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#61 justcallme A S H

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 08:36 AM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 20 April 2017 - 08:23 AM, said:

You do know those were not PGI'S ideas right? somebody presented that to them. at least the 1-3. So go talk to the guys who are present at the rountables.

The other stuff you said, whatever

well, present that to the community and see where it goes.


1. PGI came up with the final design.

2. The final design was NOT what was presented at the round table.

3. The ToW system proposed did NOT include mass QP at all.

4. The big one was a button for teams to "show/request" other big teams, that didn't happen.


I would suggest you go back and watch the first town hall, again. A lot of people have claimed the "majority" wanted QP maps included. But to date, not one user on this forum, has provided anything to back that up.

#62 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 08:38 AM

View Postjustcallme A S H, on 20 April 2017 - 08:36 AM, said:



okay, I am not going to go digging so. You believe that. that's all fine and dandy.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 20 April 2017 - 08:38 AM.


#63 Jaybles-The-PegLeg-PotatoCaptain

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 08:41 AM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 20 April 2017 - 08:30 AM, said:

right, you also want me to point where they suggested a tug of war. Was that also a purely PGI idea. do you even listen to the rountables?

I know you like to stay isolated in your in-group but, PGI had a panel where people pitch them ideas. I know mind-blown. Then I am not going to waste my time as I didn't with some other guy last year digging through those things. If your not attending them I don't know what to tell you



That is not how this works.

You present something as fact.

I challenge you to provide citation.

the onus lies on you to do so.

The fact is I have listened to every word of the round tables regarding FP and not once did the participating members mention or advocate for the addition of QP modes in FP.

I will gladly eat crow if you can provide the round table # and time stamp in the recording where this happens.

Please prove me wrong.

#64 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 08:43 AM

View PostJaybles, on 20 April 2017 - 08:41 AM, said:



how about no.

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 08:46 AM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 20 April 2017 - 08:35 AM, said:

well, that's your opinion.

TBH, I don't think many people find this an issue.


Do you remember Tukayyid? Either one?

Can you imagine how boring it would have been if during the event the % meter only fluctuated a little or not at all?
That is in fact what they have done with 4.1 made a mode where the goal is stagnation of play. Yippie. You may not think it is "an issue". To me and many others who have left, it is the only issue. Ces't la vie

#66 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 08:47 AM

View PostBud Crue, on 20 April 2017 - 08:46 AM, said:

Do you remember Tukayyid? Either one?

Can you imagine how boring it would have been if during the event the % meter only fluctuated a little or not at all?
That is in fact what they have done with 4.1 made a mode where the goal is stagnation of play. Yippie. You may not think it is "an issue". To me and many others who have left, it is the only issue. Ces't la vie

so lets just change to where if one side wins once, they win the planet, and we just open all the planets to be attack after the last one is taken.

I don't know what your guys solution is. Saying going back to phase 2 doesn't tell me much. You are always going to get this as long as you allow the other side to win something back

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 20 April 2017 - 08:50 AM.


#67 Jaybles-The-PegLeg-PotatoCaptain

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 08:50 AM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 20 April 2017 - 08:43 AM, said:

how about no.



Here is my evidence that it did not happen in the form of both round tables:




https://www.reddit.c...le_wruss_derek/

Go ahead and point out where it happened.

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 09:04 AM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 20 April 2017 - 08:38 AM, said:

okay, I am not going to go digging so. You believe that. that's all fine and dandy.


You continually make that claim yet to this day have provided anything to substantiate it. Not once.

As soon as you are asked to provide it "oh no, that's too hard" or "I'm not going to go digging for it" or some other excuse or just fob it off.

You can't dig for something that does no exist.

View PostJaybles, on 20 April 2017 - 08:50 AM, said:



Here is my evidence that it did not happen in the form of both round tables:




https://www.reddit.c...le_wruss_derek/

Go ahead and point out where it happened.


uh oh.

sheet just got real... EVIDENCE to the contrary!

zOMG

Edited by justcallme A S H, 20 April 2017 - 09:05 AM.


#69 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 09:12 AM

View PostJaybles, on 20 April 2017 - 08:50 AM, said:




There is a podcast where phil was making a case for it. Also the polling for the idea was well received.

I got a podcast mixed up for a roundtable. Its been months.

View Postjustcallme A S H, on 20 April 2017 - 09:04 AM, said:



All right trolls settle down. you got 1.

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 20 April 2017 - 07:39 AM, said:

"The only reason Siege does not get seen enough is the was PGI has designed FP4.1 - Fact."


You said this just in this thread, and had the never to claim you didn't say anything factual. Lets not celebrate too soon. I mess up everyone in a while, but some of you just get lost all the time.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 20 April 2017 - 09:21 AM.


#70 Jaybles-The-PegLeg-PotatoCaptain

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 09:23 AM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 20 April 2017 - 09:12 AM, said:

There is a podcast where phil was making a case for it. Also the polling for the idea was well received.

