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[Bishop Steiner]

Valleric, on 26 March 2017 - 01:24 PM, said:

In my opinion the assassin is an amazing mech. I only like 3, but the 21 is just killer. I've been doing really well on the 21. Best match damage so far 1156, and I've done 700+ many times. I run 300XL, 2 SRM 6, 2 SRM 4 with 500 ammo and one jump jet. I feel really confident in this mech and think I can stand toe to toe with any mech. You name it. I'm a veteran Oxide pilot, and it feels pretty much the same to me BUT WAY TANKIER. Just play sneaky and zoom around distracted mechs to alpha they back. Add me on stream if you want some more tips. That being said I think it does take skill and experience to get the most out of it. Just zoom around stealthy at 130kph and play smart! It's a new fave of mine!

must have nailed some ammo or some serious crits.... 500 SRMs is only 1075 (straight) damage. That sounds like a hawkeye, no waste match. I though pulling 718 out of 860 max (4 tons ammo) was good! But that would explain being 5th on the leaderboard. Good hunting!

Also, kind of figured that Oxide pilots would be the natural transition to it. And it's tankiness is very nice!

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 26 March 2017 - 02:30 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Dee Eight, on 26 March 2017 - 02:01 PM, said:

This is my Assimilator ASN-21 build, which just as an example... an escort polar game win an hour ago...4 killing blows, 2 assists, 2 solo, 3 kmdd, 595 damage, 11 components destroyed, 1 savior, 1 scouting, 1 flanking, With premium time 280k cbills and 2700+ XP. I've been having so much fun with it, I just rebuilt my ASN-21(S) to this configuration and made the basic ASN-21 the 2SL/4SRM4 build that was previously on the (S) version. The way the streaks destroy components over and over... might as well pick up the 30% cbill bonus on every one...since at 4k per component...that's an extra 1.2k.

Assimilator

I ran similar
ASN-21
but found it too situational, and I dislike not being able to focus damage, personally. Hence returning to the base SRM4/ML build. It's far and away the most consistent build I've found on it, though I have considered going to SMR4s/SPLs.

Just can't bring myself to slow it down to a 255 though.

[Dee Eight]

Untweaked its 103.3 with the 255. Tweaked its 111.

Edited by Dee Eight, 26 March 2017 - 02:48 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Dee Eight, on 26 March 2017 - 02:42 PM, said:

Untweaked its 103.3 with the 255. Tweaked its 111.

which puts it in the same speed ranges as my more potent YLW and VND-1AA. Too slow for my personal taste on this chassis.

[Mole]

I have been unable to make the 101 work very well for me. This is the best I could get out of the 101: ASN-101

I'm really enjoying my 23 though, which came as a pleasant surprise since I thought it was going to be the worst of the three Standard pack Assassins that I own. Here's what I've been running with it: ASN-23

I cannot comment on the 21 yet but I suspect it is going to be my favorite one with the following build: ASN-21

[Valleric]

Bishop Steiner, on 26 March 2017 - 02:25 PM, said:

must have nailed some ammo or some serious crits.... 500 SRMs is only 1075 (straight) damage. That sounds like a hawkeye, no waste match. I though pulling 718 out of 860 max (4 tons ammo) was good! But that would explain being 5th on the leaderboard. Good hunting!

Also, kind of figured that Oxide pilots would be the natural transition to it. And it's tankiness is very nice!

Bishop! Yea dude. I'm a good shot. Add me on steam and ill link you the screenshot. I don't waste ammo. I've been playing since beta so I better be a good shot lol.

[Bishop Steiner]

Valleric, on 26 March 2017 - 03:52 PM, said:

Bishop! Yea dude. I'm a good shot. Add me on steam and ill link you the screenshot. I don't waste ammo. I've been playing since beta so I better be a good shot lol.

dont have Steam added on this computer yet, due to it being borrowed.

Mole, on 26 March 2017 - 03:39 PM, said:

I have been unable to make the 101 work very well for me. This is the best I could get out of the 101: ASN-101

I'm really enjoying my 23 though, which came as a pleasant surprise since I thought it was going to be the worst of the three Standard pack Assassins that I own. Here's what I've been running with it: ASN-23

I cannot comment on the 21 yet but I suspect it is going to be my favorite one with the following build: ASN-21

Yeah, looks like my initial build, and it didn't work well for me either. Try the 2x LPL/1xML build. Freaking solid.

[bbihah]

2xppc ASN101 with 5jjs and two DHS is a hoot!

Starting to like strapping Streaks on the DD to chase down lights, accompanied with a PPC/ERPPC. Thanks to the fire and forget of the streaks can be quite useful when you are busy running, jumping and firing the ppc. And of couse 7 JJs for maximum awesomesauce.

Not meta or super in anyway. But hella fun and got me a good place on the leaderboard atleast


Kind of forced to use streaks atm due to my GPU being RMAed. Integrated graphics are kinda meeeeeh

Edited by bbihah, 27 March 2017 - 06:17 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

bbihah, on 27 March 2017 - 06:09 AM, said:

2xppc ASN101 with 5jjs and two DHS is a hoot!

