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[Koniving]

Kaethir, on 18 May 2017 - 07:07 AM, said:

1 SP = The cost to unlock a node for the first time. you can use at most 237 (i think that's the right number) SP on any particular mech, but only 91 can be active at a time, so if you don't have any tinkering to do, 91 will get the job done. I suspect for most people there will be a little tinkering, and you will need ~120 SP or so per mech, at least.
1 GSP = 1 SP (you have to transfer it to a particular mech first, and can transfer it to any mech).
1 HSP = 1 SP (you have to transfer it to a particular mech first, and can transfer it to any copies of the 'mech variant it is tied to.)
800 GXP + 45,000 CBills = 1 SP (you have to spend this to purchase the SP on a particular mech, and can do so on any mech)
800 HXP + 45,000 CBills = 1 SP (you have to spend this to purchase the SP on a particular mech, and can do so on any copy of a mech variant the HXP is tied to.)
800 XP + 45,000 CBills = 1 SP (you have to spend this to purchase the SP on a particular mech, and can only do so on the individual 'mech the XP is tied to.)

so, you have enough GXP to purchase ~300-some-odd SP, but you will need ~15M Cbills (45k * 300-some-odd) in order to get those SP.

I will be spending mine in the order HSP->HXP+Cbills->XP+Cbills->GSP.

This probably explains why I went through all the trouble to figure out what skills I wanted to unlock for my mech, I'm at 91 nodes...
And I can't unlock a goddamn thing because it won't let me apply.

How do I transfer my HSP/GSP to a specific mech so I can use it? (And PGI why the hell isn't this automatic?)

Side note: It turns out I have 21 Historical Skill points for 150+ mechs, most of which were mastered...

Good thing I bought nodes or I'd be up **** creek.

Also -- figured out how to add said SP.

[Kaethir]

BTW, to go back to the OP...

I find GSP highly valuable - I got 400, which will be a nice buffer for the next few mechs I purchase, and 140k GXP, which will be a further nice buffer even though I have to spend some of my CBills to use it.

I can understand some frustration for those with more than a few thousand, but it seems to fit just right for me.

Oh, I just realized I left the last entry off my list of the order I will spend things in:

I will be spending mine in the order HSP->HXP+Cbills->XP+Cbills->GSP->GXP+Cbills

[Wildstreak]

I agree with OP and I got 5356 GSP in the ledger.
After using some on Mechs I only had Basic Efficiencies on, I still have 4062, divide by 91, enough for about 44 Mechs.
I only have 17 open bays.
I did not convert and HXP into HSP due to CB cost when adding 91 SP to all Mechs, I figure why spend the CB when I can use GSP for no cost.
I also today just figured out the involved and costly system of
Convert HXP to XP seemingly for no cost.
Convert XP to GXP for CB cost.
Convert GXP to SP for more CB cost.

This whole involved P system needs to be improved, only way to make this worse is to let Wall Street market value Points.

Edited by Wildstreak, 18 May 2017 - 08:57 AM.

[DAYLEET]

MOBAjobg, on 17 May 2017 - 11:43 PM, said:

Is having about 463,338 General XP (GXP) sufficient?

It takes 73k to buy 91 SP. GXP is still mostly useless but it will be better than nothing when you run out of HSP and GSP.

[Ultimax]

Vxheous Kerensky, on 17 May 2017 - 10:25 PM, said:

Some GSP is good (like 5000ish), but I'm sitting on absurd amounts (>20K) of GSP. I've maybe used about 150 or so of GSP moving pts around on my trees as I continue to Min/Max to my liking. I still wish that PGI will allow us to sell back GSP at a reduced c-bill cost (equivalent to 50% module selling)

20K You should have some of those modules the night before bud.

[Vxheous]

Ultimax, on 18 May 2017 - 09:33 AM, said:

20K You should have some of those modules the night before bud.

I was going to dump modules, but in the end, it was too much of a headache trying to figure out which modules were bought before Dec, and which ones were bought after. In the end, the system gave me 20K GSP, and 450 million c-bill refund, which put me at 700 million c-bills on account. I've used about 500 GSP now (bought a couple mechs, and used the rest so far to move pts around on about 1/3 of the mechs I have set up trees for). I feel like I'm not lacking in any in-game resource besides MC now (granted I'll probably burn a bunch of the 700 million I have right now next month when new tech comes, and I'll have to slow down my burning 160k in consumables per match, though I usually earn 250-400k a quick play match minus the 160k consumable burn)

[Jackal Noble]

MOBAjobg, on 17 May 2017 - 11:43 PM, said:

Is having about 463,338 General XP (GXP) sufficient?

I think you need more browser windows open.

[Ignatius Audene]

I will ignore my 11000 GSP like i did with my gxp before. Otherwise there is nothing i can achieve. I like leveling Mechs for the Pokémon Faktor

Edited by Ignatius Audene, 18 May 2017 - 09:57 AM.

[JadePanther]

meh i'm just saving everything to see what happens in 2 months.. once civil war hits theres gonna be tons of tech to invest cbills in.. once useless mechs might actually become viable under the new tech.. new skills will come out for the new tech so i'm gonna end up spending on those..

so really i'm not gonna try and burn anything till i see whats worth burning it on down the road..

[Nameless King]

irRational Agent, on 18 May 2017 - 06:43 AM, said:

Yes you get HSP for mechs mastered previously. Each HSP you have will unlock 1 node for free. So you got 91 for each mastered mech.
GSP was for owning modules. PGI gave you the value of a module plus the GXP of a skill point to unlock one SP for free on any mech. 4800 GSP will unlock about 50 mechs but use your HSP first.
As things change I think 4800 GSP is fine. Some are disagreeing and I see the point of others that have 20k worth but you have a nice amount.
There is new tech coming in the Civil War patch. PGI has said they will be making changes to the skill tree and adding things as time go's on. You will spend it. Now you won't have to grind all those new mechs you want.

I said I had 72,000 GSP not sure why you think that is a good amount, as I said I will never have to lvl any mech ever again.