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[KingCobra]

Has PGI gone back on there word one more time allowing sync dropping in solo MM?

Or has the game population become so small players cannot find games in group play where they belong?

This past few weeks I have seen so many players sync dropping in solo mm PGI must have broke down gone back on there word to never allow it in solo mm play or the MM is broken and bugged after the last few patches?

[Andi Nagasia]

Sync Dropping, PGI Promise?
um is this really a problem, their are many factors and how would you stop it?
also with the Tier system theirs no guarantee that you will drop with your party,
as well as no guarantee that you will all be on the same side,

Edited by Andi Nagasia, 25 May 2017 - 07:55 PM.

[El Bandito]

Never seen sync dropping as an issue for a long time, in SQ.

[slide]

It has never been enforced, ever. I play in OC which always has a low population. I frequently encounter other members of ARMD in game. There is no collusion or intent. It just happens that 2 or 3 people hit launch at the same time and MM puts together what ever works at that time.

With the skill tree launching there are probably a greater number of people dropping solo as they skill up and test mechs. This is easier to do in QP and more polite than making a group wait whilst you stuff around in the mech lab.

I wouldn't worry about it. Most guys I know will be more worried about their unit mate than they will about you (bragging rights etc)

Edited by slide, 25 May 2017 - 07:57 PM.

[KingCobra]

Andi Nagasia, on 25 May 2017 - 07:53 PM, said:

Sync Dropping, PGI Promise?
um is this really a problem, their are many factors and how would you stop it?
also with the Tier system theirs no guarantee that you will drop with your party,
as well as no guarantee that you will all be on the same side,

Well Andi its like El bandito said it has been a long long time since I have see so many sync droppers in solo mm perhaps its just a bug in a patch I would hate to think it a new exploits players are using to get a advantage in solo mm again.

Because after PGI basically banned sync dropping in solo mm the battles became way more balanced.


P.S The sync droppers I have seen in solo mm were 90% on the same side Andi ASK Unit -SO- how they did it?

Edited by KingCobra, 25 May 2017 - 08:30 PM.

[Johnny Z]

KingCobra, on 25 May 2017 - 08:03 PM, said:

Well Andi its like El bandito said it has been a long long time since I have see so many sync droppers in solo mm perhaps its just a bug in a patch I would hate to think it a new exploits players are using to get a advantage in solo mm again.

Because after PGI basically banned sync dropping in solo mm the battles became way more balanced.


P.S The sync droppers I have seen in solo mm were 90% on the same side Andi ASK Unit -SO- how they did it?

If it makes you feel any better, balance is their top concern.

[MrJeffers]

KingCobra, on 25 May 2017 - 08:03 PM, said:

Well Andi its like El bandito said it has been a long long time since I have see so many sync droppers in solo mm perhaps its just a bug in a patch I would hate to think it a new exploits players are using to get a advantage in solo mm again.

Because after PGI basically banned sync dropping in solo mm the battles became way more balanced.


P.S The sync droppers I have seen in solo mm were 90% on the same side Andi ASK Unit -SO- how they did it?

Because they were not sync dropping.

Just because people on the same unit end up in the same match doesn't mean it's a sync drop. It means solo players went into the queue at within a minute or two of each other.

You see, unit members when leveling or testing mechs frequently solo drop so they are not impeding the group in group queue. So when there are new mechs, balance passes, or new things like say *skill tree* people tend to solo drop more.

it's that simple.

[Johnny Z]

Topics like this are great, its barely started and the excuses are all over the map already.

Cmon guys shouldn't there be a united "your crazy" front like usual?

[MrJeffers]

Johnny Z, on 25 May 2017 - 08:41 PM, said:

Topics like this are great, its barely started and the excuses are all over the map already.

Cmon guys shouldn't there be a united "your crazy" front like usual?

All over the map? There are like two people who answered 'it's not sync dropping' and both said basically the exact same thing.

Keep that tin foil suit growing though - it fits you well.

[Y E O N N E]

I don't recall PGI ever banning sync dropping. They removed the ability to play in proper groups in Solos, and that's really all they can do. Banning sync-dropping is unenforceable.

[Carl Vickers]

Meh, a couple of unit members happen to hit the quick play button at the same time and either end up on the same side or opposing team, really, who cares.

[justcallme A S H]

KingCobra, on 25 May 2017 - 07:45 PM, said:

Has PGI gone back on there word one more time allowing sync dropping in solo MM?

Or has the game population become so small players cannot find games in group play where they belong?

This past few weeks I have seen so many players sync dropping in solo mm PGI must have broke down gone back on there word to never allow it in solo mm play or the MM is broken and bugged after the last few patches?

Proof of PGI promise please. Otherwise this will get added to the every growing list of unsubstantiated claims you make:

1. PGI changing backend code to alter TBR hitboxes (which hasn't happened) HERE
2. You can't use the quote function, even after 4 years (which you slipped up on a month ago)
3. I am intimidated by teams in FP and avoid them (most absurd claim ever) HERE

And now this:

4. PGI promised to stop sync dropping

Man you really do wear the tinfoil hat? Population is low right now, so people will end up in the same matches. And if you "sync drop" there is no guarantee you'll end up on the same side.

We usually sync drop in Oceanic, a bunch of people from different units all get on a single TS for a laugh. Usually ends up being 50/50 split across teams and a barrel of laughs for an hour or two.

KingCobra, on 25 May 2017 - 08:03 PM, said:

P.S The sync droppers I have seen in solo mm were 90% on the same side Andi ASK Unit -SO- how they did it?

