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[C E Dwyer]

El Bandito, on 25 March 2017 - 10:18 PM, said:

Of course you can have fun with it. Doesn't change the fact the scores are bad on average. I was having some hope for the mech when it was announced, but it missed the quirk lottery by a mile.

Surely fun is the major factor in most mechs or we'd all pilot the same six or seven and the game would close from lack of sales ?

[Bishop Steiner]

TercieI, on 26 March 2017 - 07:56 AM, said:

Prizes basically eliminated means no real reason to push. I'm content with daily doubles while leveling. Pixies I was done by now cuz leaderboards.

I honestly hadn't even looked at the prizes for the leaderboard. I've been testing and experimenting builds, and grabbing loot bags for the Lucky Charms thing. Then tonight got the Urbie Derby, etc. IDK how many people are really grinding, though the gap between 1st place and say, 20th, was pretty big when I did look.

Anyhow, unlike a certain sad sap on here (not you or Bandito, even) I don't particularly need to validate my epeen, so I'm gonna play it when and if I feel like it, for my own reasons. (Last night felt like playing WoT instead to grind up my new Valentine tank). Today, I have CGBI practice in an hour, then the Derby.

Meh.

[Bishop Steiner]

Cathy, on 26 March 2017 - 09:42 AM, said:

Surely fun is the major factor in most mechs or we'd all pilot the same six or seven and the game would close from lack of sales ?

Yeah, oddly though for some folks... well, "fun" is a very subjective term. But goodness, I didn't buy ASNs or UM-Rs expecting Meta. And TBH, the ASN is overall performing above my expectations, with the exception of the 21... since the SRM4 nerf has obviously impacted it compared to the expectations when I bought it.

Heck. I still want Stingers (no expectation of being good), Vulcans (unique geometry, but probably middle of the road effectiveness) and Crusaders (good brawlers, but not really set up to Meta).

There are some meta-sticks I wont mind seeing in game, too, but nostalgia, fun, etc, are much more important for me at this point. I've already got plenty of vanilla to choose from...why am I in a hurry for more?

[kuma8877]

Cathy, on 26 March 2017 - 09:42 AM, said:

Surely fun is the major factor in most mechs or we'd all pilot the same six or seven and the game would close from lack of sales ?

Fun is a prime factor with the ASN for me so far. While I'm not securing a lot of kills in my 101, I am getting a fair amount of KMDD's and having a much higher percentage of very close games, both wins and loses (which usually = fun). If I don't misstep early and get smoked, I really feel it's helped me contribute to those close games through perimeter harassment and focused fire to open up the armor on the enemy's heavy hitters before the fight really gets going. And at 143 kph'ish ( xl 330, stats not directly in front of me) I've been able to rundown last second objectives numerous times to help seal a victory.

Meta and lethality aside, the ASN is a lot of fun for me and you'll probably see me out in it a lot, and for quite some time. For me personally, money well spent on entertainment value.

[Bishop Steiner]

kuma8877, on 26 March 2017 - 10:14 AM, said:

Fun is a prime factor with the ASN for me so far. While I'm not securing a lot of kills in my 101, I am getting a fair amount of KMDD's and having a much higher percentage of very close games, both wins and loses (which usually = fun). If I don't misstep early and get smoked, I really feel it's helped me contribute to those close games through perimeter harassment and focused fire to open up the armor on the enemy's heavy hitters before the fight really gets going. And at 143 kph'ish ( xl 330, stats not directly in front of me) I've been able to rundown last second objectives numerous times to help seal a victory.

Meta and lethality aside, the ASN is a lot of fun for me and you'll probably see me out in it a lot, and for quite some time. For me personally, money well spent on entertainment value.

Absolutely agree with this. I love that it is a great freelancer, and those same attributes make it great at supporting the unit pretty much anywhere it needs it.And that ability to poke up out of nowhere and lend a blast of SRMs or pulse lasers, can be huge, at just the right time. It's not the best soloist mech (Though it's not terrible, just duels tend to be drawn out, so it's difficult to avoid getting interrupted, and you are likely to have taken significant damage, even if it's been spread). But it really is good at all kinds of team support roles, a decent scout, a great flanker and harasser, second line support anywhere on your firing line, etc.

