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[Tannhauser Gate]

Mira Widowmaker, on 08 July 2013 - 07:19 PM, said:

It is the duty of the strong and righteous to protect the weak and stand by their side. We could not accomplish, what was necessary in the fourth succession war. We disappointed those people held hostage by your Coordinator.
But I swear to you, this is far from over!
There will come a time of reckoning. As long as the night may be, night is followed by dawn when the sun rises, and it will be federated suns who bring their light of hope and shine like a beacon of salvation.
Our Prince will turn the tide and bring justice and liberty to the people. You may be a dragon, but a dragon is nothing but a bigger snake... Remember what happened to the cappellan snake when two great and honorable houses joined forces.
We showed the mad king liao the way and we will show it to your Coordinator, if he does not realize the foolishness of his ways.
The fight for justice and liberty is far from over. As long as people are oppressed under a brutal and cruel regime like the Cappellan Confederation or Draconis Combine the honorable soldiers of the Federated Suns will fight lead by their Prince to bring light to those in the darkness of despair.

Noble sentiment. Equality without destiny is for sheep. Democracy without honor is for school children. Your powerful elite flaunt their royal robes, plan their bloody "liberations" while you faithfully swallow the delusion they want you to believe. You truly believe all the military and industrial power in your House is meant to help the oppressed and your prince's massiahesque conscience and moral purity is the soul of your mission? Then you have dismissed reason and the powerful industrial elite coronate themselves over you and pave their way to riches and decadence with your blood.

Alas, I cannot expect you to understand. Lesser races kneel to lesser kings with lesser ideals. You and your people have gilded the corruption of your kings with laurels and song then freely hand over your children to die for their ambition and greed. Humans are born as sand - common and featureless. It is through Honor, Nobility of the soul, great deeds, and service to the Perfection of yourself and your people that will you understand that equality is an illusion... and you will remain as sand.

Edited by LakeDaemon, 09 July 2013 - 08:56 AM.

[Mira Widowmaker]

LakeDaemon, on 09 July 2013 - 08:30 AM, said:

It is through Honor, Nobility of the soul, great deeds, and service to the Perfection of yourself and your people that will you understand that equality is an illusion... and you will remain as sand.

Honor? You dare to speak about honor? What honor is in betraying one's own soldiers? You think people dismiss the story of Wolf's Dragoons because they are mercenaries?
They are honorable mercenaries and when your Draconis Combine employed them, they were betrayed by your, their employer. Their civilians held hostage.
They gave you an answer about what they thought about your honor on Misery.

After all, my prince does not ask me to kneel before him. He asks me to stand tall for all those people still oppressed on worlds in the Cappellan Confederation and the Draconis Combine. To stand tall for the people on the worlds of the Federated Suns who are terror of invading forces of the power-hungry Cappellan Confederation or Draconis Combine.
If you had honor, true honor, then people would not fear you.
I kneel for no man. I kneel for the greatness of ideals we soldiers of the Federated Suns are fighting for.

There will come a time, you and your people will answer for your crimes and the civilians you held hostage will be freed.

But my oh so honorable warrior... what about Kentares? What honor did your Combine find there?

[Tannhauser Gate]

Honorable mercenary? Nonsense. Mercenaries are ronin and without honor but even princes can use dogs for hunting.

As for Kentares, yes its been your rallying cry for 300 years. A regretable act of revenge and a shameful waste that cost the Combine a decisive victory over your House. We are all victims of it, both the Suns and the Combine. If not for JinJiro's crime, you all would be living in peace now under House Kurita. War is never without crimes against honor. It is rife with events where mercy failed.

But that is history long past. The Suns engaged in indescriminant nuclear attacks on cities just as much as other Houses did. Yet, I do not know of any crime that sentences fifteen generations to shame.

Edited by LakeDaemon, 09 July 2013 - 11:38 AM.

[dal10]

Mira Widowmaker, on 09 July 2013 - 09:05 AM, said:

After all, my prince does not ask me to kneel before him. He asks me to stand tall for all those people still oppressed on worlds in the Cappellan Confederation and the Draconis Combine. To stand tall for the people on the worlds of the Federated Suns who are terror of invading forces of the power-hungry Cappellan Confederation or Draconis Combine.
If you had honor, true honor, then people would not fear you.
I kneel for no man. I kneel for the greatness of ideals we soldiers of the Federated Suns are fighting for.

There will come a time, you and your people will answer for your crimes and the civilians you held hostage will be freed.

But my oh so honorable warrior... what about Kentares? What honor did your Combine find there?

You do realize that the people of the capellan confederation are far more united behind our royal family than your realm could boast of at any time? There is a reason that despite us having always been the smallest successor state, we are still around. The Confederation's strength comes from its people. That is something you davion dogs will never be able to stamp out.

[101011]

dal10, on 09 July 2013 - 02:43 PM, said:

You do realize that the people of the capellan confederation are far more united behind our royal family than your realm could boast of at any time? There is a reason that despite us having always been the smallest successor state, we are still around. The Confederation's strength comes from its people. That is something you davion dogs will never be able to stamp out.

The "Confederation's" strength comes from oppressing it's civilians in an atmosphere of tyranny and terror. Your so-called politics are comprised of treachery and murder. You call that united? I shudder to imagine what you consider to be the opposite.

[Gemini Bull]

The first star league and the capellan's for me. The first star league for invading the independent periphery nations(im a taurian concordat fan). The cap's for future events that has led to the taurian concordat's civil war.

