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[Kaoba]

Dude this FP complaining is really boring, OP this OP that, Units Op etc.... I started to play on this year January, although I tried on 2013 but left. First thing I did was to spam quick for like 3 weeks until I became decent enough for FP(never made a single LRM mech) or at least that was my thought, first matches on CW were pure stomps for like 3 weeks and plus I realized I was terribad atm, the play style was different from quick play, even if I did good score I was only winning like 1/10 games due to facing units....and well I didn't went to the forums to complain and cry, I decided to look for a unit and try to get better since I wanted to play good matches, not potato fest of solo gameplay, and well eventually I started to play with my actual unit and dudeeee was the best thing evaaaa, I learned a lot just playing with them I went from potato 500dmg to actually a decent player, heck on last Tukkayid we got to face comp playaaaa teams from div a and winning the matches, on top of that I made a lot of friends wich makes the gameplay more enjoyable and fun ( actual reason why I still play cause playing with mates and having fun is the best thing about the game). I got the fact than maybe some ppl just want to play casual but that doesn't stop to group with some unit and play cordinated, and like I said if you are a solo player getting stomp you can fix that by yourself, complaining is not gonna make you play better.
PD:Even with solo queue on FP, good players will dominate matches and get 5K scores Ez due to the amount of potatoes ( and recent armor increase overall) and dont forget about sync drop

[Vxheous]

Sexy, when you coming back to AW0L TS server? I have this song queued for you:

[Commander A9]

Finally, someone who speaks the truth!

[Kaoba]

Vxheous Kerensky, on 29 May 2017 - 03:04 PM, said:

Sexy, when you coming back to AW0L TS server? I have this song queued for you:

hey last night i send you a message in game and even went to the TS, your guy launch too fast
BTW i dance dat **** all the time bruuuuhhh SABOR LATINO [color=#000000]

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[Leggin Ho]

Yeah, ran into your favoritefriend last night, he was much less vocal after the loss then....lol

[Kaoba]

Vxheous Kerensky, on 29 May 2017 - 03:04 PM, said:

Sexy, when you coming back to AW0L TS server? I have this song queued for you:

BTW fun fact: at some point i tried to join AWOL and you told me they were not recruiting

[Vxheous]

WayTooSexy, on 29 May 2017 - 03:15 PM, said:

BTW fun fact: at some point i tried to join AWOL and you told me they were not recruiting

I did no such thing, we would have taken you b4 you joined evil. Lets get some drops in tonight, I should be on in about 2 hrs

[justcallme A S H]

Vxheous Kerensky, on 29 May 2017 - 03:04 PM, said:

Sexy, when you coming back to AW0L TS server? I have this song queued for you:

haha I can see Sexy rockin' out in his chair to that right now doing the singalong and all.

Leggin Ho, on 29 May 2017 - 03:13 PM, said:

Yeah, ran into your favoritefriend last night, he was much less vocal after the loss then....lol

I got reported for "harrasment" over the weekend & I can only think of two games where there was any "abuse" flung given the amount of teams we played and all the good games against good people mostly.

I guess that is what you get for playing well these days. People just wanna bait you, abuse you for "hacking" and then report you for defending yourself by bringing you down for being better than them

[Leggin Ho]

Well if that's the case, I have the drop recorded if you need it, you know the one I'm talking about.

[justcallme A S H]

Cheers man. I thought someone might. I have a dozen screenshots myself so wait and see where it heads.
I'll have to record all my matches now if this whats going to happen

[Leggin Ho]

Well let me know if you need it, guess I'll be reported next....lol

[Jumping Gigolo]

FP = farming potatoes. some things never changed afterall

[Monkey Lover]

Tier 1 player was only making 500 dmg in cw running solo? Haha

This sounds like another gitgud CW is fine propaganda post

Good luck populating a mode where only the top players can win.

[MischiefSC]

FW plays different. Takes some adjustment. I get the desire to say nobody plays FW and gets good but there's hundreds of units full of players who have.

Hence the frustration with people who refuse to do so. All of us did.

[Kaoba]

Monkey Lover, on 03 June 2017 - 07:09 AM, said:

Tier 1 player was only making 500 dmg in cw running solo? Haha

This sounds like another gitgud CW is fine propaganda post

Good luck populating a mode where only the top players can win.

Lol did I say I was tier 1 when I started to try CW?

[Monkey Lover]

WayTooSexy, on 03 June 2017 - 07:42 AM, said:

Lol did I say I was tier 1 when I started to try CW?

You still got to tier 1 lots of people can't get there they will never be at this level and there is nothing wrong with this. A unit doesn't turn people into winning machines.

People just say this so it makes it ok to farm lower skilled teams.

This mode needs a basic match maker and there is 100% no reason it shouldn't.

[Pat Kell]

Monkey Lover, on 03 June 2017 - 07:53 AM, said:

You still got to tier 1 lots of people can't get there they will never be at this level and there is nothing wrong with this. A unit doesn't turn people into winning machines.

People just say this so it makes it ok to farm lower skilled teams.

This mode needs a basic match maker and there is 100% no reason it shouldn't.

