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#141 Tarogato

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Posted 25 April 2017 - 08:41 AM

View PostJohnny Z, on 25 April 2017 - 05:19 AM, said:

The very concept of cheating is disgusting to me, why would I record it.



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#142 Bud Crue

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Posted 25 April 2017 - 08:47 AM

View PostRoughneck45, on 25 April 2017 - 08:32 AM, said:


I mean FFS, our first interaction was me complementing your paint jobs and you responding with a 3 paragraph essay about how I wasn't a manly enough and you could kick my a**.


Oh Lord! I remember that thread. I distinctly recall the WTF? feeling after reading Johnny's response to your post. Gotta be on a greatest hits of the MWO forums compilation. Now I must find it.

Edit: got it. Thread title: "Show off Your Deckles!" Page 4. From July 19, 2016 (cant post a link with this stupid IPAD thingy). Anyway some great writing and great reactions by all. Good stuff.

Edited by Bud Crue, 25 April 2017 - 08:55 AM.


#143 Johnny Z

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Posted 25 April 2017 - 08:49 AM

View PostRoughneck45, on 25 April 2017 - 08:32 AM, said:


I've started nothing Johnny, its always you with the threats, or how tough you are, or how you can take someone on. I don't say things like that on the internet because its pointless, cowards hide behind their ISP's and hurl insults, or cheating accusations, or thinly veiled threats with a Posted Image somewhere. Those people are called trolls.

I said don't stop being the crazy mofo that you are because it leads to highly entertaining threads. All forums need personalities.

I mean FFS, our first interaction was me complementing your paint jobs and you responding with a 3 paragraph essay about how I wasn't a manly enough and you could kick my a**.


Your not just a bully, your a liar.

#144 Hal Greaves

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Posted 25 April 2017 - 08:54 AM

i once got called a hacker once, after i 1-shot a Grid Iron in the back with an SRM bomb Griffin-2N.

Then I also got called a hacker when I blew a leg off an Arctic Cheetah in 1 volly.

I really like Griffin-2Ns.

#145 Johnny Z

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Posted 25 April 2017 - 08:59 AM

View PostBud Crue, on 25 April 2017 - 08:47 AM, said:



Oh Lord! I remember that thread. I distinctly recall the WTF? feeling after reading Johnny's response to your post. Gotta be on a greatest hits of the MWO forums compilation. Now I must find it.

Edit: got it. Thread title: "Show off Your Deckles!" Page 4. From July 19, 2016 (cant post a link with this stupid IPAD thingy). Anyway some great writing and great reactions by all. Good stuff.


Its a bully convention?

#146 dario03

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Posted 25 April 2017 - 09:00 AM

I just wanna know what that cw score was.

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Posted 25 April 2017 - 09:00 AM

View PostJohnny Z, on 25 April 2017 - 03:24 AM, said:

What I am saying is if these shots being made are not bots, then go watch the world championships and watch the "best players" in the game and see how good they are playing legit for sure 100%.

The really good players making these shots should be doing as well in the world championships right?

To clarify I am not saying anyone in the world championships is a cheat, I am saying the best players are there and that's the best gameplay by definition, so these amazing shots where someone calls bot is put into context. If the 'best players" can make these shots in regular play why isn't that happening in the world championships?

Although I did suggest in my previous reply some of the top guilds cheat on a regular basis and that they cheat because they are really really bad at this game and cant hit anything without using cheats or win a match without using cheats.

Just to be clear: Being in the MWOWC doesn't make someone invariably the 'best'. There were a lot of people that didn't participate in the tournament that can run circles around quite a few of the participants. More accurately, they were good enough to beat everyone set against them in teamplay conditions, not everyone in the game, either individually or even as a team, as it's entirely possible to put together 1v1s or a 'dreamteam' that would likely have had far different results... So it's not exactly a good baseline indicator or useful comparison tool.


A lot of the goings on can be attributed to just a handful of legitimate factors. People missing shots under certain circumstances isnt some new development as most players are more comfortable or specialized in specific types of gameplay... Such as certain engagement ranges, certain weapons or specific builds--Some people have an easier time hitting people running to the left versus running to the right simply because they're right or left handed and adjusting their aim respective of that comes much easier to them.


