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[Tier5 Kerensky]

I was curious which mech could be best to carry two gauss and two PPCs. A best would have them in arms, yes?

I could only find one which can carry 2xPPC and 2xgauss in hands with lower arm actuators, it's Marauder IIC Hero Scorch. Dire Wolf can carry both in arms too, but without lower arm actuators.

Are there others, I was manually looking at store, which doens't have all special mechs. What about second best things, like gauss in hand and PPCs in high torso mounts?

[Felicitatem Parco]

Night Gyr with JJs and the GoosePeeps seems to be a favorite.

[4rcs1ne]

KDK-3 can do two ERPPC's two Gauss Rifles really well.

The nice thing about it is that you can run an asymmetrical loadout which means you can dedicate one side as a shield.

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[Big Tin Man]

Most powerful? Gotta go with the true, original whale that scoffs at a mere 2ppc/2gauss

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If only PGI would release it from it's mobility shackles back to the days of true fear...

And yes, you can make it asymmetric, but it's a Direwhale. You're not turning, corner peeking or twisting. You're turning mechs info vapor. Or getting horribly murdered from behind.

[Escef]

Not mine, but...

[LowSubmarino]

Night Gyr is infinitly stronger than a direwolf or even a kodiak with such a setup. Even though they can easily equip more firepower with an extra ppc and still enough ammo for double gauss. It is more mobile and jjs combined with 2 gauss and 1 ppc is not even comparable to a setup without that kind of mobility.

Sniper weapons start to really shine, when the platform allows you to quickly change levels, jump to advantageious positions or even jump snipe. Cross canyons like in canyon network, get to elevated positions like on mining etc etc.

Even if a direwolf or kodiak could double the firepower, that still pales compared to the ability to constantly have way more firing options and vectors.

Ur firepower wont do you any good if you can only use it in 30 % of the scenarios.

As it is now, Night Gyr outclasses any other double gauss option - clan or Is - by a huge margin.

It also looks like a space marine.....and who doesnt love space marines

[Quicksilver Aberration]

The Scorch is nice, but so is the MAD-IIC-C with 2 Gauss, 2 ERPPC (STD270 though, so you will be slow). For comp where you can't use money-only builds, the MAD-IIC-C is better than the KDK-3 because of the better symmetry, profile, and agility. The Night Gyr can also do it depending on the scenario because it generally sacrifices either longevity or leg armor to pull it off which can be too much of a sacrifice to bother with the extra PPC.

Outside of that, honestly the Whale is nice with 2-4 extra ERML on top for some extra oomph when you need it as is the Night Gyr. The KDK-3 with Gauss/PPCs just isn't near as good as it used to be, especially in an era where asymmetry is honestly not worth it.

[El Bandito]

If you are ballsy you can do the PPFLD config with Mauler-2P. I prefer 2xGauss+3xERLL personally. Even more so, post patch.

[PhoenixFire55]

Marauder-IIC obviously. Fully right-sided. Next best thing is Kodiak, then DireWolf. Dire - fully right-sided. Then Hero Supernova and KingCrabs. Then Mauler. Last thing is NightGyr. Symmetrical, and lacks armor. Thats it.

The further you go down the given list, the more of a joke build it becomes. For 12v12 ammo concerns are quite important, NTG for example isn't viable. For 8v8 comp play on the other hand it is.

[Karl Streiger]

Why double?
Huntsman get 2 for the price of one (double Gauss double ERPPC for only two lifes)- only half the fire power but twice the mobility plus working jumpjets

Edited by Karl Streiger, 20 June 2017 - 04:06 AM.

[TheArisen]

The new Mauler hero looks like it's begging for dual gauss & x2 ppc.

[kapusta11]

TheArisen, on 20 June 2017 - 04:15 AM, said:

The new Mauler hero looks like it's begging for dual gauss & x2 ppc.

Only one month to go.

[Bigbacon]

arctic cheetah 2 ERPPCs in the side torsos + ECM

Edited by Bigbacon, 20 June 2017 - 04:54 AM.

[Birthright]

The problem with 2 ppc on NTG is that you have to strip armor to equip it and run with 0 heatsinks.

This leads to really ****** DPS even for a sniper and if you get hit by LRM you gonna lose your legs or whatever part you stripped armor off.

I tried NTG with 2 ppc and I was not pleased, i think 2 Gauss 1 PPC is way better.

Im running 2 gauss, 1erppc and 2 ermed.

[Ultimax]

Mad Cat MK II in July will probably run it as good or better than current CBill options - pending hitboxes for overall performance vs. MAD-IIC.

It also gets hover jets, but I wouldn't factor those into performance due to how bad they are.

[Coolant]

Be great if pilots would think outside the box

[Jay Leon Hart]

El Bandito, on 19 June 2017 - 05:55 PM, said:

If you are ballsy you can do the PPFLD config with Mauler-2P. I prefer 2xGauss+3xERLL personally. Even more so, post patch.

I'll probably run the Knockout with goose waffles and pea pieces.

[Edit] SO CLOSE!

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Edited by Jay Leon Hart, 20 June 2017 - 08:50 AM.

[Humpday]

I seem to be an odd duck here.
The velocity diff's between the erPPC and gauss mess with me...
I actually like erLL + gauss...make shift laser sight.

On a side note, I'm surprised how many folks let you full burn a cERLL...several times now I'm like...does this dude know i'm burning a hole in his chest...they only seem to get moving after the thunk of the dual gauss hitting them.

[Beaching Betty]

Mauler 1P and Direwolf..

2 PPC + 2 GAUSS

Wooosh!

[Metus regem]

Ultimax, on 20 June 2017 - 06:13 AM, said:

Mad Cat MK II in July will probably run it as good or better than current CBill options - pending hitboxes for overall performance vs. MAD-IIC.

It also gets hover jets, but I wouldn't factor those into performance due to how bad they are.

In this instance Ultimax, I think that the using a MAD-IIC Scorch would be the better choice due to the inherent inefficiencies of a 90t platform over an 85t platform. Granted the 90t can boast more armour, yet will have to give up engine size to reach it, due to the extra weight of the base engine required to get the same ground speed. It's really going to come down to how much Yaw and Pitch angles the Mad Cat II is going to get, as well as how will her hit boxes work with being about 20% larger than a standard Timber Wolf....