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[Gyrok]

WTF?

4 terribad mechs they are trying to sell for real money? Every single one of those mechs is horrendous. The cbill variants are outright better in every case...and I do mean, they might just be the *worst* overall variants across the entire chassis for each mech.

What a joke...save your money, if you want a clan hero, buy one of the wave 2 heros or something. At least some of those will be decent/good.

[El Bandito]

Those heroes are not groundbreaking, but some of them do offer potentials other variants of those chassis do not have.

Highlander-IIC Hero can have 2xLB20X + 4xASRM6. Combined with its durability quirks, it can be a very tough brawler.

Hunchback-IIC Hero can equip a Gauss and a CERPPC on the STs to make for a highly sustainable sniper mech. No JJs, but the mounts are high already.

Jenner-IIC Hero and Orion-IIC Heroes are pretty darn mediocre though. Better complain to Russ as early as possible, cause he does change mechs' hardpoints depending on players' reaction.

Edited by El Bandito, 19 May 2017 - 11:33 PM.

[Dogstar]

The pictures are awesome and make it look like each one can fit any choice of meta

but when you read the actual hardpoints there's a distinct lack of impressiveness

I'd almost call this a bait and switch tactic - they need to fix the very deceptive artwork asap

[StealthdragonB]

El Bandito, on 19 May 2017 - 11:30 PM, said:

Hunchback-IIC Hero can equip a Gauss and a CERPPC on the STs to make for a highly sustainable sniper mech. No JJs, but the mounts are high already.

I wouldn't necessarily say it's unique, on the HBK IIC C, you can do the same, but with moving the ST ppc to the CT, which isn't that much worse in terms of elevation, and it can have JJs. Speaking of CT hardpoints, I just noticed this is the only hunch back to lack the dual CT energy hardpoints, I maybe they should add those for consistency along all HBK IICs?

[Aggravated Assault Mech]

Whatever about how competitive they are... they're just crazy ugly looking.

They remind me of Hotwheels... or some goober that vinyl wraps their car to look like a Hotwheel.

[xXBagheeraXx]

There is 0 reason to take an LBX highlander with the Scorch in the game.

0 reason to take the hunchback as a "sustainable sniper" the Dual PPC cbill hunchy can do that just fine and I belive it has jumpjets.

With the skill changes the standard Orion Is DAMMED GOOD now, you would literally just be better off getting the package for the origins Cbill orion now if you just HAD to get a hero Orion. better hardpoints across the board.


Off topic:

AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT IS ANNOYED THAT THEY KEEP PUTTING UP ARTWORK SHOWING THE MECHS LOADED DOWN WITH WEAPONS IN POSITIONS THEY CANT EVEN CARRY THEM IN? THE HERO ORION DOESN'T EVEN HAVE 2 BALLISTICS....ITS DECEPTIVE AND THEY NEED TO QUIT DOING THAT.

[Battlemaster56]

xXBagheeraXx, on 20 May 2017 - 12:53 AM, said:

Off topic:

AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT IS ANNOYED THAT THEY KEEP PUTTING UP ARTWORK SHOWING THE MECHS LOADED DOWN WITH WEAPONS IN POSITIONS THEY CANT EVEN CARRY THEM IN? THE HERO ORION DOESN'T EVEN HAVE 2 BALLISTICS....ITS DECEPTIVE AND THEY NEED TO QUIT DOING THAT.

Artwork does not reflect final loadouts

This have been settled already it's just their to show off the mech camo nothing less nothing more]

Edited by Battlemaster56, 20 May 2017 - 01:09 AM.

[xXBagheeraXx]

I know I know it just annoys me deeply.

[Decimus Antarii]

"Waaaah my new clan mechs arent overpowered."

[Juodas Varnas]

PGI makes op heroes: "Waaah, Heroes are pay to win"
PGI makes heroes that are not op: "Waaah, PGI is charging money for **** mechs"

Jesus Christ, you guys...

[Lupis Volk]

Decimus Antarii, on 20 May 2017 - 02:44 AM, said:

"Waaaah my new clan mechs arent overpowered."

"Oh excuse me, let me show you all the P2W IS hero mechs coming out soon, several get ecm when the chassis doesn't get it and that's before we get to hardpoints that other chassis don't have or makes the hero competitive. That's p2w according to this community."

Please educate yourself before you spout nonsense freebirth scum.

Juodas Varnas, on 20 May 2017 - 02:59 AM, said:

PGI makes Clan heroes: "Waaah, Heroes are pay to win"
PGI makes heroes IS op: "nothing to see here folks"

Jesus Christ, you guys...

ftfy

Edited by Lupis Volk, 20 May 2017 - 03:03 AM.

[Juodas Varnas]

Lupis Volk, on 20 May 2017 - 03:00 AM, said:

"Oh excuse me, let me show you all the P2W IS hero mechs coming out soon, several get ecm when the chassis doesn't get it and that's before we get to hardpoints that other chassis don't have or makes the hero competitive. That's p2w according to this community."

