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[justcallme A S H]

Gwei Loong, on 26 May 2017 - 01:18 AM, said:

Not just an opinion. The last thread on this topic got locked. Anyway if you want to sync drop check out some of the TS and Discord channels. https://www.mechspec...rver-list.8806/

Sometimes if I find the right channels I have heard guys talking about games I was in. Not hard to do but either way synchronized dropping is obviously an exploit.

https://mwomercs.com...ms/page__st__40

Synchronized dropping is an attempted exploitation or manipulation of the matchmaking system, and is thus a violation of the Code of Conduct.

As noted in the thread above, such misconduct can be reported for game moderator review. This can be done through the in-game player context-menu or by emailing moderation@mwomercs.com with any details and/or evidence available. Considering the nature of the violation, the latter may be more useful. The report may then be reviewed to investigate potentially problematic behavior or circumstances of coincidence.

So a public moderator, not PGI staff - closes a thread cause he's told to.

OK.

Has anyone ever been banned? No.
Has anyone ever been warned? No.
Can you prove people were actually doing it and it's not just random chance? No.
It is actually exploiting if two teams just happen to click the same time, same unit without knowing? No.

See where it's heading? It's not an issue, it never will be.

[justcallme A S H]

No word of a lie - in Oceanic, you almost HAVE to get a bunch of people dropping at the same time if you do not want to wait 10-15mins for a match which is pretty much, most weeknights.

Not one of us has ever been warned because we are usually the only 24 people playing... Hell people have even STREAMED it on Twitch... We are all still here!

[Bud Crue]

KingCobra, on 25 May 2017 - 08:03 PM, said:

P.S The sync droppers I have seen in solo mm were 90% on the same side Andi ASK Unit -SO- how they did it?

Late to the party. Sorry for returning to page 1, but I just saw the above and must address it.

I was with SO for over a year and when I moved on at the end of phase 2, we had over 400 members and if I recall correctly exactly 472 at the time of my departure. When a lot of us were on we might have 5 12-mans going at once (that's the most I ever recall seeing at once), moreover we also dropped with every one else on the FRR TS so we might have had dozens dropping outside of those 12-mans as well. It was often the case that we would end up fighting each other, and often...almost the norm...for the smaller mixed bands to see each other all evening as groups broke up and reformed. Some matches we fought together some we fought each other. Never once was their any effort to collude in some sort of "sync" drop...such would have taken far too much effort to accomplish in our typical inebriated states, even if we had wanted to.

[Gwei Loong]

justcallme A S H, on 26 May 2017 - 03:59 AM, said:

So a public moderator, not PGI staff - closes a thread cause he's told to.

OK.

Has anyone ever been banned? No.
Has anyone ever been warned? No.
Can you prove people were actually doing it and it's not just random chance? No.
It is actually exploiting if two teams just happen to click the same time, same unit without knowing? No.

See where it's heading? It's not an issue, it never will be.

Your funny. I am not a public moderator, it's quoted from the link I provided. Not even in my own words, a direct quot from PGI staff. Your arguing a moot point that's already been discussed and closed.
I never said it was an issue the OP did and I just stated a fact that you seemed to be unaware of. There are lots of YouTube videos proving it but I like the one the TheBeef posted where they are literally dropping as a group off a platform.
This is not reddit and you don't need to like your posts. I feel like that says a lot about you... Drama 8oP
So don't get so crazy, you are barking up the wrong tree. I personally feel it's only a thing for stat warriors and try hards; never said I cared. Many people do not care and solo que stats don't mean a thing in this game. Tier doesn't even mean a thing in this game anymore. When people were gaming the MM to win those 1000mc prizes on the leader board challenges that was "maybe" a thing but you cannot win MC anymore.

Edited by Gwei Loong, 26 May 2017 - 04:54 AM.

[justcallme A S H]

I never said you were. Read my post and try again.

Moderators are not PGI staff, again, read my post.

[Gwei Loong]

Oh I never noticed that he wasn't even staff before, sorry. Glad we could get that cleared up.

[sycocys]

Lol, I didn't even see that he was calling out -SO-....

Should have picked a unit that actually trolls the game and people might have bought into the argument a little bit.

[HGAK47]

Great! It means they can tell their friends when they're dead!

