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#21 Chagatay

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 06:32 AM

How so? 100 seems reasonable as you can get this even on a loss. 300 match score is just plain unreasonable and crazy talk.

It is very smart to be like Santa with events. PGI wants you to play (lots) even if you aren't a god of gaming. In order for you to get those juicy top prizes you need to log 150 games over 15 days....I don't know about you but that is a whole lot of playtime no matter how you slice it.

#22 KodiakGW

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 06:56 AM

For the longest time under the old match score system, 30 match score was the standard for receiving rewards. When we moved to the new system, that translated to 150 match score.

150 match score is a reasonable level for minimal team participation. Even in a loss. I've seen a HBK-IIC barely contribute with 87 damage, no assists & no kills, yet got about 104 match score. Must have been multiple UAV deployments. People are gaming the system.


#23 Catra Lanis

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 06:57 AM

I agree that 150 is reasonable, even a new player will get 150 on a win and on most losses as well.

#24 Willard Phule

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 07:16 AM

View PostUnited Airlines Security, on 14 July 2017 - 06:31 AM, said:

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We are starting to drift on this topic.....

How about people suggest possible ways for the OP to increase his Match score, like bring AMS in lower tiers as this earns your more points for your score, or bring a Narc or Tag to help our LRM boats, huge score boost there...

Be constructive otherwise I will be back and locking the thread.

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Not sure how he's supposed to put AMS on a trial mech....but you heard the guy, use AMS man, it'll help improve your score.

#25 poopenshire

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 07:18 AM

View PostWillard Phule, on 14 July 2017 - 07:16 AM, said:


Not sure how he's supposed to put AMS on a trial mech....but you heard the guy, use AMS man, it'll help improve your score.



Yeah the trials, but hopefully soon he can buy a cheap light and stock some AMS on it. Not saying its the best way, but its probably the cheapest way.

#26 Coolant

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 07:18 AM

free stuff is horrible...i can see why you complain

#27 Tesunie

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 08:48 AM

What could have been an interesting manner to run the event is to give out a loot bag for every 100-150 match score increment of all matches combined.

This would place even less stress on people who have a hard time getting the match score as, over time, they would get loot bags. If it's set up in 100 point increments, than enough 30-50 point match score games would eventually add up to loot bags. On the other side, if you could manage to get a match score of 300 in a single match, you'd earn three loot bags in that single match (with it being every 100 points per loot bag).

If it was set up as described above, then the match score per loot bag could be higher, and it wouldn't really make it all that more difficult to players who have a harder time with the game.


I say this because, trying to pass off a match score of 300 a match to get a loot as "easy to do" for a bag sounds a little... crazy to me... It's current limit of 100 seems reasonable as for a fun event. It's relatively easy to get for most people, so it isn't very stressful.

#28 GabrielSun

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 09:07 AM

I don't have a problem with the bad play. My average game score is pretty good (was 80 pts better before I tried that spate of drops with Timbys... #neverforget). What bugs me is the ridiculous amount of LRMing going on right now. Those guys are the simple reason why my average match score has gone up 100 pts this month.

#29 knight-of-ni

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 11:49 AM

Regardless of the specific achievement required to get the reward, events will always encourage bad play of one sort or another. Just roll with it.

#30 sycocys

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 12:15 PM

100 match score seems like the perfect time to be bringing out those 100+ alpha shot assaults that are normally only situationally awesome to play.

Plod to the front lines, fire one salvo, get your score. Everything after that is bonus points.

#31 Wildstreak

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 04:48 PM

View PostTWIAFU, on 14 July 2017 - 05:52 AM, said:

Not any better unless your in a 12man.

4man it up in Scout or 12man it in Invasion.

Better games, better teammates.

Runs up against the long time problem of people in units who say other unit members left and they have problems forming 12 mans.

View PostUnited Airlines Security, on 14 July 2017 - 06:31 AM, said:

[mod]

We are starting to drift on this topic.....

How about people suggest possible ways for the OP to increase his Match score, like bring AMS in lower tiers as this earns your more points for your score, or bring a Narc or Tag to help our LRM boats, huge score boost there...

