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[Humpday]

You know which is "teh suck" for lt, med, hvy, assault for IS/CLan

Game is boring me already after only 3 months I've almost quit due to everything being repetitive.
Though the event things are super fun, I really enjoy those, it cool when you get free toys.

I really need that weapons pack deal to drop but that crap is in July...I'll have forgotten this game by then.

Anyway I think I wanna drive around in the most un-ideal of chassis' for shits n giggles and see if I can make them viable for me.

Leave the IS urbie out of this...I can't understand why people hate on it, I'm in the positive for K/D for it after 16 games and it is stupidly fun to play. Maybe I accidentally bought one of the stronger variants? UM-R63, nothing fancy, just 3 mg 3 mlas.

Anyway...go! Don't do variants though just judge a chassis as a whole be it hardpoints, or armor ect ect ect....

[Revis Volek]

Your post was too boring after 3 sentences...




IS lights and Mediums are hard mode.

[Mister Blastman]

The Victor is pure crap.

So is the Trebuchet.

And then there's the sad Dragon... once used to be good, now relegated to the lolzpile.

[Bud Crue]

No need to look for the most "un-ideal chassis" just play lore builds or stock IS mechs if you need a challenge. Std heat sinks and half armor on any mech you care to choose ought to be plenty hard. Pick a nice mixed build with a slow standard engine and you will be all set.

[N0ni]

Commando / Mist Lynx

Vindicator / -

- / - (Dragons may not be 'ideal', but they're still viable so i left this blank)

Victor / -

Take your pick.

[Snazzy Dragon]

Kit fox without purifier omni pods. Pay to balance!

[El Bandito]

Just dig through IS trash bin. Clans do not have dogcrap mechs thanks to Clan tech.

[Vanguard319]

El Bandito, on 06 April 2017 - 07:54 PM, said:

Just dig through IS trash bin. Clans do not have dogcrap mechs thanks to Clan tech.

Let's see:

Shadowcat - Kind of disappointing, because it was a good mech in previous games. who the hell at PGI thought an all MG build was a good design? Thing really needs a couple more energy hardpoints.

[Shifty McSwift]

So far the "fix" has been to boost IS armor rates massively, so I wouldn't be surprised if that trend continued in its silly way.

It is just powercreep though, not something we should want.

[Zergling]

Well, they aren't all 'dog crap', but here's the worst of each weight class and faction:

Urbanmech / Mist Lynx
Vindicator / Ice Ferret
Dragon / Orion IIC
Victor / Gargoyle

[Shifty McSwift]

The new clan weapon platforms can break open almost any mech in an alpha or two? Better boost those armor rates right?

It just creates new problems of its own. Just because it takes 2 or 3 alphas to kill one with a clan weapons platform now, it just means those lower damage IS mechs will struggle even more vs both the meta clan and new meta IS mechs. So the next step is to boost them too, but then those once meta mechs become obsolete in their own ways as a result, so probably time to boost them too... And so it goes until even lights have 100 front CT armor and carry 2 ppcs and 2 gauss.

[Juodas Varnas]

Zergling, on 06 April 2017 - 09:41 PM, said:

Urbanmech / Mist Lynx
Vindicator / Ice Ferret
Dragon / Orion IIC
Victor / Gargoyle

Lol...
If the Orion IIC is considered "dog crap" for the clans... Just holy ****...
It's like better than 80% of IS heavies

[Zergling]

Juodas Varnas, on 06 April 2017 - 09:43 PM, said:

Lol...
If the Orion IIC is considered "dog crap" for the clans... Just holy ****...
It's like better than 80% of IS heavies

As I said, they aren't all 'dog crap'. The Orion IIC is one of those that isn't.

It probably is the weakest of the Clan heavies, but pretty much every other Clan heavy is good (even the Summoner).

Edited by Zergling, 06 April 2017 - 09:45 PM.

[El Bandito]

Vanguard319, on 06 April 2017 - 09:31 PM, said:

Let's see:

Shadowcat - Kind of disappointing, because it was a good mech in previous games. who the hell at PGI thought an all MG build was a good design? Thing really needs a couple more energy hardpoints.

Shadowcat is still good at what it does as a harasser, far from dogcrap.

[Juodas Varnas]

El Bandito, on 06 April 2017 - 10:10 PM, said:

Shadowcat is still good at what it does as a harasser, far from dogcrap.

Pretty much.
It's a 45 tonner and probably the best 45 tonner in the game.

