmish and we forget about vip, or vip runs straight into onslaught, or walks off in some obscure direction....it's a mess and pugs are bad at organizing as it is. lol

I like escort. I think AI is a cool addition to the game. I just wish it had more of the favorite maps mentioned above. also not a fan of the newer style huge maps, but if we can possibly get the old ones to work with escort that'd be a step in the right direction

Edited by Lucifaust, 21 March 2017 - 06:22 AM.

[Skoll]

It would be nice if whatever fool takes Company Commander could give the VIP directions / orders. Would actually serve as a point to the wasted effort that went into designing it. Currently it's only use is to have fun optimizing lances for the induced tears.

[NRP]

It would be cool if the Commander could set general waypoints for Mr. Potato head to follow. That way, faster mechanisms could scout and provide intelligence, and maybe we could have a tactical game, rather than a RNGeezuz game.

Edit: Skoll beat me to it.

Edited by NRP, 21 March 2017 - 06:28 AM.

[Lucifaust]

also I'd like to see the vip armed with a laser of some sort that would fire if an enemy got within a certain radius of vip, like a dropship or turret

seems kinda ridiculous that they build an atlas going near enemies without any weapons at all

Edited by Lucifaust, 21 March 2017 - 06:33 AM.

[Mystere]

Mcgral18, on 21 March 2017 - 05:47 AM, said:

But worst of all, what Escort did, was remove a large percentage of the GOOD maps from showing up, because they do not support the mode
HPG
Mining
Canyon

That sounds like great news to me!

One of the reasons I have been spending almost all of my gaming time on War Thunder since the start of the year is precisely because I got extremely tired of getting those same 3 maps over and over and over again.

[Skoll]

The best way to play Escort is, if you're defending, leg the Atlas.

Then overheat / out of bounds yourself.


If you're attacking, overheat / out of bounds yourself.

[Mcgral18]

Bishop Steiner, on 21 March 2017 - 06:16 AM, said:

So basically, you are saying:

1) I don't like any map where I don't have pristine firing conditions
2) I don't like any other tactical consideration other than killing the other team

That about sum it up? Was conquest the hated Game Mode of choice before this?

Just relax on the couch and tell Dr Bishop everything........ how was your relationship with your parents......?

(there may be some impertinent tongue ion cheek involved here, but also some genuine curiosity...not about your familial relationships though. )

I play Shooty Stompy Robots
Game modes which make that end early are game modes I do not enjoy

Conquest is generally over by the time caps come, and gives you extra Cbills. It's an okay game mode.
Unlike cap rushing Assault, sod those guys.
Skirmish, Dom and Conquest are the modes I can enjoy playing.
Escort is just painful in Potato land, even without the map consideration.

Positioning is all the tactical input I need.
Visibility wise, it's just unpleasant being forced to play in thermal. It's bleak, grey. When there are leaves all over your cockpit, it's the same story, you can't make out mechs without using Thermal, or going full Predator with ACs.

Again, I'm here to play Shooty Stompy Robots and enjoy myself, not walk around in a Black and White movie and standing in squares (or circles)

[Skoll]

Mcgral18, on 21 March 2017 - 06:38 AM, said:

Unlike cap rushing Assault, sod those guys.

Why didn't you defend?

[Mcgral18]

Mystere, on 21 March 2017 - 06:32 AM, said:

That sounds like great news to me!

One of the reasons I have been spending almost all of my gaming time on War Thunder since the start of the year is precisely because I got extremely tired of getting those same 3 maps over and over and over again.

I think I saw any of them three or four times, of over 20 matches

You're in luck, they are dead

Skoll, on 21 March 2017 - 06:42 AM, said:

Why didn't you defend?

You want me to TK the Potatoes?

[Skoll]

If you're complaining about being base capped on Assault, that means you didn't defend your base. You deserve that loss. It's been almost six years and people are still crying over a preventable loss.

Edited by Skoll, 21 March 2017 - 06:46 AM.

[Mcgral18]

Skoll, on 21 March 2017 - 06:46 AM, said:

If you're complaining about being base capped on Assault, that means you didn't defend your base. You deserve that loss. It's been almost six years and people are still crying over a preventable loss.

I'm complaining about it being a [Redacted] mode which gives you absolutely NOTHING if you don't shoot robots


The Potatoes who cap, Red or Blue, do not know better
They wasted my time, and I have every right to complain about their ignorance

Edited by draiocht, 21 March 2017 - 11:25 AM.
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[Coolant]

the mode would be better if the VIP mech actually fired back at the enemy instead of soaking damage. The enemy has no fear of the VIP mech so can just stand in front of it and fire.

[Skoll]

It gives you plenty. It gives you a win if you're a W/L/D [Redacted]. It gives the tears of people like you, which are probably the best thing about it. I'd rather basecap every time with a Locust lance while the rest of the team is distracting you because it's a more satisfying victory.

Edited by draiocht, 21 March 2017 - 11:28 AM.
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[Mcgral18]

Skoll, on 21 March 2017 - 06:53 AM, said:

It gives you plenty. It gives you a win if you're a W/L/D [Redacted]. It gives the tears of people like you, which are probably the best thing about it. I'd rather basecap every time with a Locust lance while the rest of the team is distracting you because it's a more satisfying victory.

Ah, WoL

The cancer

Edited by draiocht, 21 March 2017 - 11:29 AM.
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