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#1 unify82

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Posted 16 April 2017 - 11:11 AM

I got a desktop with i7 7700 (3.6ghz, turbo auto goes to 4.2ghz), 16gb ram (2x8 hyperX) and gigabyte gtx1070 g1 gaming.

I set the game for high and the performance is not what I expected. I get about 60fps when no combat is happening and about 25 - 45 when in middle of a firefight.

Vsync is off and blur is also off.

I now MW is cpu intensive, so my GPU does not weight that much, but I think the performance could be better.

Running windows 10 x64 creators update, fresh install, all updates made before using the game. Nvidea, bios and 1070 all latest drivers and firmware.

Any suggestions on how to boost the game to get at least solid 60fps count in high (have not tested ultra) ?

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Posted 16 April 2017 - 12:24 PM

display resolution ?

did you tried to set particles at low? if not, test it

if no change, set off damage glow

if no change, then set off anti-aliasing and test it

full screen mode is better too

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Posted 16 April 2017 - 12:38 PM

Also, it seems like there is some gaming performance issues with Windows Creator Update

#4 Tarl Cabot

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Posted 16 April 2017 - 12:46 PM

Control Panel, Power Options, set to High Performance.

#5 unify82

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Posted 16 April 2017 - 06:47 PM

Sorry, I forgot to tell the display settings:

1920 x 1080p 60hz, i play in full screen mode.

I went to windows and created a High Performance profile por power and set it as default.

Disable all the xbox game stuff (dvr, bar and so on).

I will do another test without changing anything inside the game yet. The whole ideia of playing the game in high is to have all the stuff working beautifully. It will be a shame if I have to low down things just to have 60fps - having a great machine and note be able to use it in the games you like to play is sad...

#6 unify82

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Posted 16 April 2017 - 08:06 PM

Played couple games. Grim and canyon, quickplay. Used gameboost from gigabyte to stop some programs running in the background and set the fan to performance.

Got 52 fps most of the time during game, a single drop to 25 and another to 41 on each map.

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Posted 17 April 2017 - 12:02 AM

I have a similar system to yours, expect for the monitor (144Hz) and graphics card (Nvidia 970)

My advanced graphics settings have been switched to low expect for, Object Detail, Texturing and Environment which are set to high.
Running Dx11, with Damage Glow on and V sync on.

I get between 80 and 140 fps on Grim Plexus.

Looks fine but I do get some LOD pop up, which I overcome by hiting mechs in the head which on most is CT

#8 Jubblator

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Posted 17 April 2017 - 01:39 PM

I think its an issue with directX and the game coding, i have a new predator 17" with i7-770hq and gtx 1070, 32gig ram. The game ran at max settings on 100+ fps then suddenly dropped to 1, like every time missiles came etc.

What i found worked for me is switching from DX11 to DX9 in the video settings (not in battle, because you cannot, remember to restart game aswell).
The overall FPS dropped a bit from 100+ to about 60-90 BUT i have no framdrops now to 1 like i got before. Try this put guys, it might help you.

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Posted 17 April 2017 - 03:53 PM

Every system is different, but I found that damage glow messed with my SLI setup. Even running on just a single 970 I can still get 60 FPS consistently @ 2560x1440 with high/ultra settings, AA on

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Posted 17 April 2017 - 06:11 PM

View PostJubblator, on 17 April 2017 - 01:39 PM, said:

I think its an issue with directX and the game coding, i have a new predator 17" with i7-770hq and gtx 1070, 32gig ram. The game ran at max settings on 100+ fps then suddenly dropped to 1, like every time missiles came etc.

What i found worked for me is switching from DX11 to DX9 in the video settings (not in battle, because you cannot, remember to restart game aswell).
The overall FPS dropped a bit from 100+ to about 60-90 BUT i have no framdrops now to 1 like i got before. Try this put guys, it might help you.


Most motherboards use Realtek HD Audio, and the drivers can be quite out of date.
Mine for example were dated 2013, I recently updated to the 2017 driver and noticed that stalls due to sound effects were greatly reduced

http://www.realtek.com/downloads/

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Posted 18 April 2017 - 12:14 AM

You might be limited by your i7 7700non-K processor. MWO really (and I mean REALLY) eats up clock cycles due to high amounts of draw calls, and the 3.6ghz-4.2ghz boost (1 core) is really hurting you. Consider this: I just built a new system for my wife 2 weeks ago with a i5 7600K overclocked to 4.8Ghz + GTX 1070, and her fps sits around 120, with dips to the mid 60's during the times where there are many lrms flying through the air. On paper, your i7 7700 should be a better processor than a stock i5 7600k, but when that processor is overclocked, it can actually power the GTX 1070 adequately for MWO purposes.

Also, Intel non-K processors boost is limited to a single core (mentioned above) while K processors allow all 4 cores to boost to max frequency that you set.