[Pariah Devalis]

Juodas Varnas, on 06 April 2017 - 10:12 PM, said:

Pretty much.
It's a 45 tonner and probably the best 45 tonner in the game.

Eh. Doing harassment, sure. Not in a straight fight. The Blackjack is better in a straight up fight than the Shadow Cat, outside of SRM-bomber SHC builds, and even then an AC20 BJ has great odds against the Shadow Cat. The Shadow Kitty needs to leverage its slipperiness in order to outfight things, even of the same weight (outside of, say, an Ice Ferret). However, raw stopping power it does not have.

I'd say the Viper is probably the worst of the Clan mediums, but it most certainly is fun to pilot.

The worst Clan heavy, IMO, is the Mad Dog. It has one good build with splat, but its side torsos evaporate in a stiff breeze which kinda works against it in a brawling role.

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 06 April 2017 - 10:24 PM.

[Reverend Herring]

Of the ones I own, I find the Spider 5V completely useless. Only thing it has is speed, but the 5K is equaly fast but with more harpoints. Sure it can jump, but... meh.

I also don't like the Grid Iron. Not at all. I just can't make it work.

Of the heavies I have, I'd say the Mad Dog was a bit dissapointing. It plays more like a medium than a heavy, but I wouldn't go as far as to call it (mad) dog crap.

In general I like assaults, but the Atlas AS7-RS is my least favourite assault mech. There are propably worse assaults out there, but it's the one I have had least fun piloting. I elited it to get the DDC mastered. Haven't touched it ever since.

[Juodas Varnas]

Pariah Devalis, on 06 April 2017 - 10:22 PM, said:

Eh. Doing harassment, sure. Not in a straight fight. The Blackjack is better in a straight up fight than the Shadow Cat, outside of SRM-bomber SHC builds, and even then an AC20 BJ has great odds against the Shadow Cat. The Shadow Kitty needs to leverage its slipperiness in order to outfight things, even of the same weight (outside of, say, an Ice Ferret). However, raw stopping power it does not have.

I'd say the Viper is probably the worst of the Clan mediums, but it most certainly is fun to pilot.

The worst Clan heavy, IMO, is the Mad Dog. It has one good build with splat, but its side torsos evaporate in a stiff breeze which kinda works against it in a brawling role.

In the current game environment Harasser mediums are probably superior to the "Straight up fight" ones.

Mostly because every other Heavy/Assault mech in the game can kill them in a single alpha

[Pika]

El Bandito, on 06 April 2017 - 07:54 PM, said:

Just dig through IS trash bin. Clans do not have dogcrap mechs thanks to Clan tech.

Jesus, man. This crusade has been going on for months. Stop, for your own sake. You sound like you're driving yourself crazy

Humpday, on 06 April 2017 - 03:27 PM, said:

You know which is "teh suck" for lt, med, hvy, assault for IS/CLan

This is all subjective mind you, but here goes!

IS:
Light: - Tough one, most IS lights are fairly decent. I'd probably lean toward the Panther? Still, decent enough in scouting. That or the Spider with the tiddly energy hard points. 'least it's fast!
Medium: - Centurion. Nice in scouting and packs a decent punch but in standard games it's just outclassed by most other 'mechs now. Hunchback can do almost everything it can better.
Heavy: - Easy, the Dragon.
Assault: - Victor. This needs so much help it's not even funny.

Clan:
Light: The Adder. Slow, big, fat, flimsy arms. Nice at poking but there are so many 'Mechs that can it's job way~ better. I was torn between this and the Kitfox, but i've pulled 1000 damage in a Kitfox with an AC2 and lasers and relying on that ECM sooo~ yeah.
Medium: Hands down, the Viper for me. Legs made of Styrofoam on jumping 'Mech, runs hotter than the sun and meh firepower. Fixed equipment leaves you with, I think, 5/6 tons of podspace. Usless.
Heavy: - Hard one for clans as all the Heavies are generally good choices but I'd probably go for certain versions of the Summoner or the Mad Dog. MDD just falls apart if you look at it funny and the Summoner, aside from the loyalty one is just... well there is a reason you never see 'em.
Assault: - The Gladiator. Oh god why is this even in the game? Firepower of a light, armor of a heavy, tonnage of an assault. Horrible horrible horrible. The Clans version of the Victor.

Edited by Pika, 06 April 2017 - 10:46 PM.

[Davegt27]

OP your bored already

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