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#1 Andros Markov

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Posted 01 May 2017 - 06:59 PM

I've been playing battletech from the time I was a small kid. (mind you I was born in 1985) But there are sooo many missing mechs that are cannon... Yes we're seeing alot of heavy hitting mechs and mechs that are somewhat ahead for where the time is at. So we've skipped the trial of annihilation of Smoke Jaguar, and the Trial of Refusal that happened on Strana Mechty after. BUT WE ARE MISSING DESIGNS that should be bread and butter designs. But the development team is doing what they can which I am happy about. But COME ON, if you can jump right to the FedCom Civil war with tech and mech designs you could at least give us the courtesy of having all the 2750/ 3025/ 3039/ 3050 mechs out. This isn't even talking about the modifications that pirahna has done on some of the designs. I mean the Maruader IIC looks like the Marauder II which outweighs it by 15 tons....... Or the fact that no matter what variant the Cicada is crap but you can make it a monster on MWO... Come on WE WANT MECH CONTINUITY with the FLUFF

We are currently missing

Ostscout
Flea
Hermes
Hermes 2
Firefly
Wasp
Valkyrie
Stinger
Vulcan
Firestarter
Wyvern
Watchman
Komodo
Hatchetman
Hatomoto-Chi
Charger
Dervish
Scorpion
Sentinel
Huron Warrior
Axman
Argus
Lancelot
Guillotine
Ostol
Ostroc
Champion
Crusader
Flashman
Shootist
Penetrator
Crossbow
Grand Titan
Goliath
Devastator
Gunslinger
Imp
Longbow
Thug
Spartan
Shogun
Sunder
Templar

AND SO MANY MORE

Then you have the issue of ghost heat which understandably is designed to keep the game balanced, but the fact it hinders clan mechs more than anything is outrageous. There are soooo many classic designs still missing but they are pushing forward with certain mechs and mech designs. With the Civil War pack coming out, Really Pirahna you should at least make sure you have everything out for 2750-3050 out in game before proceeding mech wise.

Thanks

#2 vandalhooch

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Posted 01 May 2017 - 07:01 PM

Firestarter is missing?

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Posted 01 May 2017 - 07:08 PM

You're missing Maelstrom and Hollander.

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Posted 01 May 2017 - 07:29 PM

I think we can all argue about that "bread and butter"-part... Posted Image

It is, however, true that the new era opens more possibilities for PGI and thus some of the older designs might be ignored although they could have made it into the game had it not been for the timejump. One of my favourites is the Excalibur, and after the timejump I doubt we will ever see it. Also the Nightstar, an excellent Mech, has much greater competition now. So yes, I get your point.

I would not fear though. PGI does not seem to take this "Civil War"-stuff too serious. After all their so-called "Civil War Pack" managed to give the IS two Mechs which had little to no part in the FCCW. Neither Uziel nor Annihilator are even mentioned in FCCW stories or RATs. (Well, perhaps PGI means the Dragoon Civil War - in that case, the Annihilator makes sense...)

In the end, you may get your Mechs. It is just that the competition is tougher now.

Edited by FLG 01, 01 May 2017 - 07:34 PM.


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Posted 01 May 2017 - 09:13 PM

There's only so many mechs they can put out. And they want to go for maximum popularity. Weren't the Uziel and Annihilator at the top of some poll for mechs? And people were posting threads asking for the Mad Cat II every so often.

Maybe they'll stick to the Civil War pack format. 2 mech packs for each faction. That would help with filling out the mech rosters.

Edited by MechaBattler, 01 May 2017 - 09:13 PM.


#6 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 01 May 2017 - 09:14 PM

THE SCORPION IS MISSING!

Who cares 'bout the rest?!

I'd like a Vulcan too.

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Posted 01 May 2017 - 09:30 PM

Yeah there's tons of missing designs but it's just not realistic to expect or hope for them all. I've been campaigning for over a year for the Nightstar but I'd be lying if I wasn't worried.

I just hope we can get some stronger mechs on the IS side that match up with the Clans.

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Posted 01 May 2017 - 09:43 PM

If you want lore this is not the game for you. Try instead the upcoming Battletech game by Harebrained Schemes.

On the bright side the in house art team for MWO is providing the mech designs for two upcoming pre-Clan games so if nothing else the designs will be reimported back into MWO for if nothing else to utilize work already completed.

Edited by Spheroid, 01 May 2017 - 09:47 PM.


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Posted 01 May 2017 - 09:48 PM

You can forget about quads and mechs with melee weapons, as those require implementing some rather big features which PGI is never likely to do.

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Posted 01 May 2017 - 09:50 PM

We have plenty of Mechs.

We need more maps, and added depth in FP.

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 01:05 AM

View Postvandalhooch, on 01 May 2017 - 07:01 PM, said:

Firestarter is missing?

Ummm we have the firestarter, this post might be more of a sarcastic post than an actual one so I'm not sure you really want to add it to the list, I think some people might believe it's true. Also I noticed you didn't have any clan 20 tonners like the fire moth, piranha or howler, it's a gap I'm sure many people want filled.