Starting to like strapping Streaks on the DD to chase down lights, accompanied with a PPC/ERPPC. Thanks to the fire and forget of the streaks can be quite useful when you are busy running, jumping and firing the ppc. And of couse 7 JJs for maximum awesomesauce.

Not meta or super in anyway. But hella fun and got me a good place on the leaderboard atleast


Kind of forced to use streaks atm due to my GPU being RMAed. Integrated graphics are kinda meeeeeh

Curious what BlackOp is doing with the DD to have such a lead. And to have such a poorly optimized variant running heads and shoulders above the leaderboards of every other variant but the 21. (and even then only the top 2 21 jocks are higher). Has to be farming like mad or have tapped into the zen inner edgelord of the Darkdeath!

Eh... If I don't actually play mine tonight, I'll probably fall out of the top 100 on the two I'm on. Guess I'll have to see if I actually feel like it later. Meh. Haven't run them since Thursday or Friday night.

[TercieI]

Bishop Steiner, on 26 March 2017 - 03:55 PM, said:

Yeah, looks like my initial build, and it didn't work well for me either. Try the 2x LPL/1xML build. Freaking solid.

I'm running that on the 27 with ECM. Way better than it looks on paper. I've got 3LL on the 101, which works.

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TercieI, on 27 March 2017 - 06:38 AM, said:

I'm running that on the 27 with ECM. Way better than it looks on paper. I've got 3LL on the 101, which works.

seems like you are missing the advantage on the 101 though... all high points that require minimal exposure. But going 3x LL requires the arm, meaning more expose, and more armor... and the 27 does have ECM, but doesn't get the high hardpoint advantage. I'm pretty sure they're going to be revoking your meta membership any time now!

[TercieI]

Bishop Steiner, on 27 March 2017 - 06:56 AM, said:

seems like you are missing the advantage on the 101 though... all high points that require minimal exposure. But going 3x LL requires the arm, meaning more expose, and more armor... and the 27 does have ECM, but doesn't get the high hardpoint advantage. I'm pretty sure they're going to be revoking your meta membership any time now!

LL range is more favorable for PUGging. And, I was wrong, I have that on the 26 because ballistics on 40 tonners are dumb. The 101 has enough hardpoints for mixed brawling, so that's what it is (4MPL/2SRM4). I'm trying different stuff on different variants. If I was to want to use the 101s high hardpoints, it'd be PPCs, not LPLs to make better use of it. The arm-based 26&27 corner peek pretty nicely.

Edited by TercieI, 27 March 2017 - 07:38 AM.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

TercieI, on 27 March 2017 - 07:26 AM, said:

If I was to want to use the 101s high hardpoints, it'd be PPCs, not LPLs to make better use of it.

PPCs for group queue means you won't be applying enough pressure like you would with LPLs, simply because of the heat profiles. It might be better for solo queue though.

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 27 March 2017 - 07:30 AM.

[TercieI]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 27 March 2017 - 07:30 AM, said:

PPCs for group queue means you won't be applying enough pressure like you would with LPLs, simply because of the heat profiles. It might be better for solo queue though.

You feel like there's any build on an Assassin aside from SRMs in a matching deck that belongs in group queue? So far,* I don't. I'm pretty much viewing these as solo PUG laughers and my builds and approach reflect that.

*A dozen matches, nothing basiced yet

Edited by TercieI, 27 March 2017 - 07:38 AM.

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TercieI, on 27 March 2017 - 07:37 AM, said:

You feel like there's any build on an Assassin aside from SRMs in a matching deck that belongs in group queue?

I mean I have been leveling it in group queue, that said the mid range push oriented builds are stronger in group queue than the PPC poptart.

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 27 March 2017 - 08:04 AM.

[Gas Guzzler]

-21, 4 SRM4a, 4.5 tons ammo XL295
-23, 3 SRM6a, 4 tons ammo XL300
-101, 4 MPLs, 2 SRM4, 1t ammo, XL300, a couple DHS (can't remember, but its still super hot)

The 101 is okay, I like the 21 and 23 a lot more.

[TercieI]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 27 March 2017 - 08:04 AM, said:

I mean I have been leveling it in group queue, that said the mid range push oriented builds are stronger in group queue than the PPC poptart.

That makes sense, I just don't do a lot of leveling in group queue, especially these days.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Gas Guzzler, on 27 March 2017 - 08:07 AM, said:

-101, 4 MPLs, 2 SRM4, 1t ammo, XL300, a couple DHS (can't remember, but its still super hot)

The 101 is okay, I like the 21 and 23 a lot more.

You would like the 101 if you made better use of the high mounts. Kinda funny Bishop is using the more meta variant 101 than you guys

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 27 March 2017 - 09:01 AM.

[TercieI]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 27 March 2017 - 09:01 AM, said:

You would like the 101 if you made better use of the high mounts. Kinda funny Bishop is using the more meta variant 101 than you guys

LOL. I actually like a variety in leveling... That said, I've only got one drop in that one and am considering switching.

[Gas Guzzler]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 27 March 2017 - 09:01 AM, said:

You would like the 101 if you made better use of the high mounts. Kinda funny Bishop is using the more meta variant 101 than you guys

You mean the 2 LPL + ML build? Alright fine I'll give it a try. Just seemed so vanilla/cookie-cutter