[XFactor76]

Reading most of the posts. I find myself at a flux as how to respond. I can one say that I have read all the old novels, and majority of source books. I can't say that I just hate this house nor can I say all the people in a certain house are good or bad. Take for example Max's daughter for house Liao or Hanse Davion's Cousins or even better his own daughter. I can't fry the League for their inability to know if who sits in their seat of power is actually a real or a fake. Taken back by old man Kurita or being usurped by his son. I can quantify that one house is pure or more Honorable than the rest. I can say this. Without a shadow of a doubt. We have our flaws. We have black sheep of the family, bible thumping family, and the crazy old person. We all have people even today that stand out among others as good people. Or honorable individuals that usually take a lot of heat from us not so good. We are not perfect and to expect than Davion's act to much like a police force or Liao's are all sneaky ******** is characteristically untrue. What I can say is Davion's represent what I feel I would like to be as a person. The Liao's are what I would least like to represent. Buracrats run Steiner (not much to my liking) while the FFR is a contradiction of the united states. one would say a melting pot so stuck on everyone wanting a piece that no one wants to share and in End Kurita will always have its honor. Now saying this I know haven't gave it much thought. Yet, stories tend to mimic life. We should all be careful about the word hate, for some day, we might need to fight together and call those that are enemies allies.

X

[codynyc]

LIAO
love when the ones that yell squawk are the same ones that die first....

[ArmandTulsen]

I've always hated House Liao. They're cunning, treacherous, duplicitous, honourless scum.

[CyclonerM]

I quote Xfactor, not ALL the people of a nation are as bad as the Clichès would show them.. But if i have to despise a nation, i would join the House Liao detractors,even if some great characters such as Kai-Allard LIao have Capellan Blood. But would you despise Chris Kell because he was raised in the Combine?
Anyway, i support the Free Worlds League.

Edited by CyclonerM, 22 July 2013 - 02:34 AM.

[AaronWolf]

Hate? Dislike? Well, to tell you the truth-I hate all the houses, including my own. Davion. Doesn't change that they are the reason I am in a mechanized suit of destruction.

You see, I don't care about your politics. I don't care about your bickering and whining. I only care about crushing my enemies under the ironshod boot's I wear everyday into my HGB-4G. Take off that damn cooling jacket and feel the heat wash over me as I see another enemy die. The smell of burning steel, grease and flesh...

...That is what drives me to fight for the Davion's. Because they put the enemy infront of me, and I can do what I love: killing. And they will never know...until I have no one else to kill.

-Excerpt from a Madman.

Edited by AaronWolf, 22 July 2013 - 10:45 AM.

[dal10]

XFactor76, on 17 July 2013 - 01:17 PM, said:

Reading most of the posts. I find myself at a flux as how to respond. I can one say that I have read all the old novels, and majority of source books. I can't say that I just hate this house nor can I say all the people in a certain house are good or bad. Take for example Max's daughter for house Liao or Hanse Davion's Cousins or even better his own daughter. I can't fry the League for their inability to know if who sits in their seat of power is actually a real or a fake. Taken back by old man Kurita or being usurped by his son. I can quantify that one house is pure or more Honorable than the rest. I can say this. Without a shadow of a doubt. We have our flaws. We have black sheep of the family, bible thumping family, and the crazy old person. We all have people even today that stand out among others as good people. Or honorable individuals that usually take a lot of heat from us not so good. We are not perfect and to expect than Davion's act to much like a police force or Liao's are all sneaky ******** is characteristically untrue. What I can say is Davion's represent what I feel I would like to be as a person. The Liao's are what I would least like to represent. Buracrats run Steiner (not much to my liking) while the FFR is a contradiction of the united states. one would say a melting pot so stuck on everyone wanting a piece that no one wants to share and in End Kurita will always have its honor. Now saying this I know haven't gave it much thought. Yet, stories tend to mimic life. We should all be careful about the word hate, for some day, we might need to fight together and call those that are enemies allies.

X

hey, at least we aren't warmongers.

[Skadi]

House Goon.

They ruined the game by squawking.

[FearTheAmish]

Steiner for this nonsense...

Notice how its only Steiners that don't understand game mechanics

[pjfontillas]

Liao based on lore. Marik based on forum posts.

[pjfontillas]

LakeDaemon, on 09 July 2013 - 09:50 AM, said:

Honorable mercenary? Nonsense. Mercenaries are ronin and without honor but even princes can use dogs for hunting.

As for Kentares, yes its been your rallying cry for 300 years. A regretable act of revenge and a shameful waste that cost the Combine a decisive victory over your House. We are all victims of it, both the Suns and the Combine. If not for JinJiro's crime, you all would be living in peace now under House Kurita. War is never without crimes against honor. It is rife with events where mercy failed.

But that is history long past. The Suns engaged in indescriminant nuclear attacks on cities just as much as other Houses did. Yet, I do not know of any crime that sentences fifteen generations to shame.

Wolf's Dragoons and the Kell Hounds would like a few words [read: battles] with you.

[dal10]

pjfontillas, on 29 July 2013 - 11:21 AM, said:

Wolf's Dragoons and the Kell Hounds would like a few words [read: battles] with you.

https://yourlogicalf...s.com/anecdotal

[Alaskan Nobody]

dal10, on 29 July 2013 - 04:23 PM, said:

https://yourlogicalf...s.com/anecdotal

Ahhh... no, in the lore of the series those two have actively worked toward giving mercenaries in general a good reputation - and have gone out of their way to hunt down the less trustworthy mercenary group.

[Cale MacKenna]

Hence why a mercenary unit is given a DRAGOONS rating..

[Warlune]

Kurita and Liao are scum.