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[TheArisen]

B33F's video clearly outlines the strategy. Understand it and react accordingly.

[The Lighthouse]

Play pure Gauss build and you won't ever have to worry about flamers. (Gauss rifles are perfectly heat neutral)

[Revis Volek]

Razorfish, on 07 April 2017 - 05:00 PM, said:

Crap like this is why the player base is dropping.

But you still have super pilots claiming everything is fine.

NO we just have a lot of scrubs that cant use simple game mechanics.

The NVA isnt the first mech to ever use a flamer, i use one on many mechs and stun lock my opponents when I fight them. They may not overheat but they aren't dissipating it either.


A certain forumwarrior i know has many a headshot from over heating mechs with flamers loooooooooong before the b33f thought it was cool.


Hes late to the party honestly.

Edited by Revis Volek, 07 April 2017 - 05:56 PM.

[Mister Blastman]

[The Lighthouse]

I mean seriously, flamer Nova has very, super crazy easy counter.... Just like how you handle an light mech....


Move as group instead of an isolated single.


Just like an light mech trying to take down an assault, a flamer Nova will die very fast if there is just a single teammate watching over you.

People who die to flamer Nova are probably very same people who feel light mechs are overpowered. Move as together and you will find flamer Novas are literally one-trick pony.

Edited by The Lighthouse, 07 April 2017 - 05:59 PM.

[SQW]

OMG, I'm at 90% heat being shot at by weapons that does no dmg. What do I do???!! I know, ALPHA STRIKE!

Eventually, the OP will learn how to 'git gud' or rage quit MWO. Either case would benefit his team.

[nitra]

Flamer trolls while annoying, are no where near game breaking. They may be however game changing and might have you rethink some of your load outs in order to deal with these pests . Thats not necessarily a bad thing.

It brings variety to the game and gives more purpose to light and medium mechs . i think the long range high alpha builds do more damage to this game than the flamer trolls .

[MadHornet]

How do you even let him get within 100 meters of you?

[FalconerGray]

I'm a jaded bittervet who will always jump at the chance to inject some much needed "fun" into this game. Gave this beast a shot and honestly? Not that impressed. It's fun, sure, but the fun comes from the silliness of it all.

In reality though, if I was able to kill you with the Flamer build....I also would have killed you with the standard 12xSPL build. And probably quicker, too.

[Y E O N N E]

Just wait until people start splitting the Flamers and cSPL such that each arm is 3+3 so you can't just gimp it by blowing a single side away.

[Tincan Nightmare]

Even better, now that we are getting new tech, just wait until plasma weapons get added and you can start to stun lock opponents from much farther away!

[Y E O N N E]

Tincan Nightmare, on 07 April 2017 - 10:42 PM, said:

Even better, now that we are getting new tech, just wait until plasma weapons get added and you can start to stun lock opponents from much farther away!

I wish. I would love the dynamic that Plasma Rifles and Clan Plasma Cannons would add to the game.

[ClannerBannaner]

SQW, on 07 April 2017 - 06:06 PM, said:

OMG, I'm at 90% heat being shot at by weapons that does no dmg. What do I do???!! I know, ALPHA STRIKE!

Eventually, the OP will learn how to 'git gud' or rage quit MWO. Either case would benefit his team.

Holy **** speaking of flamers I got burneeeeddd!!!!!!!!!! Kys.

[Kaspirikay]

oh my lawd this is the first time ive seen flamer hate oh god this is gold

[Paula Fry]

That build is hard to play and most of the Time YOU die trying.....
But when you kill a Supernova or a Kodiak.....Priceless! And a deserved kill!
Most of the Peeps i saw it play didn't had the balls and the coolnes to hit the Pit
in that short Time.
And died .....

Edited by Paula Fry, 08 April 2017 - 02:47 AM.

[MechWarrior5152251]

One word for you. Machine Guns!

[MechWarrior5152251]

It was probably me, I dropped 3 times with my flamer nova. The flamer has a max range of 90m, and I learned that day that it is the crappiest weapon in the game. You can get incredibly lucky if you can get close, but it takes way more skill to use this Nova than whatever meta cheese you are using.

[Daggett]

Paula Fry, on 08 April 2017 - 02:44 AM, said:

That build is hard to play and most of the Time YOU die trying.....

Exactly. This is the reason why the nova flamer is not OP. As i mentioned in another thread i played this build last year and i needed more than a month of focused training to get good enough with it to be able to contribute to my team as much as i do with other builds. In the first weeks i died horribly because either my target or the timing was wrong or simply because i missed the cockpit (most mechs have quick ignition which greatly reduces the time-window for a headshot).

Most of the guys who have seen B33f's video dreaming of easy kills and the guillotine achievement will probably be disappointed. In the end only a handful players are willing to spend some weeks on learning the build.

If you then happen to meet one of those and make a mistake then be it so. They probably would have killed you with any build. For example before i played the flamer nova i was into the 12spl build. I always killed more guys in a match with this simple laser-spam than i did with the flamer nova. I guess it makes no big difference if a player instantly gets killed by a 72dmg alpha to his CT or if it happens by a flamer-induced headshot. He's dead in both cases because he made a mistake.

BTW: I have not played the flamer nova for the last 4 months because though the build is fun it gets boring after a while.

So don't worry mechwarriors. The flamer nova will maybe a small trend for a few days/weeks and then most players realize how hard it is to play. Another few weeks later even the players who learned the build will probably get bored at some point and switch to other mechs.

Edited by Daggett, 08 April 2017 - 03:41 AM.

[Mystere]

Boo! Hoo! I died! PGI nerf NAO or I will rage quit!

[Mystere]

SQW, on 07 April 2017 - 06:06 PM, said:

OMG, I'm at 90% heat being shot at by weapons that does no dmg. What do I do???!! I know, ALPHA STRIKE!