I can see where it doesn't appeal to the carry harder mindset, but I love what this mech does do, and the more I drive it, the more I like it. I can't wait to see how it runs when it's been Elited and Mastered!

[Bandilly]

Just the basic pack plus DD here. I also run the 101 with 2x LPL (280XL), been working our pretty well.

With the 21 and 23 I've been running:

2ML + 4SRM4 (300XL)
3ML + 3SSRM2 (300XL)

The SSRMs are mostly so they're at least a little different from each other, both seem fairly effective though.

DD I'm still not sure about, if IS had one slot ERLLs like clan then I'd try just using two of those...but since you can't fit them I've got it as AC2 + ERLL right now. It's a little anemic but works great for suppression and still ends up with decent numbers.

[Bishop Steiner]

Bandilly, on 26 March 2017 - 10:31 AM, said:

Just the basic pack plus DD here. I also run the 101 with 2x LPL (280XL), been working our pretty well.

With the 21 and 23 I've been running:

2ML + 4SRM4 (300XL)
3ML + 3SSRM2 (300XL)

The SSRMs are mostly so they're at least a little different from each other, both seem fairly effective though.

DD I'm still not sure about, if IS had one slot ERLLs like clan then I'd try just using two of those...but since you can't fit them I've got it as AC2 + ERLL right now. It's a little anemic but works great for suppression and still ends up with decent numbers.

I've run the 21 with 4xSSRM2 and just never really "felt" it. Been doing the 3xaSRM6 on it... but been thinking about trying 3xSRM2 and 3xMPL..maybe see if I can pull the 3xSSRM2 with Wubwubs.

ASN-23

something like that..with MPL and SRM2 cooldown modules, it should cycle fast. But IDK if DPS based damage is a good idea. The Splat and Run works well to the ASN's strong points, but man, I'd kill for 1 more ton of ammo.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 26 March 2017 - 10:40 AM.

[Brenden]

Bishop Steiner, on 25 March 2017 - 07:42 PM, said:

I only have the Standard Pack and the DerpDeath, so I can't comment on the 26 or 27.

So far for me, the 101 has been the effective killer, my 23 the most damage and my 21 has been all over the map. Have not run DD yet, but hope to do so tomorrow.

As it stands, even though I'm averaging 50 pts more dmg a match with my 23 over the 101, the 860 hard damage cap (3x aSRM6 w/4tons ammo) is a bit lighter than I truly feel comfortable with (especially how often I have run dry), so I have to say my 101 is so far the go to ASN.

ASN-101

Have not elited any of them yet, have run them all thru basic then switched. That said, been very happy with them so far. So far, avg dmg is only 319,, and a 2.01 KDr. Best match for it has been 700 dmg even, with 5 kills (3 solo). If anything the LPL/ML combo could be "too efficient" as the lack of splash and spread damage means less Cbills per match.

That said, I'm thinking this summer it's going to 2x SN-PPCs/1x ML of some flavor, adding Light Ferro and upping to a 300XL with 3-4 JJs.

Anyhow, ASN folk...what's been your best backstabbing Gundam?

1 Small Laser
ECM
AMS
Biggest engine
Armor every where

[El Bandito]

Cathy, on 26 March 2017 - 09:42 AM, said:

Surely fun is the major factor in most mechs or we'd all pilot the same six or seven and the game would close from lack of sales ?

Which has no bearing on my observation that the Assassin is a mediocre mech.

[Bishop Steiner]

Brenden, on 26 March 2017 - 10:37 AM, said:

1 Small Laser
ECM
AMS
Biggest engine
Armor every where

interesting.......

El Bandito, on 26 March 2017 - 10:40 AM, said:

Which has no bearing on my observation that the Assassin is a mediocre mech.

An observation, one could point out, which has NOTHING to do with the OP. So, you know, there's that.

[El Bandito]

Bishop Steiner, on 26 March 2017 - 10:41 AM, said:

An observation, one could point out, which has NOTHING to do with the OP. So, you know, there's that.

Except anyone can see that performance has something to do with the mech's potential loadouts. Well, anyone except you, maybe.

[Bishop Steiner]

El Bandito, on 26 March 2017 - 10:44 AM, said:

Except anyone can see that performance has something to do with the mech's potential loadouts. Well, anyone except you, maybe.

Which again... has nothing to do with... "What are the best loadout/builds of for the chassis". It's just you being your usual swaggering *** self. As further demonstrated by the patronizing nonsense of your last post.

