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[Wicked Gaming]

i don't get it back then people welcomed lrms i start playing again and soon as i announce lrms here i get cursed and bashed heck even when i don't announce it i still somehow get blamed for a loss even though no one still locks targets and i still manage to pull off 1300 dmg in matches with 4-5 kills. also just today i announced lrms and 2 people disconnected and one went afk forcing a loss, i gotta say this community has fallin off since i played last but not to make this thread all negative i have ran into a few people that have welcomed me and of course i say thank you to those people i always say if you can get locks gettum but don't do it at a risk of yourself. anyway i just noticed this community has gotten real toxic toward lurmers and its kinda sad for the people that cant even put up 100dmg just sayin

[Monkey Lover]

Because most people dont pull 1300dmg and even with 1300dmg that's all spread out. I might count it worth 400-500 worth of laser /ac dmg.

Yesterday I saw a some heavy clan mech I forget what one with 3x lrm 20. He rained on a red core grasshopper with 3 or 4 shots of 60lrms before the grasshopper got to cover. He couldn't even kill the red core mech. If the guy had a few medium lasers he would have died.

People want to win and take lrms isn't the way to do it. So they get mad. Best thing to do is join a group.

Edited by Monkey Lover, 15 June 2017 - 11:01 AM.

[BattleBunny]

If you share armor I dont care what you are firing with.

[dario03]

The discos and afk probably wasn't from the lrm announcement, unless they literally said it and left. Game has always had issues for some and unless it got fixed there has been extra problems as of late due to some network problems across NA.

And the lrm hate is simply from people not liking the play style of lrm, don't like playing them, don't like playing against them. Others don't like other styles but I guess lrms have the largest amount of players against them. Gets worse if you keep saying to hold locks and/or complain that players are not.

Edited by dario03, 15 June 2017 - 11:03 AM.

[Escef]

BattleBunny, on 15 June 2017 - 11:00 AM, said:

If you share armor I dont care what you are firing with.

Honestly, I don't care if people share armor or not, so long as they share firepower.

[FupDup]

A badly designed weapon system that doesn't require aiming in a game where aiming at many different hitboxes is one of the most unique and important aspects of it, can be easily nullified by basic things like cover or certain equipment, frequently depends on the enemy team messing up in order to be effective, often depends on the LRMer's team to keep locks, encourages a playstyle of hanging in the back and thus not sharing armor with the team, and allows you to attack without endangering yourself (person getting hit can't always retaliate).

LRMs don't feel fun for the person getting shot or even the person shooting them at times. There have been calls for LRMs to be redesigned for a long time, but it will never happen.

[Ced Riggs]

Wicked Gaming, on 15 June 2017 - 10:52 AM, said:

i don't get it back then people welcomed lrms i start playing again and soon as i announce lrms here i get cursed and bashed heck even when i don't announce it i still somehow get blamed for a loss even though no one still locks targets and i still manage to pull off 1300 dmg in matches with 4-5 kills. also just today i announced lrms and 2 people disconnected and one went afk forcing a loss, i gotta say this community has fallin off since i played last but not to make this thread all negative i have ran into a few people that have welcomed me and of course i say thank you to those people i always say if you can get locks gettum but don't do it at a risk of yourself. anyway i just noticed this community has gotten real toxic toward lurmers and its kinda sad for the people that cant even put up 100dmg just sayin

The problem is, currently, having you on one's team increases chances for a loss, because you tend to die more often than get a kill, and your average match score says you rarely, if more than once, pulled 1300 damage. On average, you kill less than one enemy per match.

(Redacted)

Using LRMs is part of that performance.

Sorry.

The disdain is justified.

Edited by Andi Nagasia, 25 June 2017 - 09:10 AM.
redacted as per Name & Shame,

[Escef]

Ced Riggs, on 15 June 2017 - 11:13 AM, said:

Using LRMs is part of that performance.

Sorry.

The disdain is justified.

I also pulled that same mech out for 3 matches this morning and my worst game in it was 600+ damage (the other two were 1100+ and 1200+ damage).

[Felicitatem Parco]

Short answer:

Some people who consider themselves to be excellent players like to look down upon others.

[Escef]

Overall, the hatred for LRMs is a bad combination of people that play them poorly and people with horrible misconceptions about what they can do. That and being on the receiving end sucks, because you often don't even get to see the guy raining fiery destruction on your noggin.

[Wicked Gaming]

BattleBunny, on 15 June 2017 - 11:00 AM, said:

If you share armor I dont care what you are firing with.

of course if the match is still going and im out of missiles i always ask who needs armor

Ced Riggs, on 15 June 2017 - 11:13 AM, said:

The problem is, currently, having you on one's team increases chances for a loss, because you tend to die more often than get a kill, and your average match score says you rarely, if more than once, pulled 1300 damage. On average, you kill less than one enemy per match.



