156 replies to this topic

[dario03]

Alright I'll bite

Johnny Z, on 25 April 2017 - 04:33 AM, said:

I have had 5 kill matches a couple times this last week and I never get called a cheat. Know why? Because getting 5 kills legit isn't easy. Everyone spectating can see whats going on. If someone thinks someone is cheating, its a safe bet they are. For any newbies reading this, knowing that if after some thought and experience at the game, and you think someone is cheating, they most likely are, ignore the trolls and accept it, use the complaint button, assume they will eventually be banned and consider it hard mode, because even cheats can be fought and defeated.

Define "easy". Easy to get 5 kills in every match? No, pretty sure most don't do that. Easy to get 5 kills here and there? Yeah, heck you can just luck into that sometimes. Heck both of my last ace of spade matches involved a lot of luck.

Johnny Z, on 25 April 2017 - 04:44 AM, said:

What ever your defend cheat users openly and not fooling anyone. Some streamers have been perma banned for using cheats. I seen someone put a video of their own gameplay on this forum who was using a bot lol. I seen guy match my highest scores in faction play and I remembered him because no one has matched my highest score legit I know of, and he got perma banned. Your a nobody telling one of the best players in the game whats easy. Very funny. Go back to your private team speak channel and tell each other how good you are instead. You likely not even a half good pilot. By the way I miss plenty and have bad matches, but I can also wipe out nearly entire teams solo sometimes. So have a bot ready if you see me coming in a match.

I feel like I've asked this before but.... How could you possibly know that? Have you just not seen many high score screenshots? Have you just not seen anybody top the score while in match with you? What was your score?

[Escef]

Wil McCullough, on 25 April 2017 - 07:07 AM, said:

thing is, most of time it's interpreted less of "calling out the situation" and a lot more of "damn it, johnny's tilting earlier in the game than expected".

iirc, it actually affects your in-game performance. once it happens, you start oscillating between being extremely passive and extremely suicidal to prove that the guy "hacking" can nail you again with the same impossible shot .

Mole, on 25 April 2017 - 07:25 AM, said:

Ah. I love it when Johnny Z is off his meds. Buckets o' entertainment.

At least he's not as bad as Muddy or Grizzly.

[Mole]

Escef, on 25 April 2017 - 07:28 AM, said:

At least he's not as bad as Muddy or Grizzly.

Who?

[Mystere]

The6thMessenger, on 24 April 2017 - 07:05 PM, said:

stat shaming

Please, give valid point on why it's possibly not cheating without resorting to stat shaming. <smh>

[meteorol]

Lul.

You gotta love mods sleeping on a "OH MY GAWD HAX" topic long enough for Johnny to go nuts.

Probably the most entertaining thing on the forums nowadays.

[Wil McCullough]

Escef, on 25 April 2017 - 07:28 AM, said:

At least he's not as bad as Muddy or Grizzly.

i haven't had the pleasure of interacting with mud and grizzly. maybe grizzly briefly but we didn't butt heads.

and frankly, johnny is fine. lol. if being a tad too quick to call "hacks" is the most that people can say about him, he's alright.

now zuul on the other hand...

[Mole]

Wil McCullough, on 25 April 2017 - 07:44 AM, said:

now zuul on the other hand...

Bahahaha. Oh man that guy is a real hoot. One of those "It's funny because it's so sad" kind of deals.

[nehebkau]

IBTL

MountainRat, on 24 April 2017 - 06:56 PM, said:

Is PGI ever going to do anything about the hacks that are being used? When you get hit from 1000 yds in nothing but CT it is obvious they are being used! Why play if you have to cheat?

People cheat because winning is more important than playing. People cheat because reputation is more important than personal achievement. People cheat because they are unwilling to confront their own limitations and accept that sometimes you just aren't as good as you would like to be.

Escef, on 24 April 2017 - 08:27 PM, said:

I've been playing since early open beta, and I've seen maybe two people I suspected were hacking. I reported and got on with my life.

That's all that you can do. I can't help but think that the game would be more 'alive' if PGI was more active (or blatantly visible) in dealing with cheaters. Honestly, aside from the occasional ban you see very little going on and, taking it on faith, just doesn't work. IMHO all you are left to believe is that PGI has, internally, admitted defeat and is only putting up token resistance. I could be very wrong in this but I only have what I see to go on and, I see very well. The impression that 'cheaters' are playing is JUST as bad (maybe worse since you end up in witch hunts) for the game as people actually cheating.


@OP, I suggest if you really want to have a talk on cheating go to one of the reddit MWO forums.

