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#1 Shifty McSwift

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Posted 04 July 2017 - 02:57 PM

From this;
https://vid.me/zyxs

To this;
https://vid.me/eOxo

On the same PC over the course of a day.

I don't know how it happened, and I don't know why, but damn do I miss playing without FPS spikes.

A sad solo violin is playing somewhere for me right now I know it Posted Image

And don't ask me what the point of this post is, the point is my sadness, lol.

#2 Alcom Isst

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Posted 04 July 2017 - 02:59 PM

Perhaps you shouldn't stream Futurama episodes while playing the game? Posted Image

#3 Shifty McSwift

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Posted 04 July 2017 - 03:04 PM

View PostAlcom Isst, on 04 July 2017 - 02:59 PM, said:

Perhaps you shouldn't stream Futurama episodes while playing the game? Posted Image


In that one video example there was a video disabled futurama episode playing in the background at some ridiculously low CPU percentage. I have not recorded the near 100 other games I have run in test attempting to get rid of this spiking effect.

I should have mentioned. The futurama is not causing it.

#4 Alcom Isst

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Posted 04 July 2017 - 03:22 PM

View PostShifty McSwift, on 04 July 2017 - 03:04 PM, said:

I should have mentioned. The futurama is not causing it.

Then don't salt your demos with bogus variables. Posted Image

Is something else running in the background? Is your PC overheating and throttling? I'm assuming you tried restarting it.

#5 LordNothing

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Posted 04 July 2017 - 03:28 PM

just leaving firefox running in the background is enough to cause some fps spikes dips. cryengine is sensitive to such things and doesnt make use of newfangled processor features.

Edited by LordNothing, 04 July 2017 - 03:30 PM.


#6 Shifty McSwift

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Posted 04 July 2017 - 03:29 PM

View PostAlcom Isst, on 04 July 2017 - 03:22 PM, said:

Then don't salt your demos with bogus variables. Posted Image

Is something else running in the background? Is your PC overheating and throttling? I'm assuming you tried restarting it.


If it didn't take so long to upload video I might make more examples, this post is just to express my sadness, I already have a post based around trying to fix the issue;
https://mwomercs.com...rops-in-new-pc/

And yes I have tied turning it off and on again.
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#7 Shifty McSwift

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Posted 04 July 2017 - 03:35 PM

View PostLordNothing, on 04 July 2017 - 03:28 PM, said:

some fps spikes dips.


The word spike isn't indicative of a direction, just of the shape of a sharp angle, which these drop-offs or stutters or whatever we should call them, would show up in spike shape on a graph.

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Posted 04 July 2017 - 03:41 PM

View PostShifty McSwift, on 04 July 2017 - 03:35 PM, said:


The word spike isn't indicative of a direction, just of the shape of a sharp angle, which these drop-offs or stutters or whatever we should call them, would show up in spike shape on a graph.


ive always used 'dips' in place of 'spikes' to indicate negative direction. years of staring at oscilloscopes have conditioned me to avoid imprecise language.

#9 Shifty McSwift

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Posted 04 July 2017 - 03:43 PM

View PostLordNothing, on 04 July 2017 - 03:41 PM, said:


ive always used 'dips' in place of 'spikes' to indicate negative direction. years of staring at oscilloscopes have conditioned me to avoid imprecise language.


But then what would you call literal spikes hanging downward from a ceiling? Posted Image

#10 Tarl Cabot

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Posted 04 July 2017 - 03:46 PM

In the one with no apparent issues it is running 60-70FPS almost constantly, with some few drops into 50s. The one with lag spikes and video stuttering the game is running approximately 45-55 FPS then both the fps drops and stuttering. That is a big difference. I know you have another thread running there is more going on for there to be that much difference running the same system.

View PostShifty McSwift, on 04 July 2017 - 03:43 PM, said:


But then what would you call literal spikes hanging downward from a ceiling? Posted Image

Icicles if made with water or such, or stalactite as what is find on cave ceilings.... Posted Image

Edited by Tarl Cabot, 04 July 2017 - 03:47 PM.


#11 Shifty McSwift

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Posted 04 July 2017 - 03:49 PM

View PostTarl Cabot, on 04 July 2017 - 03:43 PM, said:

In the one with no apparent issues it is running 60-70FPS almost constantly, with some few drops into 50s. The one with lag spikes the game is running 45-55 FPS with massive drops. That is a big difference. I know you have another thread running there is more going on for there to be that much difference running the same system.


I think honestly that's mostly the map, grim plexus is a beast.

If you look at the second match in the video, when my guy looks over to that same spot on the map the FPS dips to 50ish (after the direwolf goes down) in the "good" video.