Be constructive otherwise I will be back and locking the thread.

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But the OP is not requesting help on how to increase his match score.
He wants the event structure changed to less matches and needing a higher score.
That may make it harder for more people.

#32 kf envy

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 05:06 PM

View PostTripzter, on 13 July 2017 - 09:02 PM, said:

Seriously PGI the minimum is way too low..
100 score..

100 SCORE.

100...
Little recommendation.. lower the amount of games but increase the score needed to +300 please... for the love of santa clause.. encourage quality and teamwork rather than quantity...


/Rant


no it does not Encouraging Bad Play. an event like victors event get 1 kill 1 assist and done die that encourages bad play because people get what they need and go hide. you put it at 300 an you will get bad game play even more. just look at the history of events. an do remember school is out so all the squeakers are playing too.

#33 Tesunie

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 08:10 PM

View Postkf envy, on 14 July 2017 - 05:06 PM, said:

...an do remember school is out so all the squeakers are playing too.


Don't look down on the "squeakers" too much... Many of them are really good players of the game. I know of several myself that are very good at the game...

#34 Shifty McSwift

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 09:36 PM

"Event Encouraging Bad Play."

Mrmhrm, and what else is new? This event at least requires a score be made, not something like "Be a knob in a light", causing an influx of suicidal lights into the game.

Like one of the last ones.

Edited by Shifty McSwift, 14 July 2017 - 09:37 PM.


#35 Wildstreak

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Posted 16 July 2017 - 05:08 AM

Honestly, I do not see a shift with this event. Certain types of event do cause a change but this one....

Still the same people avoiding Domination circles on some maps,

Still the same people running away from the Escort or using him as a shield,

Still the same people thinking every mode is Skirmish then throwing a fit when they lose to the game mode.

Unless you have REALLY bad luck resulting in something like getting focus fired at first contact or do something REALLY stupid like suicide charge the entire enemy team early in a low armored UrbanMech, it is not that hard to get the score.

#36 ImperialKnight

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Posted 16 July 2017 - 05:10 AM

View PostWildstreak, on 14 July 2017 - 04:20 AM, said:

A higher match score would not change how people play.


the truth has been spoken

#37 Mister Blastman

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Posted 16 July 2017 - 05:56 AM

I don't think I've ever seen so many 12-0 or 12-2 rolls. Many players are suspiciously dying in the first sixty seconds... More than usual.

#38 ingramli

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Posted 16 July 2017 - 06:32 AM

View PostTripzter, on 13 July 2017 - 09:02 PM, said:

Seriously PGI the minimum is way too low..
100 score..

100 SCORE.

100...
Little recommendation.. lower the amount of games but increase the score needed to +300 please... for the love of santa clause.. encourage quality and teamwork rather than quantity...


/Rant

You get my dislike sir. I played hard every game but only 50~60% of games achieved a score of 100 or higher, which translate into 50~60 games i have to play for every 3 days during the event to complete. I am by no mean a good player, but please respect the time and effect i have devoted. Setting a higher standard will practically make the event irrelevant to me.Posted Image

#39 Tripzter

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Posted 24 July 2017 - 09:53 AM

View PostUnited Airlines Security, on 14 July 2017 - 06:31 AM, said:

[mod]

We are starting to drift on this topic.....

How about people suggest possible ways for the OP to increase his Match score, like bring AMS in lower tiers as this earns your more points for your score, or bring a Narc or Tag to help our LRM boats, huge score boost there...

Be constructive otherwise I will be back and locking the thread.

[/mod]

I admit, that made me giggle. Most of my games are +300score so that said while my scores are +100 and qualify easily i cant say the same about my enjoyment in the game when teams are full of "suicscouts"

#40 DaMuchi

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Posted 24 July 2017 - 11:28 AM

They probably made the event in FP because they wanted stats on how FP plays out with the new tech. I mean, I would do the same if I was a MWO dev and needed stats to balance a tonne of **** that was just released.



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