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[Gas Guzzler]

Vanguard319, on 06 April 2017 - 08:02 AM, said:

The heavy lasers and HMGs on the Ice Ferret are nice, but I doubt they're going to make that mech viable.

Counter-call: the Ice Ferret already is viable. ECM is just a cherry on top. It can also do 5 cSPL and 2 SRM4s now... for whatever that's worth.

[Cy Mitchell]

TheArisen, on 06 April 2017 - 03:20 AM, said:

Actually he was saying pre-release

As I feared.

[Mcgral18]

Gas Guzzler, on 06 April 2017 - 08:18 AM, said:

Counter-call: the Ice Ferret already is viable. ECM is just a cherry on top. It can also do 5 cSPL and 2 SRM4s now... for whatever that's worth.

It is the most durable fast mover

Legs of a 55 tonner, speed and firepower of a Light
It's also over-sinked because of the low number of hardpoints, so giving up 1 DHS for ECM is absolutely no loss.

[TercieI]

Mcgral18, on 06 April 2017 - 08:41 AM, said:

It is the most durable fast mover

Legs of a 55 tonner, speed and firepower of a Light
It's also over-sinked because of the low number of hardpoints, so giving up 1 DHS for ECM is absolutely no loss.

Honestly, I'm just pissed that I'll now have two CB bonus versions, neither of which can run a decently optimized build because they're the only ones missing a CT energy point.

[Deathlike]

Mcgral18, on 06 April 2017 - 08:41 AM, said:

It is the most durable fast mover

Legs of a 55 tonner, speed and firepower of a Light
It's also over-sinked because of the low number of hardpoints, so giving up 1 DHS for ECM is absolutely no loss.

Ice Fridge now with Magic Jesus Box!

It's the best place to hide all your booze.

[Bishop Steiner]

Mcgral18, on 06 April 2017 - 08:41 AM, said:

It is the most durable fast mover

Legs of a 55 tonner, speed and firepower of a Light
It's also over-sinked because of the low number of hardpoints, so giving up 1 DHS for ECM is absolutely no loss.

you forgot the rad acid dropping paintjob. Worth cost of admission right there.....

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Bishop Steiner, on 06 April 2017 - 09:18 AM, said:

you forgot the rad acid dropping paintjob. Worth cost of admission right there.....

I'm not gonna lie, the patterns are pretty nice for most of these heroes even if the colors used are waaaaaaaay too vibrant.

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 06 April 2017 - 09:22 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 06 April 2017 - 09:22 AM, said:

I'm not gonna lie, the patterns are pretty nice for most of these heroes even if the colors used are waaaaaaaay too vibrant.

Dat EXE though... freaking Nacho lIbre bad. (despite being named after the supreme commander of the Mongol Royal Guard... which would seem to have fit better with modern CJF thinking..)

Also the My Little Pony glitters and Wonder Woman tiara on the Gargles is just.... no bueno.

Or the really silly hair metal adornments to Joann's Hellbringer (why the eff did they put Spanky Howell in the MDD instead of Joanna????? I would have bought a Joanna MDD...even with the stupid hairmetal adornments)

Even the EBJ... is meh. Just happy to see the Cloud Cobras and Ice Hellions get recognized, (along with CDS on the mkII) but the actual skin...meh. The ACH looks pretty neat..until one looks at the pods.

Actually, I dislike pretty much all of the ones heavier than the Scat.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Bishop Steiner, on 06 April 2017 - 09:30 AM, said:

Dat EXE though... freaking Nacho lIbre bad. (despite being named after the supreme commander of the Mongol Royal Guard... which would seem to have fit better with modern CJF thinking..)

Also the My Little Pony glitters and Wonder Woman tiara on the Gargles is just.... no bueno.

Or the really silly hair metal adornments to Joann's Hellbringer (why the eff did they put Spanky Howell in the MDD instead of Joanna????? I would have bought a Joanna MDD...even with the stupid hairmetal adornments)

Even the EBJ... is meh. Just happy to see the Cloud Cobras and Ice Hellions get recognized, (along with CDS on the mkII) but the actual skin...meh. The ACH looks pretty neat..until one looks at the pods.

Actually, I dislike pretty much all of the ones heavier than the Scat.

Meh, I think ones like the Ebon Jaguar or Executioner might not be so bad with different colors.

The Hellbringer and Gargoyle skins though are disappointing though.

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 06 April 2017 - 09:37 AM.

[Appogee]

I am genuinely puzzled why anyone cannot see that some of these new Heroes are P2W.

