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[razenWing]

I don't care about all the mumble jumble about all and everything.

So, no more of my usual long speeches about how the greater good is blah blah blah blah blah

I just care about one thing. Is my EBJ going to be nerfed? I have 10, and planning to get 2 more with the coming Clan Wave II. Let's just say, leave the EBJ alone, and we have no problem.

As for other stuff... do what you like. Too tired and too old to argue.

Edited by razenWing, 13 May 2017 - 03:40 AM.

[Bud Crue]

No.
Base engine agility is around 308. (4.75 multiplier)
No other notable changes to the Ebon per the last two iterations of the skills tree.
What may be done to it subsequently after ST goes live is of course entirely up to the whims of the dartboard.

[razenWing]

Bud Crue, on 13 May 2017 - 03:43 AM, said:

No.
Base engine agility is around 308. (4.75 multiplier)
No other notable changes to the Ebon per the last two iterations of the skills tree.
What may be done to it subsequently after ST goes live is of course entirely up to the whims of the dartboard.

But, that IS a nerf. It runs around in a 325 right now. 308 is at least 3 scale worse. Is Linebacker still running around in that ridiculous 425?

[MechaBattler]

razenWing, on 13 May 2017 - 12:07 PM, said:

But, that IS a nerf. It runs around in a 325 right now. 308 is at least 3 scale worse. Is Linebacker still running around in that ridiculous 425?

Well, good.

There's a lot of IS mechs losing quirks. Hard to sympathize. It'll probably still be a good mech.

[Monkey Lover]

Patch notes are still not out and even then they.might not say. We will see here soon™

[Requiemking]

MechaBattler, on 13 May 2017 - 12:16 PM, said:

Well, good.

There's a lot of IS mechs losing quirks. Hard to sympathize. It'll probably still be a good mech.

Erm, I wouldn't call the EBJ "good" per say. I'd say something more along the lines of "used frequently as an alternative to the Timber Wolf due to dropdeck limitations".

Edited by Requiemking, 13 May 2017 - 08:31 PM.

[El Bandito]

Requiemking, on 13 May 2017 - 08:30 PM, said:

Erm, I wouldn't call the EBJ "good" per say. I'd say something more along the lines of "used frequently as an alternative to the Timber Wolf due to dropdeck limitations".

Better than any IS 65 tonners, that's for sure. Clan standards are higher.

Edited by El Bandito, 13 May 2017 - 09:11 PM.

[Tarl Cabot]

The sad thing is nothing said about anything concerning the isXL fragility. Is PGI still sticking to their guns can not make the isXL similar to the cXL cause that will leave the STD out in the cold?

[Requiemking]

El Bandito, on 13 May 2017 - 09:11 PM, said:

Better than any IS 65 tonners, that's for sure. Clan standards are higher.

I don't know. I've heard some mighty good things about the Roughneck. Not to mention, it's pretty hard for Clan missiles to unseat the Catapult, and the Thunderwub is one of the masters of the LPL.

Tarl Cabot, on 13 May 2017 - 09:14 PM, said:

The sad thing is nothing said about anything concerning the isXL fragility. Is PGI still sticking to their guns can not make the isXL similar to the cXL cause that will leave the STD out in the cold?

Would also make LFE utterly pointless.

[ForceUser]

razenWing, on 13 May 2017 - 12:07 PM, said:

But, that IS a nerf. It runs around in a 325 right now. 308 is at least 3 scale worse. Is Linebacker still running around in that ridiculous 425?

Agility skill nodes should bring it back up to 325-ish I believe.

Unless you're looking for a *buff* to the EBJ?

Edited by ForceUser, 13 May 2017 - 09:21 PM.

[El Bandito]

Requiemking, on 13 May 2017 - 09:16 PM, said:

I don't know. I've heard some mighty good things about the Roughneck. Not to mention, it's pretty hard for Clan missiles to unseat the Catapult, and the Thunderwub is one of the masters of the LPL.

They are all niche. EBJ is better than them in general situation. Catapults are only good for splat.

[Dirus Nigh]

Your XL engine will still survive a side torso loss. Your weapons will still out range IS weapons. Your energy weapons will still do more damage than IS energy weapons. You will still be able to swap your hard points. You will be fine chill out.

[Requiemking]

El Bandito, on 13 May 2017 - 09:27 PM, said:

They are all niche. EBJ is better than them in general situation. Catapults are only good for splat.

And the EBJ isn't? The EBJ is effectively a low-budget, worse Timby. Everything one could do with an EBJ, a Timby could do better. The sole, single caveat in this is in Gauss/PPC sniping, where the EBJ's highmounts are superior to the Timby's ballistic mount. however, the Timby can easily offset this advantage by using JJs or by using PPCs in the A Left Torso.

[MauttyKoray]

Tarl Cabot, on 13 May 2017 - 09:14 PM, said:

The sad thing is nothing said about anything concerning the isXL fragility. Is PGI still sticking to their guns can not make the isXL similar to the cXL cause that will leave the STD out in the cold?

When people don't read...

"The final balance point we can briefly highlight now involves Engine types. Better balance across the Standard, XL, and Clan XL Engine types is a major change that I am heavily pushing for. It's currently in the very early stages of evaluation, with gameplay and technical considerations to be made. At this time, there is no solid ETA or info I can provide, but it will definitely be something we look at addressing after the introduction of new tech."

Straight from the Q&A... ETA - After the Civil War update at some point.

Edited by MauttyKoray, 13 May 2017 - 11:40 PM.

[El Bandito]

Requiemking, on 13 May 2017 - 09:32 PM, said:

And the EBJ isn't? The EBJ is effectively a low-budget, worse Timby. Everything one could do with an EBJ, a Timby could do better. The sole, single caveat in this is in Gauss/PPC sniping, where the EBJ's highmounts are superior to the Timby's ballistic mount. however, the Timby can easily offset this advantage by using JJs or by using PPCs in the A Left Torso.

Why are you bringing the Timbie into this? My original post was about how the EBJ is better than any IS 65 tonners.