Anyone can figure that out...well, anyone but you, apparently.

[El Bandito]

Bishop Steiner, on 26 March 2017 - 10:46 AM, said:

Which again... has nothing to do with... "What are the best loadout/builds of for the chassis". It's just you being your usual swaggering *** self. As further demonstrated by the patronizing nonsense of your last post.

Anyone can figure that out...well, anyone but you, apparently.

Ah, so quickly back to personal attacks, I see. Well, didn't really expect anything less.

[Bishop Steiner]

El Bandito, on 26 March 2017 - 10:49 AM, said:

Ah, so quickly back to personal attacks, I see. Well, didn't really expect anything less.

Pretty laughable, coming from the guy who started with the shitposting and personal attacks. But if your little aggroposting makes you feel like a big man, enjoy. Maybe someday you'll actualyl get around to posting something remotely related to the topic of the OP, but I won't hold my breath.

[Brenden]

Everyone knows that if you can observe an Assassin, you're facing a horrible pilot/build.

The best Assassin is the one that is never seen.

[Bishop Steiner]

Brenden, on 26 March 2017 - 11:04 AM, said:

Everyone knows that if you can observe an Assassin, you're facing a horrible pilot/build.

The best Assassin is the one that is never seen.

deep thoughts.....

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 26 March 2017 - 11:11 AM.

[Ted Wayz]

Bishop Steiner, on 26 March 2017 - 10:06 AM, said:

I honestly hadn't even looked at the prizes for the leaderboard. I've been testing and experimenting builds, and grabbing loot bags for the Lucky Charms thing. Then tonight got the Urbie Derby, etc. IDK how many people are really grinding, though the gap between 1st place and say, 20th, was pretty big when I did look.

Anyhow, unlike a certain sad sap on here (not you or Bandito, even) I don't particularly need to validate my epeen, so I'm gonna play it when and if I feel like it, for my own reasons. (Last night felt like playing WoT instead to grind up my new Valentine tank). Today, I have CGBI practice in an hour, then the Derby.

Meh.

"Have not elited any of them yet, have run them all thru basic then switched. That said, been very happy with them so far. So far, avg dmg is only 319,, and a 2.01 KDr. Best match for it has been 700 dmg even, with 5 kills (3 solo). If anything the LPL/ML combo could be "too efficient" as the lack of splash and spread damage means less Cbills per match."

Yes, you have never been one to humblebrag or stroke your e-peen.

All I pointed out was if that was your KDR and average damage then your position on the leaderboard was impossible. Simple math, your ranks are way too low.

But anyway, you are way too above all of this...

On topic, fun chassis just not anything that will tear up the scoreboards. Given its durability, speed, etc. without new tech it is what it is. But then when new tech comes all mechs will be able to take advantage, so no advantage?

[Valleric]

In my opinion the assassin is an amazing mech. I only like 3, but the 21 is just killer. I've been doing really well on the 21. Best match damage so far 1156, and I've done 700+ many times. I run 300XL, 2 SRM 6, 2 SRM 4 with 500 ammo and one jump jet. I feel really confident in this mech and think I can stand toe to toe with any mech. You name it. I'm a veteran Oxide pilot, and it feels pretty much the same to me BUT WAY TANKIER. Just play sneaky and zoom around distracted mechs to alpha they back. Add me on stream if you want some more tips. That being said I think it does take skill and experience to get the most out of it. Just zoom around stealthy at 130kph and play smart! It's a new fave of mine!

[Valleric]

Holy balls! I just checked the leaderboard and I'm number 5 at the moment on the Assassin 21. I'm going to take #1 tonight!

[Dee Eight]

This is my Assimilator ASN-21 build, which just as an example... an escort polar game win an hour ago...4 killing blows, 2 assists, 2 solo, 3 kmdd, 595 damage, 11 components destroyed, 1 savior, 1 scouting, 1 flanking, With premium time 280k cbills and 2700+ XP. I've been having so much fun with it, I just rebuilt my ASN-21(S) to this configuration and made the basic ASN-21 the 2SL/4SRM4 build that was previously on the (S) version. The way the streaks destroy components over and over... might as well pick up the 30% cbill bonus on every one...since at 4k per component...that's an extra 1.2k.

Assimilator