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[Commander A9]

*sighs at finding himself once again repeating the phrase 'Teamwork is overpowered-deal with it.'*

[nehebkau]

Commander A9, on 06 May 2017 - 10:58 AM, said:

*sighs at finding himself once again repeating the phrase 'Teamwork is overpowered-deal with it.'*

Same frigging argument over and over and over. People just don't want to admit that scrub-mechs and no planning = ROTFLOLSTOMP.

Every time is see a "Clans OP" "Quirks OP" thread i just want to reach through the monitor and smack someone on the back of their head.

Edited by nehebkau, 06 May 2017 - 12:03 PM.

[Codpond]

Is the truth that greater numbers of IS players are garbage than clan players? like for every 1 bad clan player there are 2 bad IS players?

I mean I have lost 1 game so far... one game. That was one of the ones with Ash (mixbag). It is crazy to see the 100% clan win bar when I know I have lost only 1 game to them.

[xX PUG Xx]

So is anyone going to jump on the fact that as of 00:30 BST, the IS has dragged it back to only 10% in favour of Clans?

Where's the "Clans are OP" guff now?

[nehebkau]

xX PUG Xx, on 07 May 2017 - 03:41 PM, said:

So is anyone going to jump on the fact that as of 00:30 BST, the IS has dragged it back to only 10% in favour of Clans?

Where's the "Clans are OP" guff now?

don't get them started, please.

[DarklightCA]

Clan XL's are awesome, the ability to pack more firepower without dieing from losing a torso is super good. Night Gyr's are great for Faction Play because they are good on any map and condition. These aren't the reason why IS is getting creamed though.

IS is packed full of soloist players that rotate around the tier 4-5 rankings, bring stupid builds, pack their mechs full of XL engines but don't torso twist. You can have a IS 12 man unit winning 100% of their matches it wouldn't matter because for every game they win, those IS players are losing 5.

The fact IS is at 40% right now is huge.

[naterist]

honostly, at this point im just playing to get in my rewards and do the qp maps and modes. once it gets to siege im just switching to scouting to keep my numbers up and so those clan ******** can ghost drop to victory and get their just dues for dog-piling one side.

[Vellron2005]

BoBo Jones, on 06 May 2017 - 04:04 AM, said:

First day of the battle . clan are trashing inner spire . This is bullcrap . who didnt see this happening . clan get better mechs , better weapons , better equipment . but inner sphire cheap mech costs have no impact , inner spire outnumber clan has no effect , inner spire tactics vs clan honour has no effect . all the advantages are in the clans favor .
in my mind there is no point playing faction play as inner spire . im going back to quick play .

I wholeheartedly disagree with this.. and let me tell you why..

I was watching my GF drop last night.. she's stuck in an IS Marik contract like many others.. so she dropped IS attack on Boreal..

The IS people She dropped with LITERALLY did not know how to open the gate and were shooting at the door itself.. Then, when she opened the door for them, went just inside the gate, stopped and tried to shoot at mechs.. They did not take cover, did not focus fire, did not try to gen rush.. nothing.. just stood there and tried to fire for 10 seconds before ERLL and gauss fire cut them down..

So yeah.. Clan mechs not OP.. Clan Players OP

BoBo Jones, on 06 May 2017 - 04:04 AM, said:

First day of the battle . clan are trashing inner spire .

Oh GOD, and he's wondering why we're kicking his ***, doesn't even know how to spell it right.. its Inner Sphere

Edited by Vellron2005, 08 May 2017 - 02:15 AM.

[Willard Phule]

xX PUG Xx, on 07 May 2017 - 03:41 PM, said:

So is anyone going to jump on the fact that as of 00:30 BST, the IS has dragged it back to only 10% in favour of Clans?

Where's the "Clans are OP" guff now?

Dude, considering the horrible connection problems where the organized 12 man groups are failing to drop....coupled with the fact that IS terribads seem to be worse than the Clan terribads....this is what you end up with.

