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[Hit the Deck]

RestosIII, on 23 March 2017 - 08:05 PM, said:

2x PPC Adder or bust. Best loadout for it, hands down.

Anyways, Cougar? I'm probably going to load it up with ATMs/Heavy Lasers and just use it as a side gunner for my Assault lance. Best option it has really.

The Cougar could be mistaken for a (much) bigger missile boat if you don't show yourself to the enemy.

[Dr Mlem]

I always enjoyed the cougar, one of my favorite mechs.

That being said, all the small extra space it has, will be taken up by jj's and ecm. I really question on if it will be a mech I actually like in MWO, which is a shame. I think for a fire support it will be alright, but I dont see why I wouldn't just take a shadowcat.

[Hit the Deck]

Lazy Badger, on 23 March 2017 - 09:42 PM, said:

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I think for a fire support it will be alright, but I dont see why I wouldn't just take a shadowcat.

Mainly just for role-playing reason in QP. Also if you want to drop faster.

[El Bandito]

Hit the Deck, on 23 March 2017 - 08:35 PM, said:

The Cougar could be mistaken for a (much) bigger missile boat if you don't show yourself to the enemy.

Yep. Once my KTO-Golden Boy was mistaken for an entire lance of lurmboats cause I was chain-firing it. People get spooked so much by lurms.

Lazy Badger, on 23 March 2017 - 09:42 PM, said:

I always enjoyed the cougar, one of my favorite mechs.

That being said, all the small extra space it has, will be taken up by jj's and ecm. I really question on if it will be a mech I actually like in MWO, which is a shame. I think for a fire support it will be alright, but I dont see why I wouldn't just take a shadowcat.

It is 10 tons lighter, which can affect GQ and CW.

Metus regem, on 23 March 2017 - 02:36 PM, said:

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.... Heavy Ballistic weapons never work well on light mechs, too much investment for too little returns.

You shut up and let me pilot my 35 ton ECM Gauss Light mech. I wanted the Hollander, but Cougar will definitely tide me over.

Edited by El Bandito, 23 March 2017 - 10:19 PM.

[Lily from animove]

cougar? you mena the adder without roof?

Mystere, on 23 March 2017 - 08:06 PM, said:

Wat?

it shoots and starts spinning becaus eit can't stand the recoil

[Widowmaker1981]

Hit the Deck, on 23 March 2017 - 02:19 PM, said:

Thankfully it has ECM and JJs so you can make a poor imitation of the Shadow Cat dual ERPPC poptart.

a REALLY poor imitation, since in order to have JJs you need to put the PPCs in the arms and, unlike the SHC, the Cougar is going to have really knuckledragging arms.

[Lehmund]

MadHornet, on 23 March 2017 - 05:54 PM, said:

I'm interested in the Cougar (mainly because I like oddball 'mechs in mwo), but the Adder will still be better. 104 compared to 87 is a big difference in terms of light 'mech speed. The Adder already has a massive amount of podspace for its size. I think it is in the best possible position to be a high damage fire support light.

The Cougar, while even more powerful, will be simply too slow. Jumpjets won't help.

You'll have to play the Cougar as line support, and actually sticking to the heavies and assaults. It won't be fast enough to harass or flank. Just a low profile line mech, or you can use it as a discreet second line mech behind the big boys providing fire support that way as well. The small profile will make it easy to hide behind terrain and the ECM head means you can make it very nice ECM support for the big guys.

Once it goes to C-Bills, I'll get all of them kitted with ECM heads. It'll be great.

[Gas Guzzler]

You guys are right, it will be terrible. Just terrible, only if it has major quirks will it be remotely useful. Better give it lots of quirks!

[Hit the Deck]

Gas Guzzler, on 24 March 2017 - 06:54 AM, said:

You guys are right, it will be terrible. Just terrible, only if it has major quirks will it be remotely useful. Better give it lots of quirks!

I'm smelling someone who bought the Cougar for reasons.

[Metus regem]

Mystere, on 23 March 2017 - 08:06 PM, said:

Wat?

I stand by my statement.... mostly due to this abomination...

[C E Dwyer]

Never yet bought a mech on meta and ability to be good, it's pure looks

[Deathlike]

Widowmaker1981, on 24 March 2017 - 04:09 AM, said:

a REALLY poor imitation, since in order to have JJs you need to put the PPCs in the arms and, unlike the SHC, the Cougar is going to have really knuckledragging arms.