I got a podcast mixed up for a roundtable. Its been months.


All right trolls settle down. you got 1.


You mixed up PGI's hired PR guys at NGNG with the round table player base participants?

And according to the Polls, Brexit didn't happen and Hillary is the POTUS.

#71 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 09:25 AM

View PostJaybles, on 20 April 2017 - 09:23 AM, said:



yea, but, if I did a poll now, QP maps in FW would probably still have a favored position.

I don't think I have been in the chat, faction or clan people complaining about QP being in faction.

However your still on thin ice. If you think QP was just PGI's idea alone then that would be incorrect. Which your initial post lead to believe.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 20 April 2017 - 09:29 AM.


#72 Jaybles-The-PegLeg-PotatoCaptain

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 09:29 AM

https://mwomercs.com...n-faction-play/

121 in favor of siege compared to 19 against.

two weeks old.

Edited by Jaybles, 20 April 2017 - 09:30 AM.


#73 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 09:33 AM

View PostJaybles, on 20 April 2017 - 09:29 AM, said:

https://mwomercs.com...n-faction-play/

121 in favor of siege compared to 19 against.

two weeks old.

so guess it doesn't pay to base of old info then. i'll guess ill eat my shirt.

did people really like siege that much? I never knew.

View PostRedjack d3, on 20 April 2017 - 09:33 AM, said:

BLOOD WOLF thoughts matter. pls no bully

how many of these loser trolls do i got to put on ignore. Too much internet dude. Go do something productive, and stop trolling

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 20 April 2017 - 09:42 AM.


#74 Jaybles-The-PegLeg-PotatoCaptain

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 09:41 AM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 20 April 2017 - 09:33 AM, said:

so guess it doesn't pay to base of old info then. i'll guess ill eat my shirt.

did people really like siege that much? I never knew.



The people who played FP and kept playing FP even after 3.1 crushed so many hopes played because they actually liked siege. Me personally, I played it because it wasn't quick play and I like the longer matches.

4.1 was kind of a slap in the face to everyone who kept FP alive during the downturn after 3.1. Now everyone is leaving 4.1 except those same players who like siege. It's really not shocking that they would want to see more siege.

This of course is my opinion based on observations and should not be taken as fact.

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 09:44 AM

View PostJaybles, on 20 April 2017 - 09:41 AM, said:



The people who played FP and kept playing FP even after 3.1 crushed so many hopes played because they actually liked siege. Me personally, I played it because it wasn't quick play and I like the longer matches.

4.1 was kind of a slap in the face to everyone who kept FP alive during the downturn after 3.1. Now everyone is leaving 4.1 except those same players who like siege. It's really not shocking that they would want to see more siege.

This of course is my opinion based on observations and should not be taken as fact.

siege was not really fun. All it was was setting up a kill zone for the attacker.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 20 April 2017 - 09:45 AM.


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 09:48 AM

View PostNaglinator, on 20 April 2017 - 09:46 AM, said:

Holy crap it's opposite day???



Autismo day.










ignore test

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 09:48 AM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 20 April 2017 - 09:44 AM, said:

seige was not really fun. All it was was setting up a kill zone for the attacker.



If you don't like it, stick to quick play.

What are the ones who do like it supposed to do?

That's right! Play skirmish for 2 hours, and then domination, and then conquest and then assault and maybe 4-5 hours later, maybe. maybe. we might get Siege for an hour or two if we're lucky. Some time zones won't see it at all ever because of the static 8 hour windows.

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 09:50 AM

View PostJaybles, on 20 April 2017 - 09:48 AM, said:



If you don't like it, stick to quick play.

What are the ones who do like it supposed to do?

That's right! Play skirmish for 2 hours, and then domination, and then conquest and then assault and maybe 4-5 hours later, maybe. maybe. we might get Siege for an hour or two if we're lucky. Some time zones won't see it at all ever because of the static 8 hour windows.

why not just play if it gets to where you want it? I dunno. Seems people always want the reverse. First they want it, now they don't. Who knows

Hey nags, and redjack, To bad you can't see my hand, because theres a finger who want's to say hi. I know scummies won't be banned or moderated, so I am just gonna give you my full regards. You guys been on my butt for a long time now, How does the rear taste?

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 20 April 2017 - 09:57 AM.


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 09:53 AM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 20 April 2017 - 09:50 AM, said:

why not just play if it gets to where you want it? I dunno. Seems people always want the reverse. First they want it, now they don't. Who knows


Because we don't want to play quick play. We don't like it. We'd rather play siege. PGI forces us to play QP modes in order to get Siege.

Honestly at this point I wish PGI would just scrape FW all together and make Siege available in private lobby. At least that way, the teams that enjoy playing it could go play it against each other.

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 09:58 AM

View PostJaybles, on 20 April 2017 - 09:53 AM, said:


We don't like it. We'd rather play siege. PGI forces us to play QP modes in order to get Siege.



First off, i don't know who this "we" is. Second I don't know what else to tell you.





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