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[Felicitatem Parco]

MischiefSC, on 20 June 2017 - 02:44 PM, said:

All that's going to change on that is ERSML instead of SPL. 60pts is still a hell of a lot and being able to do it at 230m (with skillz) helps.

My 12 ERSL Nova will remain unchanged, though. I always thought the longer range and 6 DHS were worth it over the SPL build.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Prosperity Park, on 20 June 2017 - 02:55 PM, said:

6 DHS were worth it over the SPL build.

They weren't, prior to this patch those 6 DHS did not overwhelm the better Damage to Heat ration of the cSPLs. 5 cSPL > 6 cERSL (+ 2 DHS) in DPS, or at least was. The question used to be whether you wanted 35m better optimal, or 25% decrease in duration. Most realized the correct answer was shorter duration.

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 20 June 2017 - 02:59 PM.

[Mystere]

mogs01gt, on 20 June 2017 - 12:22 PM, said:

what the **** are you talking about? The game is nothing but a camp fest at range. Since when is brawling even used anymore other than bored players.

Well, I do know I go "Banzai!" whenever a drop starts to bore me.

[SilentWolff]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 20 June 2017 - 02:39 PM, said:

You realize he responded to you mentioning something about the cERPPC "nerf" in this "ERLL" thread.....so yes, you are the one that is dense apparently XD

If you don't want people to comment about the cERPPC, then don't mention it in your post in the first place, especially since it wasn't really a nerf since heat generally limits your DPS more than cooldown does with the cERPPC anyway, ezpz.

Thank you, I'm aware of the conversation that didn't include you or your opinion.

[G4LV4TR0N]

Finally could test it using my method and as we all know it's also bugged in-game. But method works as intended.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

SilentWolff, on 20 June 2017 - 06:07 PM, said:

conversation that didn't include you or your opinion.

Cool story, didn't realize this was a private message.

[Athom83]

Antares102, on 20 June 2017 - 11:10 AM, said:

WTF?
Clan ERLL has 11 heat in game.
This was not in the patch notes.
Just checked their HPS stats. It assumes 10 heat for 1.96 HPS which the changes table large lasers provides.

Not like it still has lower heat and higher damage than it should have. http://www.sarna.net...nge_Large_Laser Oh wait.

[FupDup]

Athom83, on 20 June 2017 - 07:04 PM, said:

Not like it still has lower heat and higher damage than it should have. http://www.sarna.net...nge_Large_Laser Oh wait.

That applies even more so to the IS ERLL, which got a 33% heat reduction relative to TT.

Let's just stick to what stats make the guns work in MWO.

Edited by FupDup, 20 June 2017 - 07:10 PM.

[Deathlike]

FupDup, on 20 June 2017 - 07:05 PM, said:

That applies even more so to the IS ERLL, which got a 33% heat reduction relative to TT.

Let's just stick to what stats make the guns work in MWO.

NO U (PGI)



I don't even know why we're supposed to be live testing the XML changes.

[Athom83]

FupDup, on 20 June 2017 - 07:05 PM, said:

That applies even more so to the IS ERLL, which got a 33% heat reduction relative to TT.
Let's just stick to what stats make the guns work in MWO.

You missed my point. I was commenting on how silly it is to complain on how something you used that got nerfed is still better than it was in the source material. I agree that values should be changed case by case to better fit the game.

[QuantumButler]

QA is a lost art apparently.

[Snowhawk]

So, and where is the hot-fix? 11 heat for the C ER larger laser was not mentioned in the patch notes....

[A Shoddy Rental Mech]

Russ Bullock‏ @russ_bullock 9 hours ago twitter

Being told that C-ERLL change was unintentional so there will be a hotfix with a few items no eta yet

Soon™

Edited by The Nerf Bat, 20 June 2017 - 10:43 PM.

[4EVR]

Balance in MWO is orders of magnitude better than TT. Seriously. I think TT is a fine example of complexity bias: the rules are complex and we tend to assume that complexity equals quality, even if there's evidence to the contrary. Compare that to the novels, where artistic license meant a single AC5 could be a fearsome weapon. The novels describe a style of mech combat. I'd much rather they get the feel of that combat right, and the TT rules are of little help in that regard.

[Bellum Dominum]

SilentWolff, on 20 June 2017 - 11:37 AM, said:

Guess once again, PGI caters to the Brawl fest n00bs. Surprised? You shouldn't be. Can't have people complaining about being picked apart at range, cause that's not a legitimate play style. No, only brawling and having to aim under 200 meters is acceptable to the absolute potatoes that play this game.

wow... 5 ... 6 years now since launch? Brawlers are being called noobs today? that is funny.... I remember well when it was the pokeypokes that caught all the hell because they weren't up with the Brawlers

Edited by Bellum Dominum, 21 June 2017 - 08:02 AM.

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