55 replies to this topic

[Ced Riggs]

I, too, am part of Team B and despise all members of Team A, because they are in a different team. All members of Team A are low lifes and probably don't pay taxes, whereas all members of Team B are, clearly, refined personalities of the highest skill and character. I know this because I, too, am a Team B member. By picking one of the arbitrary teams, I have instantly deducted these qualities (or lack thereof, pfsh!) of either team, and I can assure you, Team B is better than Team A all the way.

[Redacted]

What I am saying, is, none of this matters. Stop disliking each other, discrediting each other or automatically disregarding each other's opinion just because the chicken in the forum avatar is green or purple. Consider that most players play IS and clan mechs alike. Consider that people playing one side of the pie aren't actually Spheroids or Tube Toddlers. Especially when talking about balance, consider that people might not always aim to further some nefarious agenda decided upon in dark chambers only accessible to those pleding loyalty to a fictional flag.

Let's be a bit more excellent to one another, and less tribal.

Edited by draiocht, 16 July 2017 - 12:10 PM.
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[Deathlike]

Uh....

I'd like to think people are judged by the content of their argument and not the silly logo that is attached to the name or the unit they are affiliated with.

The reality is that people will always pick and choose who they want to respond to and how they respond to them due to many factors that may or may not be relevant to the discussion.

These are the Internets after all.

[RestosIII]

I wholeheartedly agree on the sentiment of us all coming together, no matter what faction you root for.

That way CDS has more customers.

[Mad Jack McMad]

Reminds me of this old Perry Bible Fellowship cartoon ...

[El Bandito]

Since most players play IS and Clan mechs alike, I want the base tech to be equal in competence. Many Clanners take offense to that.

[Carl Vickers]

The interesting part is IS loyalists vs clan loyalists with the mercs stuck in the middle saying both sides are wrong lol

[Abisha]

looks a lot like MWO playerbase

[Shifty McSwift]

Yeah apparently it needs to be said, but we are all mostly here for similar reasons, wanting similar things. People do seem to get bent way out of shape, I guess because the "competitive" environment can be so punishing/unforgiving, and some people can't stand to "lose" in such win/lose scenarios. Or maybe it is because we are all over privileged nerds? IDK lol.

[Luminis]

Deathlike, on 15 July 2017 - 01:35 AM, said:

I'd like to think people are judged by the content of their argument and not the silly logo that is attached to the name or the unit they are affiliated with.

Yeah, we'd all like that, I bet.

The reality is, however, that people are taking the whole IS vs. Clan mentality way too seriously. You see this whenever two diehard loyalists clash - the kind of player that'd never pilot a 'Mech of the other faction and argue about how underpowered their faction of choice is until they're blue in the face.

You know who I'm reffering to, I bet

Edited by Luminis, 15 July 2017 - 02:21 AM.

[Ced Riggs]

El Bandito, on 15 July 2017 - 01:50 AM, said:

Since most players play IS and Clan mechs alike, I want the base tech to be equal in competence. Many Clanners take offense to that.

Replace "many" with "some", splice in that the shoe fits on both foots, and that there's enough IS players that'd want to see clan techbase made unfeasible because they are still bitter about clans existing in the first place, and we'll have a complete picture.

That is the entire issue, really.

People deriding other people based on some forum avatar, and/or assuming if you are X, you can't look at things fairly. It's a catch 22, because there are heaps of people on either side of the fence that are more than willing to turn a blind eye to an issue of power creep as long as it's for "their side", and will go great lengths to point out even mild advantages of the other side's options. And that is bad for our discussion climate, and also makes our feedback as a whole so pointless for PGI to read.

You know who I am talking about. People that ask for Clans nerfed into the ground because they walked into an optimised Ebon Jaguar with an IS bracket build that overheated. People that got blasted by a 6 SRM6 Cyclops because they wanted to brawl with an Assault with their 4 ERLL EBJ. Dire Whale pilots that call out Locusts as OP and demand nerfs because they got backstabbed. IS pilots that still call Timmies OP, despite never having touched one. Clan pilots complaining about IS LRM assaults. IS ERLL outranging cERLL on over a third of IS mechs, yet claiming Clans always win the range game. None of that feedback is founded in reality, and heavily tainted by tribalism.

I do wish for a more differentiated debate, and more olive branches. "Yes, X is strong, but you have Y. I agree that X needs to be looked at, though, when comparing it to Y, maybe both need a pass." But I am hopeless romantic.

Edited by Ced Riggs, 15 July 2017 - 02:24 AM.

[Palfatreos]

Carl Vickers, on 15 July 2017 - 01:53 AM, said:

The interesting part is IS loyalists vs clan loyalists with the mercs stuck in the middle saying both sides are wrong lol

Your opinion is worth nothing dirty merc, you will change your opnion for a better pay!!!

[Carl Vickers]

Palfatreos, on 15 July 2017 - 02:56 AM, said:

Your opinion is worth nothing dirty merc, you will change your opnion for a better pay!!!

Touche

[Novakaine]

Abisha, on 15 July 2017 - 02:04 AM, said:

looks a lot like MWO playerbase

Well the Drazi one the left was definitely the brother drozi
Oh and Clanners smell funny.

Edited by Novakaine, 15 July 2017 - 03:57 AM.

[Skanderborg]

I'm afraid to hop into an IS mech because I'm concerned about getting an infection.

[Baulven]

I judge you for your jade chicken bit.

Juddddgggee.

[Oldbob10025]

Even though I make fun of the clans its all in jest and out of humor. I know there is another person that plays the game behind that computer screen and I welcome him playing against me or on my side of the match. Its all in jest and I think people take the back and forth way too serious when talking on the forums.

Were all gamers that play a game that we and I hope most love for everything about it. Big Stompy Robots and Battletech Lore. I play IS and Clan mechs (mostly Inner Sphere) and enjoy the challenge that it brings having the clans with better tech, etc but always remember there is another person that your fighting that enjoys the game if not more than you..

[Khobai]

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Since most players play IS and Clan mechs alike, I want the base tech to be equal in competence. Many Clanners take offense to that.

I dont think any clanners take offense to IS tech being equal.

What clanners take offense to is when IS expects their @!#$ to be outright better

You see a lot of bitter IS players that just want to vindictively balance the game so that clans suffer for the next 2 years because IS had to suffer for the last 2 years

[Monkey Lover]

Death to clanner! You lost Tukayyid and now you want to be friends? ; )

Edited by Monkey Lover, 15 July 2017 - 06:38 AM.

[bbihah]

Khobai, on 15 July 2017 - 06:18 AM, said:

I dont think any clanners take offense to IS tech being equal.

What clanners take offense to is when IS expects their @!#$ to be outright better

You see a lot of bitter IS players that just want to vindictively balance the game so that clans suffer for the next 2 years because IS had to suffer for the last 2 years

Nah, its just clams grasping their better tech while suckling each others peni like their moms ***** while gargling LORE SAYS CLAN MECHS BETTER DURRR. all the while looking the other way when anything about the negatives of clan mechs are stated yet never implemented.

Edited by bbihah, 15 July 2017 - 07:01 AM.

[Clownwarlord]

The only reason why Davions and HHOD are viewed negatively is because of Novakaine, where your lurms at buddy?

much love Nova