Edited by nehebkau, 25 April 2017 - 07:52 AM.

[Mystere]

Johnny Z, on 25 April 2017 - 03:24 AM, said:

What I am saying is if these shots being made are not bots, then go watch the world championships and watch the "best players" in the game and see how good they are playing legit for sure 100%.

The really good players making these shots should be doing as well in the world championships right?

To clarify I am not saying anyone in the world championships is a cheat, I am saying the best players are there and that's the best gameplay by definition, so these amazing shots where someone calls bot is put into context. If the 'best players" can make these shots in regular play why isn't that happening in the world championships?

Although I did suggest in my previous reply some of the top guilds cheat on a regular basis and that they cheat because they are really really bad at this game and cant hit anything without using cheats or win a match without using cheats.

Is it entirely inconceivable that the "best players" think the MWO world championships are not worth their time?

And by the way, this thread has been reported.

Edited by Mystere, 25 April 2017 - 07:56 AM.

[AphexTwin11]

Mystere, on 25 April 2017 - 07:55 AM, said:

And by the way, this thread has been reported.

SOFT

[Mystere]

SmokedJag, on 25 April 2017 - 04:06 AM, said:

It's not "aiming" when I poke a third over a building edge with a ECM equipped, matte grey painted light and almost immediately take hit or near-miss direct fire from a kilometer away. No radar contact, no UAV, much too far for thermal vision, barely distinct if at all from the cover (depending on map) with the naked eye.

I absolutely believe there are 3rd party "assists" being used in this game.

You just missed the enemy spotter behind you.

AphexTwin11, on 25 April 2017 - 07:58 AM, said:

SOFT

???

Carl Vickers, on 25 April 2017 - 04:10 AM, said:

If they were hacking, why miss, damn you guys need some brain cells. Get a good computer and turn everything up to max on graphics, can see mechs 3-4 km away on the other side of maps.

They probably do not have one of those fancy schmancy monitors where contrast and gamma can be set via keystrokes or analog inputs.

[AphexTwin11]

Mystere, on 25 April 2017 - 08:00 AM, said:

???

Not hard to understand.

[Mystere]

AphexTwin11, on 25 April 2017 - 08:03 AM, said:

Not hard to understand.

Apparently it is.

[Johnny Z]

Mole, on 25 April 2017 - 07:25 AM, said:

Ah. I love it when Johnny Z is off his meds. Buckets o' entertainment.

No meds here, having to much fun.

Yes I shouldn't make fun of those that need to cheat. Its a character flaw.

Edited by Johnny Z, 25 April 2017 - 08:14 AM.

[Juju Shinobi]

Brb turning off my AutoCAD and Spud.exe

[Bud Crue]

This is still going.

Geezus.

It's threads like this that do give proof to the lie of a certain dev who has been known to say "we are always monitoring the forums".

[Humpday]

Bud Crue, on 25 April 2017 - 08:20 AM, said:

This is still going.

Geezus.

It's threads like this that do give proof to the lie of a certain dev who has been known to say "we are always monitoring the forums".

I dunno lol I got warned about circumventing the auto word censor thing lol They're def watching...probably dont' see this as an offense.

[Bud Crue]

Humpday, on 25 April 2017 - 08:22 AM, said:

I dunno lol I got warned about circumventing the auto word censor thing lol They're def watching...probably dont' see this as an offense.

?

I say "Geezus" as a euphemistic expression of disgust and to differentiate such use from the proper name "Jesus". Neither is subject to censorship or a violation of the COC, but discussing hacks and cheats, as well as making personal attacks against other partisipants are violations. Alas, no mods and no monitoring get a 7 page thread of this.

[Roughneck45]

Johnny Z, on 25 April 2017 - 08:24 AM, said:

Keep the insults and threats coming. Tough guys don't start fights like you are doing by the way. So you know what you can do with your insults and threats.

By the way, few things would make me happier. I cant stand bullies.

I've started nothing Johnny, its always you with the threats, or how tough you are, or how you can take someone on. I don't say things like that on the internet because its pointless, cowards hide behind their ISP's and hurl insults, or cheating accusations, or thinly veiled threats with a somewhere. Those people are called trolls.

I said don't stop being the crazy mofo that you are because it leads to highly entertaining threads. All forums need personalities.

I mean FFS, our first interaction was me complementing your paint jobs and you responding with a 3 paragraph essay about how I wasn't a manly enough and you could kick my a**.

Edited by Roughneck45, 25 April 2017 - 08:39 AM.

[AphexTwin11]