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#1 UnofficialOperator

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 05:54 PM

Went away when they started testing the new heat changes 7 months back. So what's changed? Anyone could give me a TLDR or point me to some interesting threads to read up on?

Much obliged :)

#2 Kaethir

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 06:16 PM

View PostUnofficialOperator, on 31 May 2017 - 05:54 PM, said:

Went away when they started testing the new heat changes 7 months back. So what's changed? Anyone could give me a TLDR or point me to some interesting threads to read up on?

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Biggest thing is the skill tree. Did a search for 'skill tree guide' and almost all the results are at least somewhat relevant.

The patch notes are pretty well done, if you're willing to read a bit:
https://mwomercs.com...15-16-may-2017/

Examples:
https://mwomercs.com...ill-tree-guide/
https://mwomercs.com...the-skill-tree/
https://mwomercs.com...ill-tree-guide/
https://mwomercs.com...the-skill-tree/
https://mwomercs.com...from-metamechs/

Edited by Kaethir, 31 May 2017 - 06:18 PM.


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Posted 31 May 2017 - 06:18 PM

Great, thanks much.

100 ton mechs still viable or nerfed? Read that somewhere on the steam forums that the Kodiak and King Crab got nerfed.

Edit: Weird, so I've been running the KDK3 in testing ground with zero unlocks and I don't feel much difference in the handling. Or is it just me?

Edited by UnofficialOperator, 31 May 2017 - 07:31 PM.


#4 UnofficialOperator

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 09:30 PM

Hi guys, is the new heat system in? My kdk 3 doesn't seem to have changed much from 7 months back

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Posted 01 June 2017 - 12:11 AM

Not bad for not playing for 7 months eh?

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Followed Tarogato's guide here https://mwomercs.com...ryhard-edition/
but I took Radar Derp. If you don't like Radar Derp, you remove it as it is 16 SP.

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Using KDK 3 with 375 engine with 5 DHS, 2x uac 5, 2 x uac 10, clan active probe, targeting computer mk 1, 6 tons of uac 5 ammo, 6 tons of uac 10 ammo, 1x advance uav and 2 x enhanced cool shots.

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Hope this helps whoever is coming back.

PS: Am considering maxing AMS & survival instead, dropping radar derp. Will test it out on another mech.

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Have changed armor to structure instead. Will test and feedback here again.

Edited by UnofficialOperator, 01 June 2017 - 02:10 AM.


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Posted 01 June 2017 - 03:32 AM

View PostUnofficialOperator, on 31 May 2017 - 09:30 PM, said:

Hi guys, is the new heat system in? My kdk 3 doesn't seem to have changed much from 7 months back

No, the Energy Draw system was not implemented.

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Posted 01 June 2017 - 04:23 AM

View PostHorseman, on 01 June 2017 - 03:32 AM, said:

No, the Energy Draw system was not implemented.


Great thanks!

Here's my next 10 games after changing out armor for structure. Survivability seemed to have dropped though. Or maybe matchmaking improved, pitting me vs tougher opposition. 5 wins 5 losses. WLR dropped but KDR improved. Shrug. Next up, I'll swap out radar derp for max survival and probably more yaw/pitch and we'll see how.

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Posted 01 June 2017 - 07:15 AM

View PostUnofficialOperator, on 31 May 2017 - 06:18 PM, said:

100 ton mechs still viable or nerfed? Read that somewhere on the steam forums that the Kodiak and King Crab got nerfed.

Edit: Weird, so I've been running the KDK3 in testing ground with zero unlocks and I don't feel much difference in the handling. Or is it just me?

Mixed in with the skill tree was the Engine Desync, where base agility values became tied to tonnage instead of individual chassis. Raw speed won't have changed much (at least with speed tweak unlocked), but turn speed/twist speed/etc should have dropped a bit. Without any skills unlocked you should have been at pre-speed-tweak speeds from the old skill setup.

I don't have a KDK so I can't comment on that specifically. Most of my mechs don't feel significantly different, at least after skillups, except that if I don't take speed tweak they are slower.

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Posted 01 June 2017 - 11:08 AM

View PostUnofficialOperator, on 01 June 2017 - 04:23 AM, said:

Here's my next 10 games after changing out armor for structure. Survivability seemed to have dropped though.

Grab this calculator to see which node configuration gives the most optimal survival boost for your mech: https://mwomercs.com...ost__p__5761581
By my calculations, maxing out only one type of HP nodes gives you less of a buff than taking both together.
On a 21SP budget, the 7/7 setup ( https://tarogato-mwo...4c-1568d3cf99d5 ) is probably the most optimal one I can suggest. There's a 23SP 8/7 setup that drops the AMS node and instead grabs the nodes on the right with 1 more structure node.

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Posted 01 June 2017 - 11:09 AM

Last update for my KDK 3.

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WLR & KDR been dropping even though the later builds without Radar Derp seemed tougher. Anyways can't really tell. Will be testing other builds.

View PostHorseman, on 01 June 2017 - 11:08 AM, said:

Grab this calculator to see which node configuration gives the most optimal survival boost for your mech: https://mwomercs.com...ost__p__5761581
By my calculations, maxing out only one type of HP nodes gives you less of a buff than taking both together.
On a 21SP budget, the 7/7 setup ( https://tarogato-mwo...4c-1568d3cf99d5 ) is probably the most optimal one I can suggest. There's a 23SP 8/7 setup that drops the AMS node and instead grabs the nodes on the right with 1 more structure node.


great thanks!

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 11:15 AM

Final post for me before I head off on another hiatus as the Steam sale is just around the corner :).

It's been a pretty fun month for me, logging in 1000 games of which 857 of it was in lights. I was never a great light pilot before but this time round, it felt great to pilot the artic cheetah, even netting me the Ace of Spades for the first time ever. In fact, I might never go back to piloting assaults again :)

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If any new players need any advice, feel free to pm me or comment here. I'll still check back occasionally on the forums and probably will be back once the next big patch hits.





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