They provide additional hardpoints, in favourable locations. That enables some players to spend money to build more powerful Mechs ... Mechs which either have more weapons, or weapons in better locations, or more effective combat capabilities unavailable to those who don't pay.

That is the very essence of P2W.

The best example is the Gargoyle. It's fast Assault Mech presently somewhat gimped by not being able to equip any weapon in its Side Torsos. That means enemies can destroy its arms to neuter it, and that it cannot currently ridge peek. However, the Hero Gargoyle will be able to equip 4 weapons in its side torsos. Owners will be able to use those pods to increase the total number of weapons available, fight on when the arms are gone, ridge peek, and even strip armor from the arms to free up tonnage to accommodate more powerful Side Torso weapons or equipment. The resulting Gargoyle will be a more powerful Gargoyle than any other freely-available Gargoyle.

That is P2W.

You can argue that you think P2W is acceptable. That's a different argument. But there's no question that some of these new Heroes are not P2W.

Edited by Appogee, 06 April 2017 - 09:37 AM.

[MechWarrior5152251]

Going to be waiting a long time for the Right Shoulder Mount Energy Pod for the Summoner....

[Quicksilver Aberration]

MechWarrior5152251, on 06 April 2017 - 09:37 AM, said:

Going to be waiting a long time for the Right Shoulder Mount Energy Pod for the Summoner....

That will be available before these heroes are....

[Bishop Steiner]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 06 April 2017 - 09:38 AM, said:

That will be available before these heroes are....

I just wish the SMN Pryde had anything to recommend it for purchase... but my SMN Prime Invasion gives me 30% cbill boost already, so.... (and the loyalty pods honestly don't wow me.... now give me a LT pod with 2x Missile in it? Then I may perk up)

[Battlemaster56]

Bishop Steiner, on 06 April 2017 - 09:30 AM, said:

Dat EXE though... freaking Nacho lIbre bad. (despite being named after the supreme commander of the Mongol Royal Guard... which would seem to have fit better with modern CJF thinking..)

Also the My Little Pony glitters and Wonder Woman tiara on the Gargles is just.... no bueno.

Or the really silly hair metal adornments to Joann's Hellbringer (why the eff did they put Spanky Howell in the MDD instead of Joanna????? I would have bought a Joanna MDD...even with the stupid hairmetal adornments)

Even the EBJ... is meh. Just happy to see the Cloud Cobras and Ice Hellions get recognized, (along with CDS on the mkII) but the actual skin...meh. The ACH looks pretty neat..until one looks at the pods.

Actually, I dislike pretty much all of the ones heavier than the Scat.

I actually like the color and skin layout of the Gargoyle, and the Hellbringer idk why it's just stands out compare to the others skins that isn't the Ice Ferret, the snake scale look is alright but not my favorite design personally.

[Bishop Steiner]

Battlemaster56, on 06 April 2017 - 09:56 AM, said:

I actually like the color and skin layout of the Gargoyle, and the Hellbringer idk why it's just stands out compare to the others skins that isn't the Ice Ferret, the snake scale look is alright but not my favorite design personally.

taste, as ever is subjective.

I like the basic effect on the Gargoyle, but feel the "wolfy face" looks liek a poster a tweenage girl would have, and the tiara just looks silly. The opalescent effects by them self I am fine with, it's the total package that bugs me.

[Battlemaster56]

Bishop Steiner, on 06 April 2017 - 10:12 AM, said:

taste, as ever is subjective.

I like the basic effect on the Gargoyle, but feel the "wolfy face" looks liek a poster a tweenage girl would have, and the tiara just looks silly. The opalescent effects by them self I am fine with, it's the total package that bugs me.

I can see your point, about the package.

[Bishop Steiner]

Battlemaster56, on 06 April 2017 - 10:18 AM, said:

I can see your point, about the package.

well if you wanna stare at Ulrich's package, I'm not one to judge....

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 06 April 2017 - 10:20 AM.

[Battlemaster56]

Bishop Steiner, on 06 April 2017 - 10:20 AM, said:

well if you wanna stare at Ulrich's package, I'm not one to judge....

I walked myself right into that one.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Bishop Steiner, on 06 April 2017 - 09:54 AM, said:

(and the loyalty pods honestly don't wow me.... now give me a LT pod with 2x Missile in it? Then I may perk up)

How about 3 on each side? Summoner G/Q coming to a loyalty pack next year!!!

You think the SRMmoner is popular now, just wait until we have those pods, basically a heavier humanoid jumping Mad Dog.

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 06 April 2017 - 10:50 AM.

[Gas Guzzler]

Also not a fan of the gold tack-on items pattern ornaments, especially on the Hellbringer.