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[metallio]

PeeWrinkle, on 05 May 2017 - 07:07 AM, said:

I am trying to decide who to align with and really just want to be able to drop in a reasonable amount of time and have at least a 40% chance at victory.

It's just not going to happen. Very early on you'll have decent chances to win as IS because the playing field will be flooded with newbies on both sides...so chain play IS early and cram as many games as possible in before people get tired of getting gamed.

...or just don't worry about wins, get your free stuff, and walk away. It's CW/FP. The biggest steaming pile of horse hockey I've ever seen in the internet gaming world. Bigger @sshats on the net? yeah, there are worse places for trash talking. More complex games with comp play squishing new players worse? Yeah, they're out there.

...but is there a worse combination of "can't even get a game" with "ridiculous practical differences between sides" and "jerkoffs enjoying being d!cks so much they lose their minds" tossed on top of "game makers have no idea wtf they're doing" along with "high cost for premium play"...I don't think so. The only benefit here is that the high dollar costs are avoidable if you never buy any of the new mechs or very few interesting things in the whole game like decals and camo. It's nice and makes the game actually FTP but bleh...and CW/FP is a flipping joke. The last iteration at least raised it from "pond scum" to "evolved pond scum that longs to be something it's not" but just bleh.

I'm really not sure I can stomach that much faction play even with the rewards that are generated. If there are enough people playing, maybe...but I'm going to stick to my IS roots, and I'm not sure I'll be able to stand the kicking I'm going to get from the clans long enough to make some MC.

[Warning incoming Humble Dexterer]

I'm planning to disband my clan mercenary unit at the end of it's next contract, to go join a clan loyal unit, during or after this event is over.

Which unit would then count for this event : The mercenary unit where I will have played most of my matches, or the loyal unit because the mercenary unit was disbanded ?

And which clan would count for this event : The mercenary contract's clan where I will have played most of my matches, or the loyal unit's clan for whatever reason I can't think of.

Basically I want to finish collecting points for a mercenary rank before I go join a clan loyal unit, and I don't know if I should avoid making that switch during this event, and if I should select the best paid clan mercenary contract, or select the mercenary contract of the same clan as the unit I plan to join.

My main concern is probably to avoid losing out on the Personal Challenge, by triggering a time penalty that would prevent me from playing faction games.

Like if I switch my current unit to a clan loyal unit so I can continue playing this event without triggering a new 7 day mercenary contract, then switch myself to a another loyal unit of the same clan as soon as it is willing to recruit me, would I suffer some kind of 10 match or 7 day penalty for switching from one loyal unit to another loyal unit from the same clan ?

Would even disbanding my mercenary unit (with no ongoing contract), be enough to trigger a time penalty excluding me from faction play ?

Edited by Humble Dexter, 05 May 2017 - 07:57 AM.

[Felix von Buelow]

Peiper, on 05 May 2017 - 02:54 AM, said:

You are brilliant. I'll give you props on this one.


But man, your response is A+++!

Anytime ;-)

[sbogo]

CadoAzazel, on 04 May 2017 - 06:06 PM, said:

TO EVERYONE ASKING FOR
CONTRACT RESET


Sorry but IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN for multiple reasons.
1. YOU WERE WARNED AT THE END OF THE LAST EVENT ON THESE ACTUAL FORUMS !!!! (NOT JUST ON TWITTER(WHERE WE WERE ALSO WARNED)) SO THEIRS NO EXCUSE NOT TO BE THE FACTION YOUR LOYALTIES LIE WITH, HELL I'VE BEEN SITTING IN MY LOYALTY FACTION SINCE THE CIVIL WAR STEINER/DAVION IMAGES EXPECTING A FACTION PLAY RELATED CIVIL WAR EVENT. FORUM WARNING OF THIS EVENT SHOWN BELOW.


2. PGI Probably dont have the in game capability to reset it.
3. Theres a lot of decent units IS side atm and PGI wants to keep them there at least for the start of the event.
4. Im sure theres more but sorry your stuck where you are until your contract expires.



^what he said.



Not sure if im laughing smirking or a tear is rolling down my cheek in sympathy. Your Liao Cbill bonus greed hath proved costly, at least you will be able to go wolf for the last 3-4 days.





