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[BattleBunny]

Navid A1, on 20 June 2017 - 01:15 PM, said:

RIP.

it will take 3 months for PGI to notice this, and another 3 months to fix it

Any other game would have some kind of statement on it by now.

[Rhaegor]

What the **** PGI?

[Navid A1]

[BattleBunny]

so the forums have to link twitter to await chris responce....on facebook or someth?

[Jay Leon Hart]

BattleBunny, on 20 June 2017 - 01:34 PM, said:

so the forums have to link twitter to await chris responce....on facebook or someth?

Welcome to MWO! Where the only way to get Russ to post here is to accuse PGI and IGP of being the same company

[Alexander Garden]

Hey all,

Huge apologies for the ninja change here. An unintended value change for the Clan ER Large wasn't caught during the testing of new values in this patch.
A fix for this is slated for inclusion into a potential hot-fix; I'll keep everyone posted on further updates as to when we can expect the hot-fix to go out.

[Nomad One]

FupDup, on 20 June 2017 - 12:19 PM, said:

He was referring to PGI's designer notes. PGI said that supposedly the new 0.5 reload time increase means that the IS [ER]PPC will have better DPS to a single hitbox, while the Clan ERPPC has still dramatically better total DPS because dat splash.

In practice, the intentions of those designer notes are wishful thinking at best. It's not gonna change anything, really.

Just goes to show that the developers need to stop looking purely at spreadsheets and need to actually play their game if they are to make changes that affect it.

Otherwise people just 'might' get the impression that you're incompetent...

[BattleBunny]

Alexander Garden, on 20 June 2017 - 01:37 PM, said:

Hey all,

Huge apologies for the ninja change here. An unintended value change for the Clan ER Large wasn't caught during the testing of new values in this patch.
A fix for this is slated for inclusion into a potential hot-fix; I'll keep everyone posted on further updates as to when we can expect the hot-fix to go out.

nice. im happy you make me eat my words.

[Y E O N N E]

SilentWolff, on 20 June 2017 - 12:50 PM, said:

Its still a nerf. And this thread is about ERLL, not ERPPC.. Got anything relevant to say about that or are you just trolling as usual.

It's an inconsequential one.

And if they added an extra point of heat, they should roll it back. It was unnecessary.

As for trolling, I don't normally troll. But you do by being completely dense.

And there you have it: it's getting rolled back.

[pyrocomp]

BattleBunny, on 20 June 2017 - 01:42 PM, said:

nice. im happy you make me eat my words.

Still nicer would've been Chris own response. Not much would've changed in that case, but the general attitude of devs towards the community.

[SilentWolff]

Yeonne Greene, on 20 June 2017 - 01:44 PM, said:

It's an inconsequential one.

And if they added an extra point of heat, they should roll it back. It was unnecessary.

As for trolling, I don't normally troll. But you do by being completely dense.

And there you have it: it's getting rolled back.

Lets see, its a Erll post and you come in and post nothing about ERLL and Im the one thats dense? ***** please.

Glad to see it rolled back. Too bad PGI cant double check their work b4 they release patches.

Edited by SilentWolff, 20 June 2017 - 01:49 PM.

[KodiakGW]

KodiakGW, on 16 June 2017 - 02:12 PM, said:

How many bugs were caught and fixed by running PTS? *snip*

Many might not be happy with the changes coming in the next patch, but have they tested every energy weapon on every mech? Probably not, but some tester might find that 5000% cooldown glitch on that one mech with that one energy weapon that they didn't bother testing.

Just putting this out there for those that argued with me about not doing a PTS for energy changes on the roadmap thread, and their buddies who liked their post. Just saying.

[Bulletsponge0]

WarHippy, on 20 June 2017 - 12:59 PM, said:

I understand. I was just pointing out that patch notes here are rarely if ever completely accurate.

But you'd have to think that they would list an increase to the heat of the cERLL in the patch notes, in the specific section where they list other changes that they have made to the cERLL.. They went to the trouble to list those changes, why leave this one out?

[Wyald Katt]

How long have we had this "ER-LL" thing?

[Navid A1]

Wyald Katt, on 20 June 2017 - 02:30 PM, said:

How long have we had this "ER-LL" thing?

Heat typo you mean?

Since about 4 hours ago

[cazidin]

A bit scary how fast Russ was to throw Chris under the bus there...

...he could've just said "It's a bug and we're working on a hotfix now."

[Quicksilver Aberration]

SilentWolff, on 20 June 2017 - 01:48 PM, said:

Lets see, its a Erll post and you come in and post nothing about ERLL and Im the one thats dense? ***** please.

You realize he responded to you mentioning something about the cERPPC "nerf" in this "ERLL" thread.....so yes, you are the one that is dense apparently XD

If you don't want people to comment about the cERPPC, then don't mention it in your post in the first place, especially since it wasn't really a nerf since heat generally limits your DPS more than cooldown does with the cERPPC anyway, ezpz.

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 20 June 2017 - 02:43 PM.

[Felicitatem Parco]

Gold and platinum are dense, too.

#DensityIsn'tBad

[MischiefSC]

Ghogiel, on 20 June 2017 - 12:54 PM, said:

The closest you see to sniping anywhere is erppc gauss, and that's not really sniping, Well not since the range nerfs anyway.

Brawling.. well up until this smpl nerf, was how many drop decks have been built. Pretty much be building around double NVAs half the damn time.

No, not quite.

It's 3 Novas and a SPL Mr. Gargles.

The ACH is a solid mech but with a niche role. A good brawler Nova can usually get into range (with a good pilot) to do his goodness on about any map and with/against any team.

All that's going to change on that is ERSML instead of SPL. 60pts is still a hell of a lot and being able to do it at 230m (with skillz) helps.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

MischiefSC, on 20 June 2017 - 02:44 PM, said:

No, not quite.

It's 3 Novas and a SPL Mr. Gargles.

He is talking about comp, not FW, specifically MRBC where brawling or pushes were fairly common even in the heavier drops.

MischiefSC, on 20 June 2017 - 02:44 PM, said:

All that's going to change on that is ERSML instead of SPL. 60pts is still a hell of a lot and being able to do it at 230m (with skillz) helps.

It's still not near as effective because it had worse DPS AND worse duration than the old cSPL build, and now the duration is worse than before on cERSL. Sure it has a bit more range but that doesn't really change that much when you have damn near a 50% increase in duration compared to the cSPL Nova.

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 20 June 2017 - 02:54 PM.