[KingCobra]

sycocys, on 26 May 2017 - 05:11 AM, said:

Lol, I didn't even see that he was calling out -SO-....

Should have picked a unit that actually trolls the game and people might have bought into the argument a little bit.

Not calling out anyone they -SO- were just the last ones I reported to PGI for sync dropping.

[Marquis De Lafayette]

When my friends & I sync drop on a lark it's really so we can kill each other...we are happy to be on opposite sides....SHOCKING, I know!!

If we wanted to be on the same side, well group queue would ensure it!

[sycocys]

KingCobra, on 26 May 2017 - 09:29 AM, said:

Not calling out anyone they -SO- were just the last ones I reported to PGI for sync dropping.

Well I can pretty much guarantee you that those guys weren't sync dropping.

People end up on the same unit or opposite team all the time, there's just not a huge population that plays all the time and people in units tend to be online at the same time - which is one of the reason then ended up in the same unit.

Compound that with server selection because people usually don't want ****** ping rates and the player pool shrinks further.

Most people just log on, grab a mech and maybe tinker a bit, then hit quick drop. Open up comms while they wait to see if anyone is online and setting up groups. If FW isn't looking busy they just keep quick dropping until they have a room large enough to fill a worthwhile team for a group drop (i.e. its really not worth it for most people under a lance or lance and a half).

And if the group queue is slow a lot of times people will just chat on comms and do quick drops.
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Lets just say by the numbers -
There's 1,000 active players looking to drop.
500 in the N/A pool only.
24 per match (we'll round to 25 so its easy math) 20 matches set up.
Out of those 20 matches, they are trying to align weights - 2 guys go heavy, one guy goes light.
Since most units are all roughly the same tier - MM will probably split the heavies and give one side the light because that's the fastest way to compile a match.

Its not sync dropping, its just how the MM works with the split server pools, tiers, weights, and luck of the draw.

Reporting people for ending up in the same match, probably something you should reconsider because it won't take long and PGI will just flag your reports for file 13.

[Bud Crue]

Marquis De Lafayette, on 26 May 2017 - 09:47 AM, said:

When my friends & I sync drop on a lark it's really so we can kill each other...we are happy to be on opposite sides....SHOCKING, I know!!

If we wanted to be on the same side, well group queue would ensure it!

If they could come up with a way to reward XP and Cbills in privte matches (that couldn't be scammed), then not only would no one do what you describe...but half the population would disappear from the QP queue overnight.

Dare to dream.

[sycocys]

Bud Crue, on 26 May 2017 - 09:57 AM, said:

If they could come up with a way to reward XP and Cbills in privte matches (that couldn't be scammed), then not only would no one do what you describe...but half the population would disappear from the QP queue overnight.

Dare to dream.

Just need to reward tiny amounts of both.

Really though other than the fact QP would take a massive hit, it really wouldn't hurt PGI since it requires premium time - they could run full or near full rewards other than win/l bonuses and just change it so every player needs PT and they'd probably end up with more money for their trouble.

[R Valentine]

How exactly do you stop sync dropping?

[Felicitatem Parco]

KingCobra, on 25 May 2017 - 07:45 PM, said:

Has PGI gone back on there word one more time allowing sync dropping in solo MM?

Or has the game population become so small players cannot find games in group play where they belong?

This past few weeks I have seen so many players sync dropping in solo mm PGI must have broke down gone back on there word to never allow it in solo mm play or the MM is broken and bugged after the last few patches?

Yes, I distinctly remember PGI promising to stop people from clicking PLAY at the same time. Because they can totally do that .

[Mechteric]

It pretty much never happens, and there's just as good chance they get opposing teams as the same team. So, programmatically speaking there's nothing that can be done.

[draiocht]

As was noted several posts above:

Synchronized dropping is an attempted exploitation or manipulation of the matchmaking system, and is thus a violation of the Code of Conduct.

Such misconduct can be reported for game moderator review. This can be done through the in-game player context-menu or by emailing moderation@mwomercs.com with any details and/or evidence available. Considering the nature of the violation, the latter may be more useful. The report may then be reviewed to investigate potentially problematic behavior or circumstances of coincidence.

[mod]As discussion of exploits or cheats is not permitted on the forums,
this thread is now closed.[/mod]