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[Pr8Dator]

If you guys really think Clan mechs are OP, faster, stronger, cooler, basically god mode on legs, why are you guys not playing Clan?? You are not born IS for real you know? This is a video game and there are no special qualifications for playing clan mechs, so, JUST PLAY IT! LOL! Why complain about something being too strong if you can also play it? Unless you have something against having fun? Or maybe you love to complain? Or, you are anti establishment and just want to live life the hard way? I mean, tell me please... what's on your mind?

NOTE: Not all IS players are whiners. There are many good IS players. I am only talking about the NOISY MINORITY WHINERS.

UPDATE: The sad thing about reading these responses so far is whiners making excuses why they should keep doing so! LOL! I have nothing to say hahaha... keep whining then... perhaps its your favorite pastime.

Edited by Pr8Dator, 07 May 2017 - 04:45 AM.

[Vonbach]

0/10

[Antares102]

Pr8Dator, on 07 May 2017 - 04:31 AM, said:

If you guys really think Clan mechs are OP, faster, stronger, cooler, basically god mode on legs, why are you guys not playing Clan?? You are not born IS for real you know? This is a video game and there are no special qualifications for playing clan mechs, so, JUST PLAY IT! LOL! Why complain about something being too strong if you can also play it? Unless you have something against having fun? Or maybe you love to complain? Or, you are anti establishment and just want to live life the hard way? I mean, tell me please... what's on your mind?

Uhm.. you know what happens when everybody plays clan during this event?
Nobody plays at all!
Oh god the stupidity, it hurts.

Edited by Antares102, 07 May 2017 - 04:35 AM.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Antares102, on 07 May 2017 - 04:33 AM, said:

Uhm.. you know what happens when everybody plays clan during this event?
Nobody plays at all!
Oh god the stupidity, it hurts.

Meanwhile Clans are currently heavily outnumbered.

Maybe more people should be playing clans, to balance out the PUG populations if anything.

[Juodas Varnas]

So... You want to sit in queue forever, because there is no-one playing on the IS side?

Perfect logic, can't complain.

[Pr8Dator]

Antares102, on 07 May 2017 - 04:33 AM, said:

Uhm.. you know what happens when everybody plays clan during this event?
Nobody plays at all!
Oh god the stupidity, it hurts.

Not all IS players are whiners... this post is only for IS WHINER ... please read carefully before you post your reply

Juodas Varnas, on 07 May 2017 - 04:36 AM, said:

So... You want to sit in queue forever, because there is no-one playing on the IS side?

Perfect logic, can't complain.

Not all IS players are whiners... this post is only for IS WHINER ... please read carefully before you post your reply... unless you are saying all you IS players are whiners? Then you are right.

[Weeny Machine]

1. Yup, it is totally meaningless that one mech explodes on a ST loss, the others gets a penalty but can fight on
2. Yup, you are totally free to choose sides. I mean we can just ignore contracts and...oh wait.


But hey, you could heed your own advice (after all you imply they are the equal) and play IS and maybe then you could save yourself the typing, eh?

[Pr8Dator]

Bush Hopper, on 07 May 2017 - 04:38 AM, said:

1. Yup, it is totally meaningless that one mech explodes on a ST loss, the others gets a penalty but can fight on
2. Yup, you are totally free to choose sides. I mean we can just ignore contracts and...oh wait.


But hey, you could heed your own advice (after all you imply they are the equal) and play IS and maybe then you could save yourself the typing, eh?

Dude, I started this game 5 years ago in beta, I STARTED PLAYING FROM IS FFS LOL! I believe I spent MORE time in IS than you ever did because for YEARS this game had nothing but IS FFS! LOL! The only gaming video I ever made of MWO is a Cataphract! LOL! Check the link in the sig! LOL!

The brainlessness of the IS Whiners here is beginning to make me understand the situation, LOL!

Edited by Pr8Dator, 07 May 2017 - 04:41 AM.