There's also the fact HSR is not perfect... By far. Once you realize you still have to lead targets in quite a few shot scenarios and anticipate where the section you're shooting at will be versus where it currently is on a moving or torso-twisting target, you'll find your damage being delivered much more consistent and precisely. That isn't including that HSR goofs on a regular basis, depending on where the weapons fire fell during the time frame snapshot, because HSR can make some really bull**** conclusions that leave you scratching your head as to how in the heck it came up with what it did... Because the sliver of rear CT that was exposed for a split second, from whatever angle respective to the enemy's general direction, suddenly came up as the destination point for the PPC they just fired into your face from 150m, 50m off the ground.

In summation, most of the 'hackusations' can be attributed to wonky HSR and flat-out luck.

#148 Bud Crue

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Posted 25 April 2017 - 09:01 AM

View PostJohnny Z, on 25 April 2017 - 08:59 AM, said:


Its a bully convention?


No bully here, just google and your handle and roughnecks. First hit. Your writing provided the rest. It really is good stuff.

#149 Roughneck45

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Posted 25 April 2017 - 09:04 AM

View PostJohnny Z, on 25 April 2017 - 08:49 AM, said:

Your not just a bully, your a liar.

That's rich, considering how many posts you've had to replace with a "..." or a "hahaha" or some other nonsense to replace whatever nonsense you typed.

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#150 Johnny Z

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Posted 25 April 2017 - 09:10 AM

View Postmeteorol, on 25 April 2017 - 07:43 AM, said:

Lul.

You gotta love mods sleeping on a "OH MY GAWD HAX" topic long enough for Johnny to go nuts.

Probably the most entertaining thing on the forums nowadays.


Ouch, that hurt.

#151 Johnny Z

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Posted 25 April 2017 - 09:17 AM

View PostBud Crue, on 25 April 2017 - 09:01 AM, said:



No bully here, just google and your handle and roughnecks. First hit. Your writing provided the rest. It really is good stuff.


Interesting.

You seem upset maybe try dealing with your anger differently than bullying. Maybe take a break from the computer.

Edited by Johnny Z, 25 April 2017 - 09:18 AM.


#152 Weeny Machine

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Posted 25 April 2017 - 09:17 AM

I remember the last time this discussion came up. People swore tooth and nail that there is no botting and they ridiculed (like now) people and called them out.

Then we had 2 ban waves. Woopsie. There was aim botting!

I also wonder why some people are so upset that this topic comes up...

#153 SneekiBreeki

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Posted 25 April 2017 - 09:20 AM

Oh god this thread, how could i miss this gem?

View PostYarai Miu, on 25 April 2017 - 08:18 AM, said:

Brb turning off my AutoCAD and Spud.exe


Juju, can i haz Spud.exe? :Y

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Posted 25 April 2017 - 09:22 AM

View PostBush Hopper, on 25 April 2017 - 09:17 AM, said:

I remember the last time this discussion came up. People swore tooth and nail that there is no botting and they ridiculed (like now) people and called them out.

Then we had 2 ban waves. Woopsie. There was aim botting!

I also wonder why some people are so upset that this topic comes up...


The last time? The last time was like a week ago, if that.

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Posted 25 April 2017 - 09:25 AM

My name is BanditB17 and this is my favorite thread on mwomercs.

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Posted 25 April 2017 - 09:26 AM

View PostJohnny Z, on 25 April 2017 - 05:53 AM, said:

Its good to see what side of the fence everyone is concerning hacks and such things. I am getting a laugh out of the line up of really bads though.


Your disproportionate WLR to KDR suggests you're in the "really bads" category of players who employ the tactic of deliberate AFK/Kill stealing but not actually caring to support the team to a win.

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Posted 25 April 2017 - 09:26 AM

[mod]Discussing hacks and accusing other pilots from using said hacks is strictly forbidden.

Please refrain from doing as such in the future, thank you.[/mod]

Edited by Zoeff, 25 April 2017 - 09:27 AM.






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