How you were not aware of the upcoming A9 and did not prepare for it with the amount you frequent the forums, you should have been sitting in your preferred faction since the Steiner/davion civil war images went up. It's no ones fault people are in the wrong faction except their greed. We were warned plenty.



Yes deserter will still count for whatever faction you are deserting until the desertion ends, just your cbill income due to the penatly is going to SUCK, because a FEW (5%?) people who play a LOT could mech bay tour lvl 6 in every faction for 20 odd mech bays PGI decided to punish all the more casual and more likely to part with real money players by making it harder to mech bay tour (on one account)... one of pgi's "smarter moments".... I sympathise your predicament, hopefully you will be able to play a lot in the 2nd weekend when your desertion will be over.





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Hope I have explained why they cant help you. Enjoy helping IS, theres a lot of good units on TS you can drop with. Least you can Wolf the last few days.




I Wish the Faction Warhorns were based on some metric of activity of EVERY member in the unit, Since I am my entire unit dont think I can get one, Any wolves want to join - Single Minded Zeal - for the event see if we can get 3rd on the contribution board behind CWI and that other one i forget the name of ? =p =)

I was on the reset contracts side until I saw your enormous text size and .gifs. Actually, I think I forgot what I was here for halfway through the wall of garbage you posted.

[James Argent]

It is telling that not a single one of the contract release requests is asking to switch from Clan to IS. Had there been a less one-sided distribution, there may have been more sympathy for the requests. But the way things are now, it looks a lot like grasping at lore only when it's convenient...however intricate the reasoning may be.

I'm the unofficial event manager for my unit. I'm the one who informs the unit of upcoming events, and I'm the one who keeps track of what the event objectives are while we're playing. But I don't have the authority to set contracts. The evening when it was announced that the next event would involve only FP, I told those who set the contracts to keep this in mind, and I checked with them again once the specifics were announced to ensure we were on the side we wanted.

There was sufficient warning and plenty of time for all merc units on short contracts (and since there's hardly any reason to go longer, that should cover almost all of them) to sign up to fight for the faction they preferred in this event. All it took was for any single person in the unit to pay attention and run the intel up the chain. Lack of planning does not equal extenuating circumstances.

[D V Devnull]

Okay, , you have badly misread me.

CadoAzazel, on 05 May 2017 - 06:03 AM, said:

I have OCD and Premium time is bad for my health

I'm not talking about things like an individual's health, although I'm sure those are some things that are probably needing consideration. I'm thinking more about things like a person's family needing to not be mindlessly ignored. I'm thinking about Real Lives that people need to still live during the course of an Event. I'll be on as often as I can safely be, but slamming people with "7 Days Active Premium Time" and trying to force them to play to not have that boost slip away is an utter insult to many in the MWO Community. I've got family members who are upset at me because these Active Premium Time boosts lock me into the game when I shouldn't be. Worse, I'm sure many people are in the same bloody boat in regard to these issues, and really need PGI to quit failing to provide an option which avoids this exact huge problem. (I've already suggested a fix previously. Maybe somebody would like Mech Bays, or a Color or two, or even some Decals, but is angered just as I am over the Active Premium Time, so getting an (MC) chunk of equivalent size instead should be an option.) Frankly, if PGI keeps this up, they're going to lose players over trying to push themselves in those players' collective faces. Don't even get me started on the Bad Public Relations that would generate, or the ultimate loss of Real $$$ to PGI's Income, or even the reverting of "MechWarrior/BattleTech"-based things to being a niche item.

CadoAzazel, on 05 May 2017 - 06:03 AM, said:

I would love more chance to get on the contributing units to the faction list for the warhorns, but I am a loyalist unit of one =(

I'm not talking about the Faction-Specific War Horns that would have required being a Top Unit. I'm instead talking about those 'ComStar'/'Clan Dagger' War Horns that were possible to earn back in "Tukayyid 2" along the chain of Personal Challenges. I would think someone would find it nice and helpful to get another from the "Tukayyid 3" Event, based on if you went I.S. or Clan?

CadoAzazel, on 05 May 2017 - 06:03 AM, said:

and have made peace with the fact I will be unable to get that gift, but I am grateful for all the other gifts I am about to recieve.

Hey, I'm appreciative to get what I can, as well. I'm just one of those people who was trying to help PGI make "Tukayyid 3" live up to the 'Bar' that was set by "Tukayyid 2". You know... Hope and Optimism, instead of Doubt and Pessimism... and therefore trying to give PGI a chance instead of depressively living with the situation. I'm guessing this concept is new to you?