This is NOT a good measurement of balance. Not in the slightest.

[Admiral-Dan]

BoBo Jones, on 06 May 2017 - 04:04 AM, said:

but inner sphire cheap mech costs have no impact

Quite the contrary Inner Sphere cheap mech costs have a big impact, because of the cheap IS Mech many new and casual gamers chose IS. Which is a big handicap for the IS in events like these.

[Bjorn Coston]

Don't think it's an argument on tech. My friend's list is primarily Clan as of right meow. Pretty sure it's a simple case of the majority of the skill players and units stacking one faction or the other. That's how it usually goes, it's a fairly continuous cycle. Can't see many people being surprised by this.

[Xannatharr]

Bjorn Bekker, on 08 May 2017 - 12:03 PM, said:

as of right meow.

I see what you did there, well-played sir!

Xann

[xX PUG Xx]

Bjorn Bekker, on 08 May 2017 - 12:03 PM, said:

Don't think it's an argument on tech. My friend's list is primarily Clan as of right meow. Pretty sure it's a simple case of the majority of the skill players and units stacking one faction or the other. That's how it usually goes, it's a fairly continuous cycle. Can't see many people being surprised by this.

Sorry Bjorn but I'm going to disagree with you on that one. Take a look at the leaderboards and tell me that none of those units qualify as either big or skilled (IDI doesn't count, we're just chaos incarnate and if we don't know what we're doing the enemy can't counter it ).

228, EVIL, ZMOM, NS, 12DG, SROT, 54MR, MM, CBR1 to name but a few are up there and you'd say that all of these guys are unskilled?

In my opinion the simple fact is that the majority of new players seem to gravitate to IS 'Mechs because of the cheaper initial purchase price, then they realise that to make this 'Mech competitive against Clan 'Mechs they have to spend the difference in purchase prices (and sometimes more) on upgrades. This is one of my bug bears about the new player experience in this game, the lack of information IN-GAME for them to actually base decisions on but I digress..... IMO the IS is losing due to the larger number of ill prepared pilots and their attendant 'Mechs.

But it ain't gonna stop me from enjoying myself

Edited by xX PUG Xx, 09 May 2017 - 01:57 PM.

[Alderann]

We've got some top-notch Units on both side and a LOT of pugs too... I think the question the real question is : why do we have so many "average" teams within clanners and not within IS.

The answer maybe coming from a natural attraction for the 'bad boys' side, or something regarding the 'so said' superiority of clan weaponnery over IS. Personnaly, I have to say I've seen 12DG and other IS units salughtering clanners often enough to consider that victory is much more a manner of skills than the side you choosed;

Now, all i have to say is : let's form groups, organize ourselves efficiently and go kick some ***. I'm not a good player, but I know coordinated company is key. I have even seen some bunch of pugs win against well known units as they get them disorganized. So, everythings possible it seems !

[DerHenker]

clans give this game a pay to win feeling as a IS

[Black Ivan]

Clans are at 100 % again, just to say.

[Damnedtroll]

Are some clan team ghost dropping because of the size of players base ?? Do ghost drop still exist?

Edited by Damnedtroll, 09 May 2017 - 10:02 AM.

[naterist]

Damnedtroll, on 09 May 2017 - 09:58 AM, said:

Are some clan team ghost dropping because of the size of players base ?? Do ghost drop still exist?

I havent ghost dropped since december.... so.... i doubt it? Unless your clan, then ya, theyre totally still a thing.

[Damnedtroll]

If no Clan team ghost drop... we don't have a player base problem but more a pugish problem...

Edited by Damnedtroll, 09 May 2017 - 10:15 AM.

[AssaultPig]

haven't had a ghost drop yet, though I've had to wait a few minutes in the lobby a couple times

the problem with the tug of war mechanic is that it takes a relatively small positive winrate to peg the thing at 100% one way; if one side is winning 55% of their games that's more than enough to keep the meter at 80-100% to their side, as we have seen.