[Antares102]

Pr8Dator, on 07 May 2017 - 04:37 AM, said:

Not all IS players are whiners... this post is only for IS WHINER ... please read carefully before you post your reply

Mate, everybody whines about IS being inferior to clan because it's a god damn fact.
If IS and clan are facing off with absolutly equal skill level clan will win.
Last time when I did drop lead I also decided to switch to clan because it was absolutly horrible to play with IS garbage mechs even though I had some really well organized players with me.

Just because somebody is not openly whining on the forum does not mean they are not whining at all.

Chapeau to all those people on IS side keeping this event alive!

Edited by Antares102, 07 May 2017 - 04:42 AM.

[Pr8Dator]

Antares102, on 07 May 2017 - 04:41 AM, said:

Mate, everybody whines about IS being inferior to clan because it's a god damn fact.
If IS and clan are facing off with absolutly equal skill level clan will win.
Last time when I did drop lead I also decided to switch to clan because it was absolutly horrible to play with IS garbage mechs and I had some really good organized players with me.

Just because somebody is not openly whining on the forum does not mean they are not whining at all.

Chapeau to all those people on IS side keeping this event alive!

Your "everyone whines" is a typical non empirical assumption of anti social logic that makes this world so bad now... sigh... "everyone hates the government", "everyone hates the rich", "everyone blah blah blah" when the truth is, the noisy minority always think they are the "everyone"...sigh...

Edited by Pr8Dator, 07 May 2017 - 04:43 AM.

[Jay Leon Hart]

Pr8Dator, on 07 May 2017 - 04:31 AM, said:

LOL! I'M AN AMAZING PILOT! IT'S NOT THE TECH IMBALANCE! YOU GUYS ALL SUCK! LOL!

Got bored of the Pr8Dator2 account already?

[Pr8Dator]

Jay Leon Hart, on 07 May 2017 - 04:47 AM, said:

Got bored of the Pr8Dator2 account already?

Nope, I was told by a mod to post only with my main account and not with an alt. That's still the only account I play now. I only forumwarrior on this main account cos I have no choice haha

Edited by Pr8Dator, 07 May 2017 - 04:49 AM.

[Bud Crue]

OP,

Clan mechs are not "OP" there are four mechs maybe 5 clan mechs that are capable of doing one particular thing (long range PPFLD) that the IS can't match and those asymmetric answers to that state of affairs (brawling, etc.) can't counter due to several design flaws that PGI can't seem to address (Clan XL superiority, etc.). Many IS and Clan players recognize this design failure and are asking PGI to fix it. You call that whining, we call it making observation and asking for it to be fixed. As to why they don't just all play clan...

Because many of us came to this game due to its association with Battletech and we don't want "OP" mechs, we want mechs that just aren't garbage yet still feed the nostalgia.

Because PGI has stated multiple times that this is a competitive game where ALL mechs are to have a role and be of equivalent competitive value within the game...and we are still waiting for that.

Because some of those whiners have literally spent THOUSANDS to support PGI in the hopes that they would either make the game they originally promised OR make the competitive game I mentioned above; and that investment was not to play Clans, but to play the products that PGI sold them originally.

Because some still have hope that PGI will figure this shi7 out.

Alas, PGI has finally with the skills tree nerfs shown that their idea of a "competition game" is destroying the competitive value of numerous mechs (however temporary that may be) so don't you worry...a lot of those IS "whiners" will be going Clan just as soon as the skills tree and its many stupendously ill-conceived nerfs go live. Finally we can all play the same f**king Clan meta together. Won't that be a fun?

Edited for format

Edited by Bud Crue, 07 May 2017 - 04:54 AM.

[Antares102]

Pr8Dator, on 07 May 2017 - 04:43 AM, said:

Your "everyone whines" is a typical non empirical assumption of anti social logic that makes this world so bad now... sigh... "everyone hates the government", "everyone hates the rich", "everyone blah blah blah" when the truth is, the noisy minority always think they are the "everyone"...sigh...

Clan > IS from a balance point of view is a fact.
Therefore playing on IS side puts you at a disadvantage per design.
Playing at a disadvantage willingly or not creates a feeling of unfairness.
Being treated unfair causes humans with half a brain to complain (=whine).

I stand with my initial statement that everbody playing on equal ground in terms of skill against clan will lose and therefore complain even if it is not public.