And yes, good eye, there are little spikes I noticed this also, but they barely last a split second, and never go into the red, and also I think there's bound to be some of that during the games in the best of circumstances for my PC at least.

#12 Shifty McSwift

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Posted 04 July 2017 - 03:58 PM

View PostTarl Cabot, on 04 July 2017 - 03:46 PM, said:

Icicles if made with water or such, or stalactite as what is find on cave ceilings.... Posted Image


Gah you are just driving my fastidiousness further lol (anything to distract me from the sadness is welcome), does that mean he would call a stalagmite a spike? What about man made spikes hanging downward for a ceiling? What about spikes running horizontally? Posted Image

#13 Tarl Cabot

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Posted 04 July 2017 - 04:05 PM

Man-made spikes on the ceiling or wall would be spikes, but even more than that I was be very, very worried that I was in the wrong place while hoping beyond all hope the door was not locked and led my out of that place!!!

#14 Shifty McSwift

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Posted 04 July 2017 - 04:12 PM

View PostTarl Cabot, on 04 July 2017 - 04:05 PM, said:

Man-made spikes on the ceiling or wall would be spikes, but even more than that I was be very, very worried that I was in the wrong place while hoping beyond all hope the door was not locked and led my out of that place!!!


Yeah if I was looking at ceiling spikes I would be less concerned about what to call them and more concerned about the architectural intentions of the building I am currently in, this is true. Nonetheless, even if they started to descend, if someone beside me yelled "These dips are about to impale us!", I might correct him, if I wasn't too busy trying to get out.

Edited by Shifty McSwift, 04 July 2017 - 04:13 PM.


#15 LordNothing

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Posted 04 July 2017 - 04:59 PM

View PostTarl Cabot, on 04 July 2017 - 03:46 PM, said:

In the one with no apparent issues it is running 60-70FPS almost constantly, with some few drops into 50s. The one with lag spikes and video stuttering the game is running approximately 45-55 FPS then both the fps drops and stuttering. That is a big difference. I know you have another thread running there is more going on for there to be that much difference running the same system.


Icicles if made with water or such, or stalactite as what is find on cave ceilings.... Posted Image


now lag spikes work as its a measure of how much latency you have, since positive == bad, spikes indicate the bad thing. also goes to show how much context affects the meaning of words. im talking data analysis, not cave structures.

Edited by LordNothing, 04 July 2017 - 04:59 PM.


#16 Prototelis

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Posted 04 July 2017 - 05:14 PM

View PostShifty McSwift, on 04 July 2017 - 03:43 PM, said:


But then what would you call literal spikes hanging downward from a ceiling? Posted Image


Stalactites

Edit: GAH someone beat me to it :P

Edited by Prototelis, 04 July 2017 - 05:14 PM.


#17 Shifty McSwift

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Posted 04 July 2017 - 07:23 PM

Now my sadness lies in thinking about how long it took me to consider that it could be malware, or in thinking about how much faith I put in security software I had not tested before. Nonetheless, my sanity is proven, I wasn't imagining things and my PC didn't go potato on day 1. Yaaaaay, sadness fading.

#18 UnofficialOperator

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Posted 04 July 2017 - 07:26 PM

How about power supply? U got enough?

i.e. like did you plug in some extra components or devices after 3 days?

Edited by UnofficialOperator, 04 July 2017 - 07:34 PM.


#19 El Bandito

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Posted 04 July 2017 - 08:22 PM

View PostShifty McSwift, on 04 July 2017 - 02:57 PM, said:

From this;
https://vid.me/zyxs

To this;
https://vid.me/eOxo

On the same PC over the course of a day.

I don't know how it happened, and I don't know why, but damn do I miss playing without FPS spikes.

A sad solo violin is playing somewhere for me right now I know it Posted Image

And don't ask me what the point of this post is, the point is my sadness, lol.



When in doubt, reinstall everything. Windows, graphics card etc...

#20 Vellron2005

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Posted 05 July 2017 - 12:38 AM

I've been getting FPS dips alot too.. started after the Skill Tree patch..

Although I almost always have firefox in the background since I browse the web while waiting for matches to start..

But it didn't used to happen before the aforementioned patch..

PGI has actually said the recent framerate drops and disconnects were not their fault, they could not find and fault in the servers and that we should check with our ISP's..

ALL OF US, no matter which corner of the world we are in, or what ISP we use.. should check with our ISPs..

For me, that was a slap in the face really..

Just PGI "working as intended" I guess..

Edited by Vellron2005, 05 July 2017 - 12:41 AM.






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