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[Snazzy Dragon]

Why is the one with the CT laser hardpoint significantly better than the one without them? Why does the full set of 8 on the Warhawk C have better quad ER PPC potential than the Warhawk Prime that has 4 ER PPCs stock? The C even gets better energy heat reduction! AAAAAAAAA

What I'm asking for:

BUFF the Warhawk Prime set of 8. NERF the Warhawk C's energy heat reduction.

Edited by Snazzy Dragon, 02 June 2017 - 02:27 PM.

[Vxheous]

Don't ruin a good thing

[Angel of Annihilation]

Now you have done it......INCOMING NERF FOR WARHAWK C!!!!

Never let PGI know something is better than another thing because we know all mechs much be equally garbage or PGI isn't happy.

[Paigan]

Vxheous Kerensky, on 02 June 2017 - 01:14 PM, said:

Don't ruin a good thing

Viktor Drake, on 02 June 2017 - 01:19 PM, said:

Now you have done it......INCOMING NERF FOR WARHAWK C!!!!

Never let PGI know something is better than another thing because we know all mechs much be equally garbage or PGI isn't happy.

This!!!

Shhhhh, goddammit! Or they'll notice how OP the current WHK-C quirks are!

I mean ... uhm ... WHK is a piece of garbage! Needz buff, please! Worst Mech evah.

Edited by Paigan, 02 June 2017 - 01:22 PM.

[Deathlike]

The only reason you'd even consider the Warhawk-Prime... was lrms missiles. Even then, you are better off with the Warhawk-B at that point.

The only reason the Warhawk-Prime had LRMs was TT and ammo explosions. That's it.

A proper Warhawk is one that does all the PPCs.

[Angel of Annihilation]

Actually if we are taking TT, Warhawk with Quad LPLs was a beast. Even with a medicore pilot, between the to hit bonuses of the LPL and the Targeting Computer, you had something like a 80% hit rate with LPLs even at their max range. Oh and I could mount enough DHS to move and fire each and every round without generating any heat what so ever. In the end there was nothing I couldn't rip apart with a guarenteed 3-4 LPL hits each and every round.

[Snazzy Dragon]

Vxheous Kerensky, on 02 June 2017 - 01:14 PM, said:

Don't ruin a good thing

I don't know if I can argue on the behalf of a cER PPC with the heat profile of an IS ER PPC on a clan assault mech. Even if it is a mobile home mech using it.

Edited by Snazzy Dragon, 02 June 2017 - 01:38 PM.

[Vxheous]

Snazzy Dragon, on 02 June 2017 - 01:37 PM, said:

I don't know if I can argue on the behalf of a cER PPC with the heat profile of an IS ER PPC on a clan assault mech. Even if it is a mobile home mech using it.

The warhawk has low slung arms and the profile of a Dire Whale. This is actually making the Warhawk viable right now

[Deathlike]

Vxheous Kerensky, on 02 June 2017 - 01:43 PM, said:

The warhawk has low slung arms and the profile of a Dire Whale. This is actually making the Warhawk viable right now

I don't think that's the case necessarily.

While you can go with CLPL spam, CERPPC spam is still effective to a degree, if not better. It just wouldn't be my first choice of Assault these days (that goes to the Marauder-IIC).

[Gas Guzzler]

What the player base would want: Buff WHK-Prime

What we will get: Nerf WHK-C (We felt that it didn't make sense for the WHK-Prime to have worse 4 ER PPC potential than the WHK-C, so we brought the -C variant inline.)

[Vxheous]

Gas Guzzler, on 02 June 2017 - 02:13 PM, said:

What the player base would want: Buff WHK-Prime

What we will get: Nerf WHK-C (We felt that it didn't make sense for the WHK-Prime to have worse 4 ER PPC potential than the WHK-C, so we brought the -C variant inline.)

Warhawk prime has some nice structure quirks right now. Basically a choice of 4 ERPPC on a tanky warhawk prime, or 4 ERPPC with better heat gen warhawk c

[Snazzy Dragon]

Vxheous Kerensky, on 02 June 2017 - 02:16 PM, said:

Warhawk prime has some nice structure quirks right now. Basically a choice of 4 ERPPC on a tanky warhawk prime, or 4 ERPPC with better heat gen warhawk c

11 CT structure or a potential 23.5% reduction of energy heat? Hmmmm........

[Vxheous]

Snazzy Dragon, on 02 June 2017 - 02:18 PM, said:

11 CT structure or a potential 23.5% reduction of energy heat? Hmmmm........

It works well with the defense tree. One of my unit members runs his prime that way, seems to work well. It would be tankiness vs 13% reduction, since both have access to 10.5% skill tree

Edited by Vxheous Kerensky, 02 June 2017 - 02:23 PM.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Vxheous Kerensky, on 02 June 2017 - 02:22 PM, said:

It would be tankiness vs 13% reduction, since both have access to 10.5% skill tree

It's 9% since the Prime does have some heat gen quirks (I think it is 4%), but 9% heat gen > 11 CT structure and 7.5% velocity.

[FupDup]

Viktor Drake, on 02 June 2017 - 01:35 PM, said:

Actually if we are taking TT, Warhawk with Quad LPLs was a beast. Even with a medicore pilot, between the to hit bonuses of the LPL and the Targeting Computer, you had something like a 80% hit rate with LPLs even at their max range. Oh and I could mount enough DHS to move and fire each and every round without generating any heat what so ever. In the end there was nothing I couldn't rip apart with a guarenteed 3-4 LPL hits each and every round.

The quad LPL Wubhawk in TT was actually heat neutral with just the 20 hardwired DHS. You didn't even have to add a single heatsink to it.

[Snazzy Dragon]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 02 June 2017 - 02:37 PM, said:

It's 9% since the Prime does have some heat gen quirks (I think it is 4%), but 9% heat gen > 11 CT structure and 7.5% velocity.

Targeting computer can make up for he velocity anyway if you really hurt for it. Huzzah!

[Jackal Noble]

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First World clan issues. SMH. Light the torches.

[Jackal Noble]

Ermargerd Leave Warhawkney alone !!!!!

[jjm1]

Went to check my Warhawk quirks, confronted by a hundred entries of skill tree upgrades to search through. That enhancements list needs some serious fixing.

[Snazzy Dragon]

jjm1, on 02 June 2017 - 03:46 PM, said:

Went to check my Warhawk quirks, confronted by a hundred entries of skill tree upgrades to search through. That enhancements list needs some serious fixing.

\You can check the base quirks in the store.