Mister Blastman, on 28 April 2017 - 06:43 AM, said:
I'm not ignorant, I'm enlightened!
Just because someone disagrees with your point of view does not make them ignorant. I see this term tossed around often by folks on a holy crusade of idealistic justice, that all beneath them are wrong. What makes someone wrong is facts that can be backed with evidence, and in this case, the facts support us coming out better than we were before with this new system they have implemented.
Pardon me, I have to put out a small fire. My hypocrisy meter just blew.
You are ignorant. Despite the fact that many have actually shown you the evidence you keep pretending that there is a "we" in this iteration. You keep pretending that everyone is being treated the same in the new iteration. Everyone is not being treated the same. And the galling part is that the unfair treatment for some is a direct result of you and others like you throwing a temper tantrum earlier because you couldn't understand how the first iteration was absolutely fair in its treatment of everyone.
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This isn't something that can simply be compared on a c-bill to c-bill basis, due to an XP and c-bill system being merged together.
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Before, you had to pay c-bills to get modules to obtain abilities such as radar derp and seismic. But you also had to pay a little bit of XP up front to unlock for one time only, depending on the module. It was a minimal amount of XP, nothing huge.
In the new system, we're given automatically all the XP (SP) we need to obtain all the abilities AND modules... for free. No c-bills. And we have all sorts of new abilities to pick and choose from, too.
For someone who doesn't like being called ignorant, you sure do spend a lot of time begging to be called it.
It isn't free for everyone. It's free for you because you aren't being required to sell back some of your current C-bill purchases. Others, like me, are faced with choosing between sacrificing all of our early module purchases for a resource that is literally of no value (massive GSP) or sell the modules back at a 50% markdown.
It's not that the new system doesn't benefit us, it's that we are being required to pay for those benefits while your hissy fit throwing rear doesn't.
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Once we're out of SP, we spend c-bills and XP to get SP, but for most, that won't be for a very long time, if ever again.
We win.
Some of us have already done the grind to earn those C-bills. We are being required to sacrifice 50% of them.
Why is it so hard for you to acknowledge that someone who owns hundreds of modules has already put in huge numbers of hours grinding C-bills? Your hours of grinding went into mechs/engines/upgrades/weapons but you aren't being required to sell any of it as we go into the new system.
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In the past, folks who spent disposable income on extra modules were accepting opportunity cost. The expenditure satisfied their desire to save time from swapping in order to simply click play. These were luxury goods. They were not essential products, as swapping could afford them more c-bills in the bank at the cost of a little bit of their time. So over the course of owning these modules, they enjoyed this advantage that they paid for.
Then why did you cry so hard at the first iteration? You were using the module swapping mechanic. It was a luxury good. It was not essential. You enjoyed that advantage. You should be willing to accept only 72 MSP on your mastered-modules mechs in the switch over. The other 19 nodes will cost you C-bills. That's the cost of that swapping luxury for you.
That is in fact what the first iteration was. Swapping module luxury was finally being paid for. You threw a fit.
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Now they get to keep the modules, like they had before -and- get half their money back.
How many stores can you walk into and say, "Yo, can I have my money back for this?" and they reply, "Sure, here's half, oh, and you can just keep the product. Enjoy." How many let you do this?
None.
The problem is that you are walking into the store right by our side and asking the clerk if you can have the same item off the shelf for free, and being told yes.
It's not that module buyers are losing some C-bills, it's that you cry babies are not having to pay the equivalent cost in order to enjoy the same benefit of owning modules for every single mech.
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This is essentially what is happening now. We all get modules for free. Why should we get a full refund for keeping the product?
Because we already paid for them and you didn't. It's not that we are being cheated, it's that we are being treated differently. The whined about "unfairness" in the first iteration was only imaginary. This one is measurable.
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We shouldn't. So instead, PGI compromised, and gave us SP which means we never have to grind again, or for a very long time, we no longer have to buy three of each chassis, no longer have to spend millions on modules or re-speccing our already mastered robits.
What they have done is fair and reasonable.
And the whiny cry babies like you will get benefits that you never earned. Your mechs in your hangar are not master+modules. Mine really are. If everyone gets this benefit, what have I earned with all the time I spent grinding to afford all those modules? Either you should have to sell back all of your C-bill, master-module mechs or I should be compensated for the full price of my modules. Those two choices would treat both of us the same. But, you will go on pretending that it is others who just can't see "the truth" of the situation.
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So color me ignorant? I have looked at all the facts and evidence. I'm anything but. I am enlightened.
Please don't toss around dangerous vocabulary until you understand exactly what it means. Have a nice day!
You looked at the facts and came up with master+modules is of the same value as master-modules? Enlightened is hardly the word I would choose. Deluded seems more apt.