Please educate yourself before you spout nonsense freebirth scum.



ftfy

Sure dude.
Everything has to end in another Clan vs IS sh*tslinging show...

FFS people...

[Jay Leon Hart]

Lupis Volk, on 20 May 2017 - 03:00 AM, said:

"Oh excuse me, let me show you all the P2W IS hero mechs coming out soon, several get ecm when the chassis doesn't get it and that's before we get to hardpoints that other chassis don't have or makes the hero competitive. That's p2w according to this community."

Pretty sure I was calling some of those P2W as well, I guess people care less? Be it because they're BattleMechs and not OmniMechs. Be it because they're IS and not Clan. Be it because less people buy IS 'mechs for £££ and more people buy Clan 'mechs for £££. Who the frell knows. Feel free to campaign against the Resistance Heroes, you'll only save me more money

[Poptimus Rhyme Wallace]

If the point of the artwork is to show off the camo...

Then why in the nine hells do they add impressive weaponry that obfuscates said camo?
Clickbait artwork to make hasty buyers purchase without fact checking IS a thing, but this is just gross, straight up gross marketing...

[Jingseng]

I love how over the top the art is.... it's like, that is itself the warning that artwork does not reflect anything resembling factual data about the mech.

as for the hunchie IIc Hero, it IS unique. But you can get a huntsman that does the same, but mounts JJ (prime LT, B RT). So =p

Kinda funny though, having 'heroes' for 'second line' mechs (but since they are often superior to omnis, whatev)

Poptimus Rhyme Wallace, on 20 May 2017 - 03:26 AM, said:

If the point of the artwork is to show off the camo...

Then why in the nine hells do they add impressive weaponry that obfuscates said camo?
Clickbait artwork to make hasty buyers purchase without fact checking IS a thing, but this is just gross, straight up gross marketing...

I mean, man, If you think a 50 ton mech can mount 4 ppcs + some kind of autocannon (+ammo, etc.)....

Edit: sorry, make that 5 ppcs, TWO autocannons (10 or 20 since they are two barrel) and a laser... i mean, that amount of weaponry exceeds the weight of the mech itself. It's pretty obvious at first glance on all of them how ridiculous the weapon to chassis weight ratio is.

Edited by Jingseng, 20 May 2017 - 05:01 AM.

[Kalleballe]

Lauren the texture artist always render mechs with kitchen sink builds. Forgot why, you can ask her about it.

https://twitter.com/LaurenBamlett

[Widowmaker1981]

El Bandito, on 19 May 2017 - 11:30 PM, said:

Those heroes are not groundbreaking, but some of them do offer potentials other variants of those chassis do not have.

Highlander-IIC Hero can have 2xLB20X + 4xASRM6. Combined with its durability quirks, it can be a very tough brawler.

Hunchback-IIC Hero can equip a Gauss and a CERPPC on the STs to make for a highly sustainable sniper mech. No JJs, but the mounts are high already.

Jenner-IIC Hero and Orion-IIC Heroes are pretty darn mediocre though. Better complain to Russ as early as possible, cause he does change mechs' hardpoints depending on players' reaction.

Guess id agree with the brawler HGN, didnt see that use - tbh though Scorch > that.

Hunchback, i dont see how thats better than just using one of the ballistic variants and putting the PPC into the CT. get JJS that way, and better weapon durability, for a slight height drop on the PPC.

Edited by Widowmaker1981, 20 May 2017 - 05:57 AM.

[El Bandito]

Widowmaker1981, on 20 May 2017 - 05:57 AM, said:

Guess id agree with the brawler HGN, didnt see that use - tbh though Scorch > that.

Hunchback, i dont see how thats better than just using one of the ballistic variants and putting the PPC into the CT. get JJS that way, and better weapon durability, for a slight height drop on the PPC.

Except that variant will not have 30% C-Bill bonus, like this Hero.

[Widowmaker1981]

Juodas Varnas, on 20 May 2017 - 02:59 AM, said:

PGI makes op heroes: "Waaah, Heroes are pay to win"
PGI makes heroes that are not op: "Waaah, PGI is charging money for **** mechs"

Jesus Christ, you guys...

You know there is a middle ground between OP and trash, right?

For example they could have released the HGN with 2B in one arm and 2-3E in the other arm, like a Heavy Metal, and it would be interesting for full actuation, with the trade off of lower mounted energy. That would be interesting (to me anyway) but not OP.

Hunchback could maybe have had missile arms and energy torsos, maybe with less high mounts than the (say, 3M between the arms, 1 E in each ST and the CT) - different, but not OP. Current one is just bad.

Orion with MASC is the most interesting thing they did, but like the Wolverine MASC variant its over valued and the hardpoints are so bad its not worth using at all. Could have given it slightly better hardpoint numbers so its usable.

I dont really know what they could have done with the Jenner.. maybe a variant with ST weapons instead of arms.. 4E maybe.

What they have done is to release 4 mechs that have no place in the game

[Juodas Varnas]

Widowmaker1981, on 20 May 2017 - 06:06 AM, said:

What they have done is to release 4 mechs that have no place in the game

Just like every other clan mech.