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[Clint Steel]

So I understand that selling Mechs is where PGI makes their money, but without maps the Mechs mean little.

They can't directly sell maps, since it would fracture the community but maybe there is another way for them to justify the investment.

They could use a crowdfunding platform, like kickstarter, where the community could show their support for new maps monetarily.

To encourage people to donate to the crowdfunding campaign, they could be rewarded those who pledge with in game items from unique decals to unique mech skins, depending on the amount donated.

This would be a benefit to all, PGI would have help funding new maps (since they don't generate income directly) while giving the general community new maps, which the game needs to stay fresh.

[I_AM_ZUUL]

Clint Steel, on 10 June 2017 - 01:32 PM, said:

So I understand that selling Mechs is where PGI makes their money, but without maps the Mechs mean little.

They can't directly sell maps, since it would fracture the community but maybe there is another way for them to justify the investment.

They could use a crowdfunding platform, like kickstarter, where the community could show their support for new maps monetarily.

To encourage people to donate to the crowdfunding campaign, they could be rewarded those who pledge with in game items from unique decals to unique mech skins, depending on the amount donated.

This would be a benefit to all, PGI would have help funding new maps (since they don't generate income directly) while giving the general community new maps, which the game needs to stay fresh.

Or they could just stop making everything else cause it has been a total $hitshow for the past year.... InfoWar, Energy Draw, Skill Maze, Escort, Incursion, CW 3/4/4.1 like seriously JUST STOP IT!!!!!!!!!!! Keep making mechpaks and make us new maps, that is the sole capability that PGI has shown to be capable of and I would settle for them to stop making the game worse and at least give us more maps. I would start spending money again if they would do just that... I have suggested starting a New Map fund for months now.

[RestosIII]

Or, y'know, they could make maps from the money they already get from MC sales, mech bay sales, cosmetic item sales, and mech pack sales. That's always an option for them.

[I_AM_ZUUL]

RestosIII, on 10 June 2017 - 02:33 PM, said:

Or, y'know, they could make maps from the money they already get from MC sales, mech bay sales, cosmetic item sales, and mech pack sales. That's always an option for them.

That money is being wasted on their "designing new features" that are horrible and the community has rejected repeatedly... and spent on MW5. All I want PGI to ever do again is make a new Map and a new Mechpak every month... that is the best possible result given PGI capacity at game design.

[RestosIII]

I_AM_ZUUL, on 10 June 2017 - 02:36 PM, said:

That money is being wasted on their "designing new features" that are horrible and the community has rejected repeatedly... and spent on MW5. All I want PGI to ever do again is make a new Map and a new Mechpak every month... that is the best possible result given PGI capacity at game design.

Please no. They still have plenty of quality of life improvements they need to add. Stuff like colorblind support and HTAL.

[I_AM_ZUUL]

RestosIII, on 10 June 2017 - 02:39 PM, said:

Please no. They still have plenty of quality of life improvements they need to add. Stuff like colorblind support and HTAL.

They are not going to do those anyways... so lets settle for them not making it worse. I am dreading the SNAFU that new tech is going to bring when they move the timeline... since PGI only has 2 reactions Ignore Forever (if it favors Clan) & Instant Nerf into Oblivion (if it favors IS).

[RestosIII]

I_AM_ZUUL, on 10 June 2017 - 02:52 PM, said:

They are not going to do those anyways...

I'm going to keep holding out hope that PGI finally adds a basic feature that should be in every single modern game before they finally shut down. That's my campaign to lead. I won't give up on PGI yet on that front.

[Accused]

lol

[Monkey Lover]

Maps cost hundreds of thousands per Russ. I don't see the kick starter pulling in this much. I don't think k 1 map is worth adding anymore. They need to add assets to the maps we have now.

[Khobai]

maps are 250k each

so wed need to kickstart 250k for one map

[MechaBattler]

They could just bundle some goodies together as a map fund raising pack. Maybe include a nifty cockpit item that gives 5% more XP or something like that.

[cazidin]

PGI tried to Kickstarter an entirely new game and that was rejected. Do you really think attempting to Kickstart new maps when you're being funded by new mechpacks every month would go over well with anyone?

[Andi Nagasia]

in the Roadmap for June, July, and Beyond, they say new maps are coming,

[Koniving]

Khobai, on 10 June 2017 - 03:39 PM, said:

maps are 250k each

so wed need to kickstart 250k for one map

What I find absolutely amazing... is people make better maps in their basement, for free, just because.

...and then showcase them as ideas for PGI to use.

[Accused]

Andi Nagasia, on 10 June 2017 - 03:45 PM, said:

in the Roadmap for June, July, and Beyond, they say new maps are coming,

Sometimes later this year they might maybe have perhaps a new map or two. Most probably.

[Felbombling]

250k per map was the cost Russ floated during Beta. They must have a healthy library of game assets that can be repurposed for the sake of new map development by now. That alone would greatly reduce that 250k price tag, I should think.

Going by the latest roadmap, the next map will be coming out roughly one full year after the Terra Therma rework was released back on October 18, 2016. The Huntsman was released on that patch, as well. Coincidently, that was the last Mech pack I bought, because I'm fairly salty over the lack of maps in game.

[jjm1]

Koniving, on 10 June 2017 - 03:48 PM, said:

What I find absolutely amazing... is people make better maps in their basement, for free, just because.

...and then showcase them as ideas for PGI to use.

This.

And Cry-engine famously has a real time map editor too. Just what coding horrors have they achieved that make map design so difficult all of a sudden.

[BlueFlames]

Crowdfunding has worked out so well for PGI in the past.

[Monkey Lover]

Koniving, on 10 June 2017 - 03:48 PM, said:

What I find absolutely amazing... is people make better maps in their basement, for free, just because.

...and then showcase them as ideas for PGI to use.

People working in a basement have the same skill as anyone else. There is still costs even if they are given a map.
Programmers have to put it I to the game. Testers have to test it. 2d graphics have to be made, maps have to be fixed when. They have issues. Walls have to be made and so on.

But yes lots of games have put out tools to allow players to mod games and it does work good. PGI doesn't want this because they want full control they said.

BlueFlames, on 10 June 2017 - 04:56 PM, said:

Crowdfunding has worked out so well for PGI in the past.

I would crowd fund mwo 2.0 on a new engine with more than 24 players with others features .

[Ted Wayz]

Remember those job postings for PGI and people thought those resources were meant for MWO?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Give it up people. They do not generate tangible income and are resource hogs. This game is on life support as PGI continues to milk the IP while they have it.

Kickstarting, crowd sourcing, whatever still requires in-house resources no matter where the money comes from. You have a better chance of seeing god...or Russ on these forums.