That is just flat out wrong, in every single comment you made. I am not a very good solo player and when I drop in CW and decide to go off on my own and see how I can fair in some random 1v1 duels, I often get beat. Yet when I stick with my team and we work together, we win almost all the time. Your statement that a unit doesn't turn people into winning machines is just flat out wrong and our unit as well as many others proves it. Granted, just because you put 12 people together with the same tags doesn't mean you will win all the time, you actually have to put in a little work of moving together and supporting each other but it's not different than if you did this with 12 randoms. If 12 randoms got together and worked as a team, they would be a winning machine. The problem isn't the individual players on a team are bad, it's that they are selfish, unwilling to work with the team and are too focused on their own personal performance. They would rather do 2K plus damage than share their armor or move up with the team and support a push etc etc.

It is ok to farm lower skilled teams if those teams sign up to play in a mode that was designed to not have a matchmaker and pit you against whoever shows up at your doorstep. What are we supposed to do, charge the enemy backwards? eject our first wave? (we have done that before btw and were praised by some for doing it and called elitist jerks by others). No, you drop in CW, you take the risk of playing against some very good, well coordinated teams.

There are lots of reasons for not putting a matchmaker in CW, you just chose to ignore all of those reasons. Too low of population, difficult to code (possibly, I have no idea really, just heard it said around a few times), lack of resources from PGI and pitting people against whoever you come up against is part of the excitement for me. I love fighting good teams and honestly, if there was a MM in CW, it's possible that I would never get to fight them because they may be in a higher tier than I am. You are free to argue any of these points you like but saying that "there is 100% no reason it shouldn't" is demonstrably wrong.

[Jaybles-The-PegLeg-PotatoCaptain]

Monkey Lover, on 03 June 2017 - 07:53 AM, said:

You still got to tier 1 lots of people can't get there they will never be at this level and there is nothing wrong with this. A unit doesn't turn people into winning machines.

People just say this so it makes it ok to farm lower skilled teams.

This mode needs a basic match maker and there is 100% no reason it shouldn't.

Can you explain how the matchmaker will function?


Because I don't see it changing much of anything. Let's say there are 9 top flight FW teams. Let's also say that 3 are NA time zone, 3 are EU, and 3 are oceanic. We'll call them tier 1 teams. These 9 teams will crush anyone outside of their tier 1 bracket. So It is NA prime time and the 3 NA teams are dropping. The match maker keeps pairing 2 of the 3 teams. Leaving the 3rd team to either wait in queue for 30 minutes(now you are back to stupid long wait times) for another top team to queue up or get paired with seals and club away.

A long time ago groups used to be limited to 4 or 12. 4 man groups could drop into the public QP queue with solos. 12 mans dropped into the 12 man queue. The 12 man queue was very sparsely populated(So much so that you could reliable sync drop for marik civil war etc.), You fought whoever was there. FW functions much the same way. You fight whoever is queued up.

The only way a matchmaker works is if you make the entire game mode solo only, which completely defeats the purpose of FW.

[PFC Carsten]

Pat Kell, on 03 June 2017 - 08:37 AM, said:

That is just flat out wrong, in every single comment you made. I am not a very good solo player and when I drop in CW and decide to go off on my own and see how I can fair in some random 1v1 duels, I often get beat. Yet when I stick with my team and we work together, we win almost all the time. Your statement that a unit doesn't turn people into winning machines is just flat out wrong and our unit as well as many others proves it. Granted, just because you put 12 people together with the same tags doesn't mean you will win all the time, you actually have to put in a little work of moving together and supporting each other but it's not different than if you did this with 12 randoms. If 12 randoms got together and worked as a team, they would be a winning machine. The problem isn't the individual players on a team are bad, it's that they are selfish, unwilling to work with the team and are too focused on their own personal performance. They would rather do 2K plus damage than share their armor or move up with the team and support a push etc etc.

It is ok to farm lower skilled teams if those teams sign up to play in a mode that was designed to not have a matchmaker and pit you against whoever shows up at your doorstep. What are we supposed to do, charge the enemy backwards? eject our first wave? (we have done that before btw and were praised by some for doing it and called elitist jerks by others). No, you drop in CW, you take the risk of playing against some very good, well coordinated teams.

There are lots of reasons for not putting a matchmaker in CW, you just chose to ignore all of those reasons. Too low of population, difficult to code (possibly, I have no idea really, just heard it said around a few times), lack of resources from PGI and pitting people against whoever you come up against is part of the excitement for me. I love fighting good teams and honestly, if there was a MM in CW, it's possible that I would never get to fight them because they may be in a higher tier than I am. You are free to argue any of these points you like but saying that "there is 100% no reason it shouldn't" is demonstrably wrong.

Great example of the mindset leading to Faction Play to the place where it is today. No more comment needed.

[Pat Kell]

PFC Carsten, on 03 June 2017 - 08:42 AM, said:

Great example of the mindset leading to Faction Play to the place where it is today. No more comment needed.

That's the second time you have said this and refused to give any back up statements. Neither myself nor any other person or unit is responsible for or led to the low population numbers we allegedly see in CW currently. People deciding to quit is what led to the low participation rate. Saying anything else is merely anecdotal or completely lacking of any evidence whatsoever. So you are correct, no more comment is needed because nothing you can say would be capable of proving that myself or any other player or unit is responsible for what is happening in CW. It would just be full of anecdotal evidence and gut feelings. Which are necessarily wrong by default, but certainly aren't capable of proving what you are asserting, which is that my mindset is what has caused our current situation.