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#1 SirCrab22

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 04:47 AM

'Straya here, My old M17x Alienware laptop is pretty dusty and i MWO is a real challenge to play on it. I usually manage 10-15 FPS or less and frankly i am astonished i even managed to get the King Crab at all.

Issue is i have incredibly limited internet over here in the outback and run off a real expensive Wifi (Waiting and hoping they finally install a cable) So re-installing isn't an option.

I'd real appreciate any assistance because frankly i am at the end of my tether

Any pointers?

Cheers
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System Information
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Time of this report: 4/8/2017, 22:25:03
Machine name: LOGIC-ENGINE
Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64-bit (10.0, Build 10586) (10586.th2_release_sec.160422-1850)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Alienware
System Model: M17xR4
BIOS: A09
Processor: n/a
Memory: 16264MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 16264MB RAM
Page File: 8021MB used, 11341MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: 12
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: 120 DPI (125 percent)
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
Miracast: Available, with HDCP
Microsoft Graphics Hybrid: Supported
DxDiag Version: 10.00.10586.0000 64bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Display Tab 2: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Graphics Preemption: DMA
Compute Preemption: Thread group
Miracast: Supported
Hybrid Graphics GPU: Integrated
Power P-states: Not Supported
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#2 MechWarrior319348

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 01:29 PM

Yargh

Edited by Dillion Harper, 08 April 2017 - 01:30 PM.


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Posted 08 April 2017 - 01:36 PM

Make sure your Laptop has a processor:
BIOS: A09
Processor: n/a
Memory: 16264MB RAM

And see to it, that it uses your Radeon 7970M instead of the Intel Graphics.

Edited by PFC Carsten, 08 April 2017 - 01:36 PM.


#4 Tarl Cabot

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 04:33 PM

1. Control Panel- Power Options - Set to High Performance - AC connected (no battery)
2. Can of compressed air - blow out and consider replacement thermal compound on heatsinks
https://www.techinfe...cpu-on-m17x-r2/

3. Biggest part - create user.cfg in MWO folder, have at least sys_MaxFPS = 30 Idea is not to try to run at max FPS which then can cause a yo-yo effect for when Turbo boost kicks in, giving more power (and generating more heat) to 1 core, which then surpasses thermal threshold and drops CPU speed below normal.

4. A cooling pad/device to help blow/draw heat air away from laptop.

Edit

May need to reinstall AMD GPU drivers.

http://support.amd.c...Windows+10+-+64

Edited by Tarl Cabot, 08 April 2017 - 04:43 PM.


#5 SirCrab22

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Posted 09 April 2017 - 12:01 AM

Thanks, I'll start trying these out and it should turn out pretty swell.

And you mention user.cfg in MWO? So it must be created or does it exist already in the files?

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Posted 09 April 2017 - 09:08 AM

The user.cfg has to be created.


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BIOS: A09
Processor: n/a


And to add to Carsten's post, you need to update or rerun the chipset driver for your system.

http://www.dell.com/...rivers/advanced

Edit - just to also add. Are you playing MWO with the standalone or via Steam? I saw where some people were having issues having their games recognizing the AMD GPU so had selected Intel GPU (built-into the GPU) Below is directions to manually switch between Intel HD Graphics and the AMD Discrete GPU.

http://www.dell.com/...card-s-?lang=EN

And always play MWO with AC Adapter plugged in :)

Edited by Tarl Cabot, 09 April 2017 - 09:40 AM.






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