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 01:11 AM

1985? thats young....

#13 Vellron2005

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 01:24 AM

Let me just say that we have well over 70 chassis in this game..

When is it enough?!

70 chassis and same 10 maps..

Time to prioritize I think?

How about we stop making mech packs and start making MAPS?!

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 01:36 AM

Urbanmech IIC is missing too.

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 01:38 AM

View Postvandalhooch, on 01 May 2017 - 07:01 PM, said:

Firestarter is missing?


He might mean the OmniMech.

Anyway, every second the following 'Mechs and variants are not in MWO is an offense to Blake and Man.

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 01:58 AM

View PostAndros Markov, on 01 May 2017 - 06:59 PM, said:

I've been playing battletech from the time I was a small kid. (mind you I was born in 1985) But there are sooo many missing mechs that are cannon... Yes we're seeing alot of heavy hitting mechs and mechs that are somewhat ahead for where the time is at. So we've skipped the trial of annihilation of Smoke Jaguar, and the Trial of Refusal that happened on Strana Mechty after. BUT WE ARE MISSING DESIGNS that should be bread and butter designs. But the development team is doing what they can which I am happy about. But COME ON, if you can jump right to the FedCom Civil war with tech and mech designs you could at least give us the courtesy of having all the 2750/ 3025/ 3039/ 3050 mechs out. This isn't even talking about the modifications that pirahna has done on some of the designs. I mean the Maruader IIC looks like the Marauder II which outweighs it by 15 tons....... Or the fact that no matter what variant the Cicada is crap but you can make it a monster on MWO... Come on WE WANT MECH CONTINUITY with the FLUFF

We are currently missing

Ostscout
Flea
Hermes
Hermes 2
Firefly
Wasp
Valkyrie
Stinger
Vulcan
Firestarter
Wyvern
Watchman
Komodo
Hatchetman
Hatomoto-Chi
Charger
Dervish
Scorpion
Sentinel
Huron Warrior
Axman
Argus
Lancelot
Guillotine
Ostol
Ostroc
Champion
Crusader
Flashman
Shootist
Penetrator
Crossbow
Grand Titan
Goliath
Devastator
Gunslinger
Imp
Longbow
Thug
Spartan
Shogun
Sunder
Templar

AND SO MANY MORE

Then you have the issue of ghost heat which understandably is designed to keep the game balanced, but the fact it hinders clan mechs more than anything is outrageous. There are soooo many classic designs still missing but they are pushing forward with certain mechs and mech designs. With the Civil War pack coming out, Really Pirahna you should at least make sure you have everything out for 2750-3050 out in game before proceeding mech wise.

Thanks


I'd rather see some of the earlier mechs as well.

Tbf though, it's fairly obvious that the timeline jump and introducing "new" is basically just a move to get people to part with their cash. It's pretty much clan mechs release all over again.

They're milking what they can while there are still players left, basically.

Edited by NextGame, 02 May 2017 - 02:00 AM.


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Posted 02 May 2017 - 04:57 PM

View PostStealthdragonB, on 02 May 2017 - 01:05 AM, said:

Ummm we have the firestarter,


Not according to the OP. Check his list of "missing" mechs.

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this post might be more of a sarcastic post than an actual one so I'm not sure you really want to add it to the list, I think some people might believe it's true. Also I noticed you didn't have any clan 20 tonners like the fire moth, piranha or howler, it's a gap I'm sure many people want filled.


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Posted 02 May 2017 - 05:02 PM

View PostCycKath, on 02 May 2017 - 01:38 AM, said:


He might mean the OmniMech.


Doubt it. He didn't mention the Centurion or Blackjack. Why include the Firestarter Omnimech and not the other two ominmech rebuilds? Also, no mention of the other original IS omnimechs like the Raptor, Sunder and Owens.

Looks like he just failed to catch the mistake of including an existing mech in his "missing mech" list.

No harm really. Just thought it was a funny mistake to make.

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Anyway, every second the following 'Mechs and variants are not in MWO is an offense to Blake and Man.



Edit: Personally, I just want the Stinger, Wasp and Crusader in order to complete the original mech set (2nd edition) I remember growing up with.

Edited by vandalhooch, 02 May 2017 - 05:14 PM.


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Posted 02 May 2017 - 05:04 PM

Right, lets go right to the "END IS NEAR" proficies.

either way, a good mix of old and new would add a lot to this game IMO. Neither the "GET ALL OF 3025 MECHS IN BEFORE ANOTHER SINGLE 3060+ DESIGN" or the "FORGET THE OLD IN WITH ONLY THE NEW"

However with that said, I do expect the next 4 mechs to hit more on the 3058+ TRO's cause selling point of the civil war. Hopefully we go to a mix though after that.

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Posted 03 May 2017 - 02:13 AM

View PostCK16, on 02 May 2017 - 05:04 PM, said:

However with that said, I do expect the next 4 mechs to hit more on the 3058+ TRO's cause selling point of the civil war. Hopefully we go to a mix though after that.


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