~Mr. D. V. "Maybe you understand my Point-Of-View better now?" Devnull

[Archie4Strings]

To all the complaining Mercs:
Just stop it! You are Mercenaries and you "signed for contracts". Thats what you do! And now is the event, so you fight for the side which "pays" you in this moment. Period.

Why should there be any reason for you to reset the contracts? Do we loyalists get a chance to reset our loyality? No!
Same with you! You can still change it, but not just as you want it.

FP is dominated by wherever the 2 or 3 big merc-Units are, this ist not what FP was meant for. I am really thankfull that PGI both faction just go with whoever is on their side. And if Clans lose, cause IS got the better Merc-Units, well, thatsfine to me.
If Clans win (even if it is because we got more/better Mercs), well, thats fine, too!

You know what? Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Thats what happens. But complaining like whiny little kids is not apropriate for the MWO-Community. This is not League of Legends. This is the mothaf***** bloody and steelraining 31. Century! So get your balls together and just fight for your side!!!

Edited by Archie4Strings, 05 May 2017 - 10:08 AM.

[KrocodockleTheBooBoxLoader-GetIn]

I hope there is an associated faction content sale with this event.

[Felicitatem Parco]

Archie4Strings, on 05 May 2017 - 10:07 AM, said:

To all the complaining Mercs:
Just stop it! You are Mercenaries and you "signed for contracts". Thats what you do! And now is the event, so you fight for the side which "pays" you in this moment. Period.

Why should there be any reason for you to reset the contracts? Do we loyalists get a chance to reset our loyality? No!
Same with you! You can still change it, but not just as you want it.

FP is dominated by wherever the 2 or 3 big merc-Units are, this ist not what FP was meant for. I am really thankfull that PGI both faction just go with whoever is on their side. And if Clans lose, cause IS got the better Merc-Units, well, thatsfine to me.
If Clans win (even if it is because we got more/better Mercs), well, thats fine, too!

You know what? Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Thats what happens. But complaining like whiny little kids is not apropriate for the MWO-Community. This is not League of Legends. This is the mothaf***** bloody and steelraining 31. Century! So get your balls together and just fight for your side!!!

Good point!!

I want to see EVERY SINGLE PERSON asking for a Mercenary ci tract reset also ask PGI to let all Loyalists change their Faction and transfer their loyalty points over, too.

Come on, now.

[ThatGuy539]

I'm havin waffles!
Just thought everyone should know. Because...waffles are great.


I'll be going IS this time.
I was clan for one, and IS for the other two BoT events.

I don't much care what faction I play for, I'm just here for the waffles...I'm mean event rewards. And stompy mechs shooting each other....that too.

[Luscious Dan]

D V Devnull, on 05 May 2017 - 09:48 AM, said:

Okay, , you have badly misread me.

I'm not talking about things like an individual's health, although I'm sure those are some things that are probably needing consideration. I'm thinking more about things like a person's family needing to not be mindlessly ignored. I'm thinking about Real Lives that people need to still live during the course of an Event. I'll be on as often as I can safely be, but slamming people with "7 Days Active Premium Time" and trying to force them to play to not have that boost slip away is an utter insult to many in the MWO Community. I've got family members who are upset at me because these Active Premium Time boosts lock me into the game when I shouldn't be. Worse, I'm sure many people are in the same bloody boat in regard to these issues, and really need PGI to quit failing to provide an option which avoids this exact huge problem. (I've already suggested a fix previously. Maybe somebody would like Mech Bays, or a Color or two, or even some Decals, but is angered just as I am over the Active Premium Time, so getting an (MC) chunk of equivalent size instead should be an option.) Frankly, if PGI keeps this up, they're going to lose players over trying to push themselves in those players' collective faces. Don't even get me started on the Bad Public Relations that would generate, or the ultimate loss of Real $$$ to PGI's Income, or even the reverting of "MechWarrior/BattleTech"-based things to being a niche item.

It honestly sounds like you might have a problem with this game. If you are feeling yourself compelled to play when it's affecting the rest of your life negatively, I have to wonder if you have some an addictive personality or something else going on. It might not be in your best interest to keep playing, especially during events, if it's potentially going to cause serious issues in your family life. No video game is worth those kinds of sacrificies.