Edited by Antares102, 07 May 2017 - 04:51 AM.

[Phoolan Devi]

Bush Hopper, on 07 May 2017 - 04:38 AM, said:

1. Yup, it is totally meaningless that one mech explodes on a ST loss, the others gets a penalty but can fight on

Strange....I do not die due to a ST loss. I can even loose two and still can keep on shooting. Strange that^^

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2. Yup, you are totally free to choose sides. I mean we can just ignore contracts and...oh wait.

Be happy that PGI is that merc-friendly and screwes over loyalists. I would be in favor for a system that mercs would have to switch sides after a contract!

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But hey, you could heed your own advice (after all you imply they are the equal) and play IS and maybe then you could save yourself the typing, eh?

Actially, there is nothing wrong with playing IS. Balance is pretty close and when I listen to veterans, it's the closest it has ever been.

[Pr8Dator]

Antares102, on 07 May 2017 - 04:50 AM, said:

Clan > IS from a balance point of view is a fact.
Therefore playing on IS side puts you at a disadvantage.
Playing at a disadvantage willingly or not creates a feeling of unfairness.
Being treated unfair causes humans with half a brain to complain (=whine).

I stand with my initial statement that everbody playing on equal ground in terms of skill against clan will lose and therefore complain even if it is not public.

Equal grounds mean equal drop tonnage then... why is there a tonnage difference?

Phoolan Devi, on 07 May 2017 - 04:50 AM, said:

Strange....I do not die due to a ST loss. I can even loose two and still can keep on shooting. Strange that^^




Be happy that PGI is that merc-friendly and screwes over loyalists. I would be in favor for a system that mercs would have to switch sides after a contract!




Actially, there is nothing wrong with playing IS. Balance is pretty close and when I listen to veterans, it's the closest it has ever been.

At last someone who knows.

[Antares102]

Pr8Dator, on 07 May 2017 - 04:51 AM, said:

Equal grounds mean equal drop tonnage then... why is there a tonnage difference?

265 tons does not compensate the discrepancy for the general player base.
It's a nice freebie nothing else. It has been so in the past and clans still stomped IS.

Just a simple example. Please show me an IS brawler with that can keep up with this mech for 75 tons or less and the same speed:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...6620e7db48f3c8f

On the right maps where you are have close quarters everywhere imagine 12 of these things walking into you.
The only thing that can stop these are something like 12 Atlas 7S which eats up your 25 additional tons in the first wave.
Then the second wave of these Timbers hits you and you if you bring yet another Atlas 7S you will run out of steam in the final wave. Been there done that many times.

[Karl Streiger]

Why IS stays IS?
well the answer is simple - Clansman only wash them self once a month and only with clean cold water - anything else would be a waste.
So a room full of Clansmen provide any sentinent beeing with a odor that would cause instant unconscious.

[Bud Crue]

Antares102, on 07 May 2017 - 05:00 AM, said:

265 tons does not compensate the discrepancy for the general player base.
It's a nice freebie nothing else. It has been so in the past and clans still stomped IS.

Just a simple example. Please show me an IS brawler with that can keep up with this mech for 75 tons or less and the same speed:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...6620e7db48f3c8f

On the right maps where you are have close quarters everywhere imagine 12 of these things walking into you.
The only thing that can stop these are something like 12 Atlas 7S which eats up your 25 additional tons in the first wave.
Then the second wave of these Timbers hits you and you if you bring yet another Atlas 7S you will run out of steam in the final wave. Been there done that many times.

Oh for the days of the Thunderbolt 5SS. Alas, those days are gone. They could return, but that would mean "god tier quirks" and PGI wants a "drastic" reduction of all offensive quirks so no. Those days are never coming back. So me an my XL running Warhammer are about as close as I can get to that mix of speed, damage and range profile.

Edited by Bud Crue, 07 May 2017 - 05:14 AM.

[GrimRiver]

It's easy to coast on victory when clan smoke jaguar is single handedly mopping the floor with the opposition.

Smoke Jaguar is almost 20,000 points in the lead alone.

IS total: 33282

Clan total: 40486