Using LRMs is part of that performance.

Sorry.

The disdain is justified.

i mean like i said i just started playing the game again and yea in my lrm boat my dmg is 900-1300 3-4 kills and im usually the last one alive

[Dread Render]

I am really only against LRM Boats. Nothing wrong with LRM as a 2nd, 3rd or 4th weapon.

Because they are not on the front line sharing their armor next to me as we deal damage to the enemy.
Because they don't see the blood they spill.

[Brain Cancer]

People hate LRMs because they're the easiest weapon in the game to be bad with (and are a bad player magnet), but the toughest to even be average with given the abundant counters.

It's also because being killed by LRMs apparently humiliates some players and frustrates others, as you may never even see your killer. Mind you, I don' t equate LRM damage with direct fire damage 1:1, as inherent spread means you're losing at least 33% of it to hitting random non-lethal locations. 1000 for LRM me is a 600ish game for Mr. Laservomit, with similar K/KMDD counts.

I admit though, I relish the salt every time someone gets ticked off because I mashed them to death with rockets. Getting brawling bonuses on LRM kills. Luring people who think I'm another potato in and sending them running when they find out I have other guns and yes, I do know how to aim them.

My name is Brain Cancer, and I'm a missile addict.

[Ced Riggs]

Escef, on 15 June 2017 - 11:31 AM, said:

I also pulled that same mech out for 3 matches this morning and my worst game in it was 600+ damage (the other two were 1100+ and 1200+ damage).

I am not sure if a video named "QUAD MEDIUM LASERS!" and another one were you use lasers for over half of the video because your LRM tubes are dry are a good showcase of the greatness of LRMs. Good piloting, though. Now imagine what you could do with SRMs, Laser Vomit, Ballistics or literally anything other than LRMs. You already drew most of your damage from the quad medium lasers.

[Wicked Gaming]

anyway thanks for the input and im gonna keep rockin my lrm boat because i ENJOY it of course when i see another lrm boat shooting missiles into the face of a rock i call them out but its all i can do no one listens to anything in pugs anyway

[Jman5]

Best just to ignore it. People have different reasons of varying legitimacy, but It's not worth stressing out about.

For example, people here are complaining about damage spread/farming, but LRMs don't hold a candle to the damage spreading that goes on with Streak SRMs. At least LRMs try to focus around the CT. Streaks are designed to RNG all over your mech.

You want to see damage farming? Build a Clan streakboat dropdeck for Faction Play and bring it to any map that isn't an ultra long range map. Now that's damage farming.

[Escef]

Ced Riggs, on 15 June 2017 - 11:42 AM, said:

I am not sure if a video named "QUAD MEDIUM LASERS!" and another one were you use lasers for over half of the video because your LRM tubes are dry are a good showcase of the greatness of LRMs. Good piloting, though. Now imagine what you could do with SRMs, Laser Vomit, Ballistics or literally anything other than LRMs. You already drew most of your damage from the quad medium lasers.

Honestly, with those other builds I don't generally do as well because I'm very aggressive with them. Which really sucks in the solo queue, because you rarely have backup because people are horrifyingly timid. Running LRMs tends to curb my aggression and lets be a bit more cerebral about my positioning. I hate sniping, and I love to brawl and skirmish.

Edited by Escef, 15 June 2017 - 11:50 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

usually one of a few reasons

1) Person is bad, doesn't use cover, understand counters and doesn't want to adapt
2) person is tryhard that takes a frikking video game way too dang seriously
3) person has some laughable belief that there is some deep skill and honor tied up in clicking pixels in a video game in a certain manner, and that anyone who disagrees with them are skill-less cowards, etc.

I mean honestly... I have no use for the d-bag hanging back at 900 meters saying "hold locks please" but if that sort of player wasn't doing that, they'd just find some other way to be useless, and at least this way they are staying out of my way. Honestly they bother me less than the morons who shoot their own team in their desperate need to pad their KDr epeen, or who park behind you and block your line of retreat.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 15 June 2017 - 12:07 PM.

[Luminis]

Brain Cancer, on 15 June 2017 - 11:40 AM, said:

(and are a bad player magnet)

This.

The weapon system might have its issues. Doesn't mean one can't do well with it, as has been said multiple times already. it's just rare, from my experience, to see someone do a real good job with them.

[Bishop Steiner]

Brain Cancer, on 15 June 2017 - 11:40 AM, said:

People hate LRMs because they're the easiest weapon in the game to be bad with (and are a bad player magnet), but the toughest to even be average with given the abundant counters.

My name is Brain Cancer, and I'm a missile addict.

Hi Brain Cancer, welcome to Missile Lovers Anonymous.