I know we don't always see eye to eye on things, but as someone who spent a lot of years training to be a therapist/clinical psychologist I have to suggest maybe it's worth thinking about having a talk with a therapist or counselor of some kind to see if there's a way to help you find the balance between gaming and other priorities. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy is a favorite of mine for many reasons, not just because it shares an acronym with (Classic) BattleTech It is a good tool you can use in many real life situations, even if there's no mental illness issues going on. And best of all, it's not the kind of treatment that forces you to go for the rest of your life, or take a handful of pills every day. I believe a good therapist is the one who tries to put him- or herself out of business, not one who is content to have "repeat customers" who don't get better.

Anyway, I did not expect to be typing a post like this on MWO forums, but I'm passionate about mental health. There's no shame or judgment involved from me here, just a genuine concern for a fellow gamer's wellbeing.

[ViridianKnight]

Reset all contracts, than all join Clan Ghostbear, then wait for ghostdropp-wins^^.

[Yumoshiri]

D V Devnull, on 05 May 2017 - 09:48 AM, said:

Okay, , you have badly misread me.

I'm not talking about things like an individual's health, although I'm sure those are some things that are probably needing consideration. I'm thinking more about things like a person's family needing to not be mindlessly ignored. I'm thinking about Real Lives that people need to still live during the course of an Event. I'll be on as often as I can safely be, but slamming people with "7 Days Active Premium Time" and trying to force them to play to not have that boost slip away is an utter insult to many in the MWO Community. I've got family members who are upset at me because these Active Premium Time boosts lock me into the game when I shouldn't be. Worse, I'm sure many people are in the same bloody boat in regard to these issues, and really need PGI to quit failing to provide an option which avoids this exact huge problem. (I've already suggested a fix previously. Maybe somebody would like Mech Bays, or a Color or two, or even some Decals, but is angered just as I am over the Active Premium Time, so getting an (MC) chunk of equivalent size instead should be an option.) Frankly, if PGI keeps this up, they're going to lose players over trying to push themselves in those players' collective faces. Don't even get me started on the Bad Public Relations that would generate, or the ultimate loss of Real $$$ to PGI's Income, or even the reverting of "MechWarrior/BattleTech"-based things to being a niche item.

don't ask a drugdealer about rehab, mkay? second, i don't think event designers have to consider all special snow-flakes in the community. it's like saying christmas events should be banned because it's religious. some enjoy the event during their holidays, some don't, and if you don't then just pass along.

[Commander A9]

Hey, it's all good!

The only day that matters for deciding control of the planet is the last day! XD

Just like the last two battles!

[Arkhangel]

well, from what i've seen of this, it's about.. 90% "Waaaaahhhh! I want to be on the winning side! let me change my contract!"

[Commander A9]

Hey, I sympathize with anyone with the misfortune of having been uninformed by PGI's glorious advertising department that this event was coming, and then being unable to make the fully informed decision of which side to pick in time.

...why the hell did we see no notice whatsoever of this event until day-prior on their forums?

[Dracol]

Commander A9, on 05 May 2017 - 01:59 PM, said:

Hey, I sympathize with anyone with the misfortune of having been uninformed by PGI's glorious advertising department that this event was coming, and then being unable to make the fully informed decision of which side to pick in time.

...why the hell did we see no notice whatsoever of this event until day-prior on their forums?

To try to avoid the same outcome that would happen if PGI granted contract reset with no penalty: lopsided distribution of skilled/large merc units.

[NocturnalBeast]

Dracol, on 05 May 2017 - 02:39 PM, said:

To try to avoid the same outcome that would happen if PGI granted contract reset with no penalty: lopsided distribution of skilled/large merc units.

You mean that all the top-tier mercs would join Jade Falcon again (or whatever faction was farther ahead).

[Sky Hawk]

Commander A9, on 05 May 2017 - 01:59 PM, said:

...why the hell did we see no notice whatsoever of this event until day-prior on their forums?

It's PGI's plan.. If you don't know about the event, you can't complaine during the week..

(Actually, there was a little blinking line-thing in the main forum page.. a link to a video.. whatever..)

[SilentFenris]

My first match of the event...https://youtu.be/MSihkcFwZzM

Kind of a "bend over and grab your ankles" match.