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[Scytale]

Leodegrance, on 30 July 2012 - 06:11 AM, said:

In hatred order: Steiner, and Liao.

I don't like Steiner because I believe in the MechWarrior 4 games, Steiner was depicted as the bad guys you were up against, at least in the Black Knight Expansion it was, and I believe it was the same thing in Mech Commander 2. The Mercenaries game I also think Steiner was the bad guy, but then again, you could choose whether to side with Davion or Steiner.

Don't like Liao because in Mercenaries, they invade Styk AND most importantly in Mech Commander 2, the Mandrissa's son...Jason, betrayed the mercenaries and joined with House Steiner to form their alliance.....and then they tried to eradicate the mercenaries. Thank you for your Cyclops, Jason.

The reason Steiner was bad in the MW4 games was because a) it was set during the FedCom civil war, and Davion is never bad, so Steiner must be =P Besides, Katrina is highly unpleasant.

Going on MC2 alone, I would actually think Liao was pretty cool - it had the atmosphere and everything - but I dislike both Romano and Sun-Tzu, so no dice for me there.

(Davion is *always*, or very nearly so, depicted as the good guys in BT. I would have joined them otherwise.)

EDIT: Just got rid of repeated part of post

Edited by Scytale, 31 July 2012 - 04:10 PM.

[Zwag78]

Definately Steiner. Katherine was a royal b. I've always seen the Kuritans to be very underhanded as well.

[CDLord HHGD]

Liao! Down with Max and Romano!

[Kiahoga]

Zwag78, on 31 July 2012 - 10:42 AM, said:

Definately Steiner. Katherine was a royal b. I've always seen the Kuritans to be very underhanded as well.

Yeah Katherine was scum and I find it truly ironic that when she finnaly dies it at the hands of her own son.

[Leodegrance]

Scytale, on 30 July 2012 - 03:08 PM, said:

The reason Steiner was bad in the MW4 games was because a) it was set during the FedCom civil war, and Davion is never bad, so Steiner must be =P Besides, Katrina is highly unpleasant.

Going on MC2 alone, I would actually think Liao was pretty cool - it had the atmosphere and everything - but I dislike both Romano and Sun-Tzu, so no dice for me there.

(Davion is *always*, or very nearly so, depicted as the good guys in BT. I would have joined them otherwise.)

Oh yeah I totally forgot about the FedCom lol that would explain everything. But also in most of the other games, your final enemy you fought was Steiner, and occasionally you fought Liao.

[Scytale]

Leodegrance, on 31 July 2012 - 02:09 PM, said:

Oh yeah I totally forgot about the FedCom lol that would explain everything. But also in most of the other games, your final enemy you fought was Steiner, and occasionally you fought Liao.

(Soz just for the record, MC2 was also set in the FedCom Civil War, but localized to one planet in the same sense Vengeance was. Don't know about MW2 Mercs though)

[Devlin Davion]

House Liao

[Chunkymonkey]

DEATH TO SUN TZU, THE TRUE CHANCELLOR IS KAI ALLARD-LIAO


So it depends since St Ives is basically Capellan but i dont like the regular ones.

[Scytale]

Chunkymonkey, on 31 July 2012 - 07:34 PM, said:

DEATH TO SUN TZU, THE TRUE CHANCELLOR IS KAI ALLARD-LIAO


So it depends since St Ives is basically Capellan but i dont like the regular ones.

I think when you say the Capellans people would generally understand you don't mean St Ives =P They're worlds apart, pardon the pun. That was a terrible pun. You might even say it was a worldwide punomenon, as tvtropes would put it.

[Sleeping Bear]

My eternal in-game enmity belongs not to a house, but to a faction. Yes my friends, I am referring to the monstrosity that is COMSTAR. ComStar, and later on to great extent The Word of Blake are easily described in one word, diabolical. Not content with their original mission of preserving advanced technology, ComStar and later WoB fanatics would actually destroy technologies, erase data, and assassinate those with knowledge of advanced technology. Lostech came into common usage because of ComStar. But wait you say, doesn't ComStar preserve that technology? Yes, and no. ComStar never restored technology once lost, they kept it hidden and to themselves. So my hate all lies with ComStar and later The Word of Blake. How an organization with such noble goals could be so utterly corrupted is beyond me.

[Zwag78]

Sleeping bear wins. He's totally right. Plus the Word Of Blake instigated the Jihad. Bad bad people...

[Imagine Dragons]

Bloodweaver, on 21 July 2012 - 06:06 PM, said:

Davion - because they're the canon-armored supremely perfect heroes.

Caleb Davion
Because being insane and comiting rape is the definition of "perfect hero"

Yeeeaaaaaahhhh....

Edited by XenomorphZZ, 01 August 2012 - 08:44 AM.

