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[Felicitatem Parco]

With the new tech coming out we're going to see a surge in missile deployment. The ATM12 and MRM40 will bring more firepower-per-hardpoint than ever before.

The Jester has 2 AMS hardpoints and can mount 3 Snub Nose PPCs across the torso sections (LT and RT each with SNPPC, AMS, 2 DHS, and 2 slots of LFE; CT with a SNPPC; AMS ammo in legs). The super-vulnerable arms can be used for more DHS if space/weight allows.

Will this be a useful build to revive the Jester?

Edited by Prosperity Park, 15 June 2017 - 10:15 AM.

[Bud Crue]

Haven't run mine since the skill tree, but I had been intending to keep mine the way it is: XL325, 2LPL, 4ML and dual AMS, but convert the 4ML to ERML. Your suggestion makes me think that perhaps I might just replace the LPLs with SNPPC. It's all going to depend on the actual weapons stats and what they do with the Energy Re-Balance. I like speed to much to consider dropping the engine so I don't know if I will LFE it or not. I do like the sound of your proposed build though.

[Felicitatem Parco]

Since LPL is so much more heat-efficient, a pair of SnubNoses and a LPL in CT would work for me in exchange for a DHS, and to enable an untaxed alpha. LPL and MLs work, too... I just like Particle Cannons.

Edited by Prosperity Park, 15 June 2017 - 10:32 AM.

[Escef]

Honestly, in Tuk3 I pulled out my Jester with 2xAMS, 2xERLL, 4xML, 350XL. And it did just fine. I suppose you could take it, strip the arm armor, yank a heat sink and all the existing energy weapons, and pop in 3xSnPPC...Pretty good convergence with them all being torso mounts.

[Dread Render]

I will very likely try other builds for sure...
But I have no real need to change the current 6mpl XL build.
IT works well for me. ;-)

[Brain Cancer]

Snubs will have the advantage of being PPFLD, which is going to put them in competition with LPLs. I think we'll see a lot of them getting used, not just on stuff like the Jester, but the Grasshopper and other such beasts.

[JC Daxion]

well 2 LL's+ 4 MPL's is still a great build.. I doubt i will do anything different.. Well outside of trying an LFE in it as the thing has tons of extra weight with that build. Might be worth running a bit slower to be able to loose an entire torso.

Not really sure the jester needs any sort of reviving. It's one of the fastest heavies in the game, has JJ's, dual AMS, and puts out nice DPS. I've run this thing for years.. it's in my top 3 as far as stats go. Only 2 mechs are higher, and one i haven't played in years so not sure if it is still great or not. The only mech i play that has better stats is the TDR-5SS, which is a great mech. So if the mech is a shade lower than that, i'd call it darn good.


No clue how a snubnose will be different, but if any catapult would mount them and get better, id say it would be the K2

Edited by JC Daxion, 15 June 2017 - 08:42 PM.

[Karl Streiger]

Almost have 400m range for the MLs on the Jester - with Survival tree and double AMS it is already though as nails.
However i don't like lasers in general (dead boring to shoot things with them) - so I look forward for more PPCs

LFE is set already - I plan to sell some Kodiaks and Maulers so there would be enough money to buy some LFEs even when I don't play enough games to get the C-Bills otherwise

[LordNothing]

i wonder if i can get a pair of rac 2s and a pair of lppc in my k2.

[Escef]

LordNothing, on 15 June 2017 - 11:26 PM, said:

i wonder if i can get a pair of rac 2s and a pair of lppc in my k2.

Don't see why not. I used to run 2*LL & 2*AC5 on it with 4 tons AC ammo, +2 double sinks, endo, ferro, and a 315XL.

[Mechteric]

AMS ammo? What for, laser AMS will be where it's at!

[Felicitatem Parco]

CapperDeluxe, on 16 June 2017 - 02:54 AM, said:

AMS ammo? What for, laser AMS will be where it's at!

OMG, imagine a triple LaAMS Nova...

It will really go Nova.

[Angel of Annihilation]

Prosperity Park, on 15 June 2017 - 10:13 AM, said:

With the new tech coming out we're going to see a surge in missile deployment. The ATM12 and MRM40 will bring more firepower-per-hardpoint than ever before.

The Jester has 2 AMS hardpoints and can mount 3 Snub Nose PPCs across the torso sections (LT and RT each with SNPPC, AMS, 2 DHS, and 2 slots of LFE; CT with a SNPPC; AMS ammo in legs). The super-vulnerable arms can be used for more DHS if space/weight allows.

Will this be a useful build to revive the Jester?

Revive the Jester? What the hell are you talking about? The Jester is an amazing mech and near the top of the list of favorite mechs IS or Clan that I own. Super Small Profile, JJs, 80 kph with a standard engine, 2 LPLs High mounted and 4 MLs mounted in line with the Cockpit on a chassis that has built in +10% to Energy range and -5% to energy heat. Combine will with range and heat skills from the Skill tree and I am pumping out solid firepower out into 450m range which isn't far off what most Clan laser builds range out to and running Ice cold. Sorry but this mech is a beast as is.

With the new tech I will be upgrading the MLs to ER MLs to get about 100m extra range from them and if I decide to drop in a LFE, I can either get thing moving into the 90+ kph range, boost the DHS count even more and/or drop back in the dual AMS system, maybe even Laser AMS depending on how much heat it generates.

Seriously it never ceases to amaze me how people seem to think great mechs suck. I suspect it either has to do with their build or their playstyle rather than the mech.

[Navid A1]

Are LRM20+artemis causing any trouble at the moment?

Do you think unguided missiles are effective past 300 m?


MRM40 and ATM12 are the least of your concerns!!!