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[Davegt27]

I was wondering if anyone had developed a chart or something
that told you the max benefits you can get per node category?

like cool down max = ??
range = ??

[DjPush]

Have you tried maxing out one of the nodes..... and then seeing what value you get?

Edited by DjPush, 07 July 2017 - 04:55 AM.

[Akaraut]

From what i can remember of the weapons tree without logging in to the game.

Heat 10.5%
Cooldown is either 12% or 12.5%
Velocity 10%
Laser duration 15%
Range 15%

Also some values change depending on if you're using IS or clan. The easiest way to check is to load up the game, picking a random mech and messing with the skill tree. You can do that without spending any exp/c-bills.

[skelley92]

www.metamechs.com has some sample skill tree selections for different build types.

You may want to try there.

[Davegt27]

I had to reload windows a few time over the last few weeks so I lost all those links

thanks for the links

[process]

Go here: https://kitlaan.gitlab.io/mwoskill/

Click "select all nodes".

[Davegt27]

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Go here: [color="#b27204"]https://kitlaan.gitlab.io/mwoskill/[/color]

Click "select all nodes".

I cant get that thing to work

[Mechwarrior4670152]

Akaraut, on 07 July 2017 - 05:05 AM, said:

Also some values change depending on if you're using IS or clan.

And your weight class.

Lights get a higher percentile armor bonus than assaults do

Clan Assault - 1% per node
Clan Light - 2.3% per node

Davegt27, on 07 July 2017 - 12:44 PM, said:

I cant get that thing to work

Gimme a minute

[Mechwarrior4670152]

Clan Light

AMS overload +2.5
Advanced zoom +1
Anchor Turn +25
Armor hardening +23
Cool run +10
Cooldown +9.6
Enhanced ECM +45
Gauss Charge +1
Hard Brake +24.5
Heat containment +15
Heat Generation -10
Heat Shielding -30 (Jump jets)
High explosive +15 (crit chances)
Hill climb +15
Improved Gyros -70 (screen shake)
Kinetic burst +24.5
LX Spread -10
Laser duration -10
Lift speed +15 (jump jets)
Missile Spread -5%
Quick ignition -35
Radar Deprivation +100
Range +15
Reinforced Casing -8 (reduces crit chance recieved)
Sensor range +35
Shock absorbance -50 (fall damage)
Skeletal density +38 (structure health)
Speed retention +30
Speed Tweak +7.5
Target Decay +3.5 seconds
Target info gathering +35
Torso pitch +10
Torso speed +30
Torso Yaw +10
UAC Jam chance -5
Vectoring +125 (how often missiles turn?)
Velocity +10
Vent calibration +15 (Jump jet duration)




Could be better organized, but that is what clan lights get (for everything but misc and the other non-% items)
Also included one or two non-% items, but...
Most of it is %'s

[Mechwarrior4670152]

If you want a different weight class I can copy that over as well

[Davegt27]

cool thanks
maybe it an windows explorer thing

[Mechwarrior4670152]

Possibly, there are parts of this website that do not show up on Google Chrome.
And IE is well known for being pretty crappy (No offense)

[Davegt27]

no worries I am studying an old PC game like its the Tech data from an F16 I cant be to bright lol

Edited by Davegt27, 09 July 2017 - 09:10 PM.

[Insanity09]

I just looked for the highest numbered node of a type and used math, but sure, a chart works too.

[Mechwarrior4670152]

Insanity09, on 08 July 2017 - 10:43 PM, said:

I just looked for the highest numbered node of a type and used math, but sure, a chart works too.

I have problems noticing the nodes I am looking for (and have not yet memorized the tree, due to limited internet access of a quality that lets me play) So the kitlaan website is more helpful for that, but yeah, that is what a lot of it boils down to.

Bigger question is what you have to go through to GET those nodes (Such as a single target decay bonus to get to 40% of the potential Radar deprivation) and whether those points would be better spent on other bonuses (dropping to 60% RD gives you 6 more nodes for example)

Edited by Wence the Wanderer, 08 July 2017 - 11:06 PM.

[Insanity09]

Yes, some sort of color coding, even a general category, if not a specific color for each node type, would be very helpful.

As has been screamed by many people in numerous threads, the skill tree as a whole could benefit from a simplification.
It is VERY challenging to try and figure out which points expenditure suits each mech best when the crucial nodes come along with several other nice, but not strictly necessary benefits. I suspect they were trying to make it tough for min-maxers, forgetting that makes it insanely tough for people don't fall into that category.
Choices, yes, but choices that matter in an understandable way, not some shrug-worthy morass.
Sorry, went off a bit there.

[Davegt27]

I hear you
I am still thinking about the weapons effectiveness thread from last weak

as I start to put on my Weapons Control Sys hat on then I go hay this a game and drop it

a few days later I start working on it again then I drop it again hey this is a game lets not dig to deep

[Mechwarrior4670152]

Insanity09, on 09 July 2017 - 04:36 PM, said:

Yes, some sort of color coding, even a general category, if not a specific color for each node type, would be very helpful.

As has been screamed by many people in numerous threads, the skill tree as a whole could benefit from a simplification.
It is VERY challenging to try and figure out which points expenditure suits each mech best when the crucial nodes come along with several other nice, but not strictly necessary benefits. I suspect they were trying to make it tough for min-maxers, forgetting that makes it insanely tough for people don't fall into that category.
Choices, yes, but choices that matter in an understandable way, not some shrug-worthy morass.
Sorry, went off a bit there.

In all fairness, most of those who are screaming about it have proven time and time again that they are not worth listening to.

IE: all the times people have screamed about there "not being a matchmaker"....
While suggesting improvements to the current (and supposedly non-existant) matchmaker.

Or claiming people have said things, while refusing to actually provide any evidence of those things having ever been said.

[JagdpantherX]

https://mwomercs.com...y2017#skilltree

Scroll down to the difference table.

Not complete sadly

Edited by JagdpantherX, 10 July 2017 - 12:35 PM.