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[Wintersdark]

I've opened all mine.

I was considering just selling them, but I've had a ready supply of MC from events and such and these nothing else I really cared about buying with it, so I figured wtf, I'd open them.

In all my caches - and I had a LOT - I haven't gotten a single worthwhile prize. I mean, they were worth a good number of cbills in total (supply caches are a reasonable MC>cBill conversion after all) but it's just...


Not fun, I guess. That's the best way to put it. Oh look at the massive pile of LRM15's, AC5's, etc. Yay. The prizes that aren't even quasi unique things like cockpit items but random gear you already have lots of and will never even notice.

[Mystere]

The6thMessenger, on 20 June 2017 - 04:20 AM, said:

I just got a 1k MC from the supply cache. While i do think that congratulations are in order, i feel that i'm gonna get bad luck the rest of the month.

Peanuts! Get back to me when you've earned several thousand MC.

Edited by Mystere, 20 June 2017 - 08:17 AM.

[JediPanther]

Quick buy another and double down! All or nothing in pgi's slots! And winning some thing other than a tag or ams is nice too. Congrats.

[Tordin]

Congrats. Use those MC WISELY. Unlike me... *cough*

[LORD ORION]

Shifty McSwift, on 20 June 2017 - 04:48 AM, said:

Well when you run a public communications platform inclusive of all ages you can make up as many anti-snowflake rules as you want. But if you want to continue posting on someone elses public communications platform, you should probably abide their house rules.

That only works when there is a separation of business and government. If anything, business wields the same power as the church did when separation of church and state was necessary for freedom to prevail.

When government or business doesn't have to arrest a person for speech, because they can effectively silence and ruin that person through civil law, media campaigns, permanent loss of employment and/or court influence on unrelated matters ... what real difference is there?

It becomes problematic when you can poll the public for opinion, and punish the opinions you don't like.

Ultimately go fund a private club and don't ask for public opinions if you want to circle jerk only with like minded individuals.

[Roughneck45]

How many crates would you say it took?

My best opening was 3 modules the day before they were patched out, turned into about 15 mil.

Edited by Roughneck45, 20 June 2017 - 11:08 AM.

[C E Dwyer]

Congrats, now we know the good prize has been won this year, we can save our keys for 2018

[Shifty McSwift]

LORD ORION, on 20 June 2017 - 10:59 AM, said:

That only works when there is a separation of business and government. If anything, business wields the same power as the church did when separation of church and state was necessary for freedom to prevail.

When government or business doesn't have to arrest a person for speech, because they can effectively silence and ruin that person through civil law, media campaigns, permanent loss of employment and/or court influence on unrelated matters ... what real difference is there?

It becomes problematic when you can poll the public for opinion, and punish the opinions you don't like.

Ultimately go fund a private club and don't ask for public opinions if you want to circle jerk only with like minded individuals.

Quite an oversimplification or exaggeration to liken public forum censorship/moderation to a lack of separation in church and state. Matters that involve libel and slander and other language/speech based laws like anti advocation of violence laws may not involve a policeman arresting you but they are entirely legal matters of many societies, settled through the same legislative and repressive arms of the government apparatus(es).

The distinction of a public platform owned by a particular party is a big distinction here. Using the church again, you are usually free to go into a church, and could probably have a conversation with a friend in there without any problems, but if you start shouting racial slurs and swearing at other church goers etc, society will censor you in a different manner.

Even things like public "shaming" that have seen a rise in unexpected ways through internet technologies, used for various different reasons, have some validity in a world of free speech, someone might be free to say an offensive or whatever thing on a particular platform, others are free to respond to it. In many cases the things you type on the internet are considered "published works" by the same/similar definitions that writers and journalist are subject to in our contemporary world.

Whether or not the idea of consumerist/corporate ideology becoming the "new church" in that church and state metaphor/example is the case, is probably a deep and interesting discussion, the relationships of structured corporate organisations and governments impacting each other and the rest of society to potentially similar ends, so I would definitely agree at least to an extent.

[Toothless]

^ Waaaay too long of a reply to a red herring of the thread.

[TheMisled]

And here I sit with 30+ keys and having not received a single cache for the past 40 odd games... T_T

[Shifty McSwift]

ZacharyJ, on 20 June 2017 - 11:32 AM, said:

^ Waaaay too long of a reply to a red herring of the thread.

To what though? The topic isn't making any particular arguments, I am not attacking the OPs comments. It's certainly off topic at this stage, but I felt a response was merited to that side discussion that emerged as a result of the OP.

Edited by Shifty McSwift, 20 June 2017 - 11:40 AM.

[ice trey]

Shifty McSwift, on 20 June 2017 - 04:39 AM, said:

Rules for bypassing the filter are for good reason, the title of this OP doing so is a point to consider of course, but he is not doing it for nefarious reasons overall, no one is being attacked through it etc. There's a distinction there, but true enough to be on the safe side best to just avoid doing it.

I've had mods breathing down my neck for less.

[Antiparticle]

Noice. I got 500 MC once. That was my best unbox so far.