Once again, proof of:

1. They were sync dropping
2. They were on the same sides 90% of the time.


I bet as usual, we'll never see any proof of anything.

Edited by justcallme A S H, 25 May 2017 - 08:53 PM.

[Jingseng]

as it turns out, people in a unit do not always play with each other.

Additionally, WHAT precisely is the payout for the collusion? Or, really, the perceived issue?

Pugs rarely organize in any sort of way at all... some dude on a team says "guy in my unit on the other side says X units at coordinates" and suddenly everyone listens to him? No one suspects it's a trap?

When you get like say, 5 of a unit on one side and 3 or so of the same unit on the other side, maybe then i'll believe there is sync dropping... if it happens repeatedly (because even small units serendipitously form multiple small groups... not everyone in a unit gets along with every other member in a unit, and even when they do... some nights some members just want to goof off and some members had a bad day and are taking everything way too serious...)

But really, when two guys from the same unit, maybe THREE guys (gasp) end up on opposite sides in a QP pug...

1) what do you imagine is happening?

2) How do you imagine them affecting the outcome?

3) Why do you think it is being done (in other words, why do they go to the effort and energy of attempting to do this, which might not succeed/happen in the first place, opposed to just playing?)

[Johnny Z]

MrJeffers, on 25 May 2017 - 08:44 PM, said:

All over the map? There are like two people who answered 'it's not sync dropping' and both said basically the exact same thing.

Keep that tin foil suit growing though - it fits you well.

Ya don't get creative stick to the script.

Edited by Johnny Z, 25 May 2017 - 09:03 PM.

[justcallme A S H]

Jingseng, on 25 May 2017 - 09:01 PM, said:

Spoiler

as it turns out, people in a unit do not always play with each other.

Additionally, WHAT precisely is the payout for the collusion? Or, really, the perceived issue?

Pugs rarely organize in any sort of way at all... some dude on a team says "guy in my unit on the other side says X units at coordinates" and suddenly everyone listens to him? No one suspects it's a trap?

When you get like say, 5 of a unit on one side and 3 or so of the same unit on the other side, maybe then i'll believe there is sync dropping... if it happens repeatedly (because even small units serendipitously form multiple small groups... not everyone in a unit gets along with every other member in a unit, and even when they do... some nights some members just want to goof off and some members had a bad day and are taking everything way too serious...)

But really, when two guys from the same unit, maybe THREE guys (gasp) end up on opposite sides in a QP pug...

1) what do you imagine is happening?

2) How do you imagine them affecting the outcome?

3) Why do you think it is being done (in other words, why do they go to the effort and energy of attempting to do this, which might not succeed/happen in the first place, opposed to just playing?)

It's quite simple. Go through and read the point 3 thread I linked, read from the start.

KingCornSnake quite simply, hates group play or any sort of perceived organisation that then means he gets steamrolled. I mean he gets steamrolled not due to organisation but because he is not a good player (as Avg Match score clearly proves), but it's easier to complain about it than actually try to improve ones abilities.

[Johnny Z]

justcallme A S H, on 25 May 2017 - 09:06 PM, said:

It's quite simple. Go through and read the point 3 thread I linked, read from the start.

KingCornSnake quite simply, hates group play or any sort of perceived organisation that then means he gets steamrolled. I mean he gets steamrolled not due to organisation but because he is not a good player (as Avg Match score clearly proves), but it's easier to complain about it than actually try to improve ones abilities.

Your jumping ahead, this topic isn't about if synch dropping is causing stomps. If it was the "your crazy" brigade would have already swarmed the topic.

Edited by Johnny Z, 25 May 2017 - 09:12 PM.

[justcallme A S H]

Well I suppose CarpetSnake implied there might have been hacking, or at the least "exploits" (LOL) going on...

KingCobra, on 25 May 2017 - 08:03 PM, said:

Well Andi its like El bandito said it has been a long long time since I have see so many sync droppers in solo mm perhaps its just a bug in a patch I would hate to think it a new exploits players are using to get a advantage in solo mm again.

Because after PGI basically banned sync dropping in solo mm the battles became way more balanced.

P.S The sync droppers I have seen in solo mm were 90% on the same side Andi ASK Unit -SO- how they did it?

So no surprise you're posting in here.

[Siegegun]

I end up in the same matches as my unit mates, no sync dropping involved. Sometimes I did not even know they were logged on until I see them.

OP you are seeing things that are not there.

[Andi Nagasia]

KingCobra, on 25 May 2017 - 08:03 PM, said:

P.S The sync droppers I have seen in solo mm were 90% on the same side Andi ASK Unit -SO- how they did it?

well i would ask how many were there in game, you say 90% so was it 10 people and 9 where on one side?
thats also unlikely, as all 10 would have to be in the same tier and the MM had to put them on the same side,
thats Lotto levels of lucky, not saying it couldnt happen, as it could but its extremely rare,

that said i may know how things like this happen,
when i drop with my Unit, we usually have Comp Practices,
after we split off and most of the time we do Pug Drops to test load outs,
some times we link up, we arnt meaning to Sync drop we just do,

that said when we do, do such, i usually dont see more than 1-2 of my Unit Mates in match,
and usually they are on the opposite team, i give my usual (o7) to my Unit Mate, and play as normal,

Edited by Andi Nagasia, 25 May 2017 - 09:42 PM.

[Trev Firestorm]

Sync dropping is: unnecessary due to group queue; not really a problem anyway due to ingame voip. Seriously who cares, why is this a topic?
Oh and usually end up split between teams.

Edited by Trev Firestorm, 25 May 2017 - 09:23 PM.