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[Ted Wayz]

So will you kick it old school and use the Javelin as a missile boat or will you make the 11A a mini Grasshopper? Or take Confucius' advice and take the middle road with the HT?

I am guessing the meta lords will decree the only good loadout involves 2 large pulses on the 10F aka Assassin.

And is all of this depressing? That a mech can't fulfill it's role in lore without being decried DOA for doing so.

[Alan Davion]

Got to be meta-cheese-effective or it's DOA.

People have clearly gotten used to, and even just plain expect at this point, every mech to power creep the mech that came before it.

[Monkey Lover]

I'm thinking of getting a refund on mine. No leg quirks is going to suck.

[Y E O N N E]

Why would you decree LPL for this 'Mech? It's got tankable geometry and JJs and should work terrifically with smaller lasers and SRMs.

6x SRM2 with 5 tons of ammo and the appropriate skill tree nodes should be quite effective. Ditto 7x SPL or 5x MPL. Hell, even a standard MedLas boat with the 15% duration reduction from the skill tree.

[Deathlike]

Yeonne Greene, on 12 May 2017 - 04:41 PM, said:

Why would you decree LPL for this 'Mech? It's got tankable geometry and JJs and should work terrifically with smaller lasers and SRMs.

I'm pretty sure LPL is the goto response for every IS mech added to the game (like, if other weapons were viable or something or not).

[Y E O N N E]

Deathlike, on 12 May 2017 - 05:00 PM, said:

I'm pretty sure LPL is the goto response for every IS mech added to the game (like, if other weapons were viable or something or not).

I mean, sure, but in this case I'd say it's the lesser build and not what the meta lords would decree. Maybe the metalord wannabes, colloquially known as "tryhards."

[Ted Wayz]

Yeonne Greene, on 12 May 2017 - 05:41 PM, said:

I mean, sure, but in this case I'd say it's the lesser build and not what the meta lords would decree. Maybe the metalord wannabes, colloquially known as "tryhards."

Oh, so I guess you are a metalord then. What is the "greater" and probably more depressing build?

[Y E O N N E]

Ted Wayz, on 12 May 2017 - 05:52 PM, said:

Oh, so I guess you are a metalord then. What is the "greater" and probably more depressing build?

I mentioned them already in the previous post; it's the replacement for the Firestarter, essentially. Being 30 tons ought to give it a good size. You can LPL with this (using a single one and some MedLas), but you're wasting its boom and and duelist potential and...the Raven pokes better and will always poke better with the cockpit-level mounts and excellent frontal profile and more tonnage to work with (2x LPL).

[Bishop Steiner]

Monkey Lover, on 12 May 2017 - 04:14 PM, said:

I'm thinking of getting a refund on mine. No leg quirks is going to suck.

Maybe. Those legs are pretty dang skinny though, might make a difference.

But I got no horse in the race since I thought it looked like butt in the first place, and generally don't do Lights.

[Ted Wayz]

Yeonne Greene, on 12 May 2017 - 06:04 PM, said:

I mentioned them already in the previous post; it's the replacement for the Firestarter, essentially. Being 30 tons ought to give it a good size. You can LPL with this (using a single one and some MedLas), but you're wasting its boom and and duelist potential and...the Raven pokes better and will always poke better with the cockpit-level mounts and excellent frontal profile and more tonnage to work with (2x LPL).

And the depression is delivered.

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[Y E O N N E]

Ted Wayz, on 12 May 2017 - 06:24 PM, said:

And the depression is delivered.

Don't you hate it when people describe a band as sounds like...

I mean, what else is a Light to do? I suppose you could run LRMs on it if that's your jam, but generally it's either lasers or SRMs. None of them have ballistics. There are only so many lasers.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Edited by Yeonne Greene, 12 May 2017 - 06:28 PM.

[TheArisen]

Yeonne Greene, on 12 May 2017 - 06:28 PM, said:

I mean, what else is a Light to do? I suppose you could run LRMs on it if that's your jam, but generally it's either lasers or SRMs. None of them have ballistics. There are only so many lasers.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You could do a bunch of light ppcs soon but that'd be more of a lol build

[Y E O N N E]

TheArisen, on 12 May 2017 - 06:54 PM, said:

You could do a bunch of light ppcs soon but that'd be more of a lol build

You can fit three and some MedLas. Eh, why not just take a whole bunch of ERML and use the extra tons for DHS?

[Ted Wayz]

Yeonne Greene, on 12 May 2017 - 06:28 PM, said:

I mean, what else is a Light to do? I suppose you could run LRMs on it if that's your jam, but generally it's either lasers or SRMs. None of them have ballistics. There are only so many lasers.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

First, your comment speaks to how this game is focused solely on damage. Which is sad. The javelin is supposed to be a reconnaissance mech. Instead it will be a light that uses maneuverability, due to below average speed for a light, to get in and out of close combat, so people can unleash their short to medium range weapons.

Oh joy. Truly Christmas in May.

[roboPrancer]

Gauss Peep... Oh wait

Srms?

Forsooth.

[Monkey Lover]

Ted Wayz, on 12 May 2017 - 07:15 PM, said:

First, your comment speaks to how this game is focused solely on damage. Which is sad. The javelin is supposed to be a reconnaissance mech. Instead it will be a light that uses maneuverability, due to below average speed for a light, to get in and out of close combat, so people can unleash their short to medium range weapons.

Oh joy. Truly Christmas in May.

Ya you really don't need reconnaissance mechs when you have heavy mechs going over 100kph on small maps.

This is a srm spider that's all it is. I can't see anyone paying cash to run some lasers

Edited by Monkey Lover, 12 May 2017 - 07:31 PM.

[Y E O N N E]

Ted Wayz, on 12 May 2017 - 07:15 PM, said:

First, your comment speaks to how this game is focused solely on damage. Which is sad. The javelin is supposed to be a reconnaissance mech. Instead it will be a light that uses maneuverability, due to below average speed for a light, to get in and out of close combat, so people can unleash their short to medium range weapons.

Oh joy. Truly Christmas in May.

The Javelin can go 156 dude...it's not below average speed at all.

Also, sure, MWO has problems with other roles besides damage. But, then again, the entire reason to play this game is to pilot 'Mechs into combat against other 'Mechs. There's not a whole lot to do with reconnaissance. So I've spotted a target and relayed it to the team...now what?

[Alex Morgaine]

280xl.
Whatever else i can fit xD

[Queen of England]

Why would you put LPLs on a fast light mech? Its going to run either 4xSRM4, 6xSRM2, or 7xSPLs, depending on the variant. (Obviously those aren't the only options, but I think they'll be the most popular). I suppose that 4E variant might use LPLs, but its more likely to just not be used at all.

[WrathOfDeadguy]

You can do a humanoid jumping Oxide config on the 10N, 10P, or 11B (4xSRM4 + 4t ammo, 1xJJ, XL225) if you're willing to strip a whole mess of armor from your arms and head. 10P can, of course, do 6xSRM2... 10F is, obviously, the LL/LPL/PPC sniper of the lot... the 11A can do some SPL+MPL combos for 30+ point alphas... and Hi There! is what most of the Commandos and the Anansi wish they could be.

It won't be meta by any stretch of the imagination, but it shouldn't be DOA either. Remember that quirks are going to get screwed around (and mostly screwed up) with the Skill Tree anyway. I might try them when they're out for cbills. It's not a chassis that really excites me from a fanbody or a gameplay perspective, though.