It'll probably have high mounted torso weapons though.... but I doubt that would be enough.

[Snazzy Dragon]

Deathlike, on 24 March 2017 - 08:36 AM, said:

It'll probably have high mounted torso weapons though.... but I doubt that would be enough.

Yes, it certainly helps to have more armor when peeking with high mounts, should someone with keen eyes see you anway

[Widowmaker1981]

Deathlike, on 24 March 2017 - 08:36 AM, said:

It'll probably have high mounted torso weapons though.... but I doubt that would be enough.

The JJ STs have no weapon hardpoints. Its JJs or ST weapons (and id choose ST weapons every time, if i ever buy it)

[Tordin]

I rather pilot Ullers/ Kit Foxes than Adders. Its personal preference. And I rather want the Cougar over Adder, and even Adder over Cheetahs.
I have kinde been introduced to the BT universe thanks to Mech Commander and Mech Warrior 4, so yeah nostalgia but Im also very aware that the COugar in MWO WILL handle different from the MW4 one. Im not judging it anyway before I pilot it.
Also, I say it again. Adders, Kit Foxes and Cougars (other slow Clan lights aswell) arent meant to be lights in the classic sene. superfast, great at scouting and harass. No they are meant at least as heavy scouts, supports, strikers and guards.
More firepower than speed is their goal. Accept that and you will find thoe slow-*** lights more enjoyable.
Believe me, it was though at first to even basic my Ullers, but they started to really grow on me, and now I have elited all.

[Widowmaker1981]

Tordin, on 24 March 2017 - 09:44 AM, said:

I rather pilot Ullers/ Kit Foxes than Adders. Its personal preference. And I rather want the Cougar over Adder, and even Adder over Cheetahs.
I have kinde been introduced to the BT universe thanks to Mech Commander and Mech Warrior 4, so yeah nostalgia but Im also very aware that the COugar in MWO WILL handle different from the MW4 one. Im not judging it anyway before I pilot it.
Also, I say it again. Adders, Kit Foxes and Cougars (other slow Clan lights aswell) arent meant to be lights in the classic sene. superfast, great at scouting and harass. No they are meant at least as heavy scouts, supports, strikers and guards.
More firepower than speed is their goal. Accept that and you will find thoe slow-*** lights more enjoyable.
Believe me, it was though at first to even basic my Ullers, but they started to really grow on me, and now I have elited all.

There is a really, really big difference between Stormcrow speed (adder, kitfox) and Hellbringer speed (Cougar). Its just going to be soo very easy to hit, and with 35 tonner armour... youll literally have to rely on ECM and never, ever peeking the same place twice to never get shot at..

And i like Adders, play them a lot. You know how fast the adder feels after it loses an ST? That will be the Cougar from the moment it drops. (and once it loses a ST it will be Night Gyr/Warhawk speed, lol)

Edited by Widowmaker1981, 24 March 2017 - 10:11 AM.

[Natred]

I love the adder and its place in the light realm, im not sure the cougar will be able to replace the adder in any way..

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Tordin, on 24 March 2017 - 09:44 AM, said:

No they are meant at least as heavy scouts, supports, strikers and guards.

They aren't even heavy scouts when several mediums match our outpace you.....

[Deathlike]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 24 March 2017 - 09:54 AM, said:

They aren't even heavy scouts when several mediums match our outpace you.....

Some Urbie said:

Cougar too slow

[Tordin]

Well yeah, heavy scout would surely fit the stormcrow, well medium clan mechs more.

After the Refusal War with Clan Wolf, Falcon Khan Marthe Pryde decided to upgrade the 'Mechs her Clan fielded as they rebuilt. Rather than waste precious resources designing a new OmniMech from the ground up, she instructed her scientists to improve upon existing designs. The design the scientists chose to modify was the Adder. Though the two 'Mechs are visually similar and share the same weight, the Falcon Cougar is slower and better armed, though it only has five and a half tons of Ferro-Fibrous armor. This process enabled the Falcon scientists to produce a new design in roughly half the time it would have taken them otherwise.^[1]

Hmm.. Aha! It was in MW4, I guess they mentioned the Cougar, or slow clan lights as heavy scouts. That or some kind of leader in a scout star or what clans call such recon units. Not actually a fitting classification for the Cougar, but oh well.