Edited by Vxheous Kerensky, 18 April 2017 - 12:17 AM.


#12 OMEGA-CHI

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Posted 18 April 2017 - 05:43 PM

OPEN STEAM. Load and install "EVGA Precision X" overclocking app. Run this app prior to running MWO. A most impressive result.

OMEGA CHI,

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#13 Michal R

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 03:25 AM

Change setings of CPU.
You need to use all core all the time.
When you use bost, CPU use only one core and use another when that one have a problem.
Bost is sh%%it for MWO.

You can change it in setings. Use uncle google.
I have i3 CPU and have more FPS than you, but I use my CPU 100% all the time.

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 07:34 AM

I tried Dx9, was worse actually.

My cpu on boost mode use all 4 cores, they stay at 4000ghz all the time. Sometimes one of them goes to 4.2, than goes back to 4.

All my cores are in use, all the threads (8) are in use.

Is that 200hz diference in one core so problematic ?

Also, i believe I have enought power to everything... so seems odd that boost is creating the problem...

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 04:53 PM

Make sure High Performance is selected in Power Options under the control panel. Make sure High Performance and Single Monitor Performance mode is also selected in the Nvidia Control Panel. No reason your system should be suffering. Also try everything on high, then slowly increase settings back to Ultra, see if that helps.

If you are crafty and have been through the BIOS before I'd suggest forcing 100mhz block, 40x CPU multiplier, and disable energy saving options. A couple watts won't make a difference on your energy bill. If all of that solves your problems, work backwards. HPET might help you, but I never noticed any difference with it on or off. Hope this helps.

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 08:20 AM

So, you say 60 fps with no combat going on on a 1080p-60-Hz display. Try looking up into the sky - are your fps higher than your refresh rate now? Should be at least in the low 3-digits-realm.

If not: You can enable VSync in the game as well as the driver. If you stay at 60 fps no matter what, you're playing with VSync. If your fps drop to 30 when there's a lot of action, you're playing with double-buffering, so you only get 60 and whole-number divisions of that (60-30-20-15-12-10) and so on.

Also make sure, you did not turn on neither TXAA (since that costs some performance as well) nor DSR and are actually playing in a much higher resolution like UHD. The former is in the game, the latter in the drivers, as well as the Vsync options there.

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 08:40 PM

Power settings on high on win and nvidea,

Actually, I get numbers like 59, 45, 23, 18 now. When I look the skie no changes, still around 59. Dsr is off, vsync is off in the game and nvidea.

So I have not changed a thing and now I get around 45 to 56 in game, with drops to 31 when some actions in happening all round, my settings are on high, not even on ultra.

Strange. I am starting to think this is windows creator related. Other games also have performance issues (fps is lower than what should be).

GPU is going about 80% usage and cpu 56 to 60%, all cores used and al threads.

Not a clue what is going on...

#18 unify82

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 05:36 PM

Funny thing, I have turned some of the settings to medium on and my fps count has remained the same as before... no changes at all

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 09:29 AM

View Postunify82, on 20 April 2017 - 08:40 PM, said:

Actually, I get numbers like 59, 45, 23, 18 now. When I look the skie no changes, still around 59. Dsr is off, vsync is off in the game and nvidea.


So, when you cannot go over 59 Hz, then you have VSync turned on. When looking at the sky, even my 2nd PC which used a Pentium G4560 and a GTX 1050/2GB goes to the three-digit frames per second league.

Try the following: Switch Vsync in the Nvidia driver to "adaptive", press apply and switch it to off. If that does not help, maybe there's the Xbox DVR running in the background, capturing your gaming action and limiting your Fps to 60 in the process since it cannot go higher maybe?

Did you check whether or not you have Geforce Experience installed and there MAY be a profile for MWO active which supersedes the generic driver setting?

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 07:08 PM

After more than 10 days fighting with the problem, things are looking better. I enabled Intel Speed Shift on the BIOS, giving the cpu a better ramp on clock and taking the cpu control off the OS a bit, and one person from another forum in another game suggested me to unistall all gigabyte apps from my pc (my mobo is gigabyte and gpu also). So I uninstalled something called EasyTuningEngine, gigabytes app that runs in the background to set everything from fans, to termal state, OC and so on. Now I Get, all stuff on high, particles medium, AntiAlising off, blur off, damage glow off, about 81 ~ 100 fps in the game. Sometimes it drops to 52 or 43 in some maps when there is a big fight, but usuallu around 80 something fps.

Thanks everyone who replied here, I took all your advices and they helped my to test and find out that at the end, the problem was an manufacturer app.

So, to anyone who has a probem in Win 10 with a Gigabyte mobo, that is the thing. Take all their apps out of your OS.

See you people in tyhe fight !





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