[Alric Strife]

a toss up between liao and stiener for me on the one hand liaos future are inbred on the other katrina stieners a i dont think theres a word that best fits her that is forum appropriate. draks have there moments though they basically are samurai and most samurai have honor of a sort. but the liao are too into cloakd and dagger and backstabbing for me

[Balls of Steele]

XenomorphZZ, on 01 August 2012 - 08:41 AM, said:

Caleb Davion
Because being insane and comiting rape is the definition of "perfect hero"

Yeeeaaaaaahhhh....

It should be noted that the current custodians of CBT at Catalyst are not keen on Davion's deification at all.

[prastagus]

Cap Fed was first introduced to Davion pirates on behalf of Sarna Supremists. Then Davion influenced Marik to attack Cap Fed. Thoughout the centuries, the Davion attacked and conquered Cap Fed lands which forced Cap Fed to produce leaders like Franco Liao who ended democracy of Cap Fed due to continous non-stopping Davion attacks on it. Centuries of warfare of Davion and Marik on Cap Fed produced later leaders such as Maximillian and Romanao and then Sun-Tzu Liao. Don't make them out to be villians as Davion's bloody hands had prop up and made them the way they are. In the more recent history, Danai Liao-Centrella's experience at the hands of Caleb Davion (sickness indeed on multiple levels) is a prime example of House of Davion's past, present, and future relations between Cap Fed and FC.

For St Ives Compact, Candice seceding due to transition leadership problems and then leap into the hands of Cap Fed's enemy Davion who still was attacking Cap Fed. This is treason and in doing so also made her own father insane. So this is not just business but personal for House of Liao. Such a thing always have consequences and of course Sun-Tzu will respond. Black May isn't what he wanted and he had to kill Kali Liao for that act.

So if wasn't for Davion constant "protection", Candice wouldn't be able to secede and Black May wouldn't have happened.

Davion is the cause of the trouble for the most of the inner sphere so yes it should be hated more.

Edited by prastagus, 02 August 2012 - 01:17 PM.

[Kiahoga]

prastagus, on 02 August 2012 - 01:11 PM, said:

Cap Fed was first introduced to Davion pirates on behalf of Sarna Supremists. Then Davion influenced Marik to attack Cap Fed. Thoughout the centuries, the Davion attacked and conquered Cap Fed lands which forced Cap Fed to produce leaders like Franco Liao who ended democracy of Cap Fed due to continous non-stopping Davion attacks on it. Centuries of warfare of Davion and Marik on Cap Fed produced later leaders such as Maximillian and Romanao and then Sun-Tzu Liao. Don't make them out to be villians as Davion's bloody hands had prop up and made them the way they are. In the more recent history, Danai Liao-Centrella's experience at the hands of Caleb Davion (sickness indeed on multiple levels) is a prime example of House of Davion's past, present, and future relations between Cap Fed and FC.

For St Ives Compact, Candice seceding due to transition leadership problems and then leap into the hands of Cap Fed's enemy Davion who still was attacking Cap Fed. This is treason and in doing so also made her own father insane. So this is not just business but personal for House of Liao. Such a thing always have consequences and of course Sun-Tzu will respond. Black May isn't what he wanted and he had to kill Kali Liao for that act.

So if wasn't for Davion constant "protection", Candice wouldn't be able to secede and Black May wouldn't have happened.

Davion is the cause of the trouble for the most of the inner sphere so yes it should be hated more.

It wasnt Candice pulling St. Ives out of the confederation that drove Max Liao mad it was him realizing that after the 4th Sucession War there was no Way for him to become first lord of a new Star LEague and it didnt help the message the Hanse Davion left him on his throne. Also after how things went down on Sian do you think Candice had any real choice to do what she did nevermind the fact she was in love with Justin Allard,

[iron610]

I hate the House Liao. I have respect for every other single house except the Liao. However, I do hate Lyran scouts...

[Davers]

Davion. The Devs knew there would be an overflow of Davion fanboys so they nerfed ACs!

[Czardread]

Does Comstar counts? they are the ones i hate the most, followed by WoB wich is essencially the same thing.

[prastagus]

Kiahoga, on 02 August 2012 - 02:52 PM, said:

It wasnt Candice pulling St. Ives out of the confederation that drove Max Liao mad it was him realizing that after the 4th Sucession War there was no Way for him to become first lord of a new Star LEague and it didnt help the message the Hanse Davion left him on his throne. Also after how things went down on Sian do you think Candice had any real choice to do what she did nevermind the fact she was in love with Justin Allard,

She could have chosen exile to Davion instead of pulling St Ives out which further weaking Cap Fed while Davion was attacking it. If similar thing happened in Davion, would she be romanticized or recieve retribution from the main Davion ruling body?

You didn't argue about Cap Fed is directly how past Davion aggression had cause it to become like this

Edited by prastagus, 02 August 2012 - 06:13 PM.