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[Felicitatem Parco]

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Inner Sphere AC10
• Added Heat Penalty when firing more than 3 AC 10 weapons simultaneously.

I can still run my favorite Cataphract build!

[FupDup]

I still think their fear over the Annihilator is completely unjustified.

[Felicitatem Parco]

FupDup, on 14 July 2017 - 08:28 PM, said:

I still think their fear over the Annihilator is completely unjustified.

I would run 4 AC/10 all day er'y day, son' !

[Monkey Lover]

Prosperity Park, on 14 July 2017 - 08:29 PM, said:

I would run 4 AC/10 all day er'y day, son' !

You still can the extra heat will be almost nothing for the 4th. Clans are linked at 2 and even if you fire 4 its only 1 heat more.

What they're limiting here is uac10s. You double tap 4 of these you're going to see some heat

[Felicitatem Parco]

Monkey Lover, on 14 July 2017 - 08:34 PM, said:

You still can the extra heat will be almost nothing for the 4th. Clans are linked at 2 and even if you fire 4 its only 1 heat more.

What they're limiting here is uac10s. You double tap 4 of these you're going to see some heat

Edited by Prosperity Park, 14 July 2017 - 08:40 PM.

[Andi Nagasia]

well with the ANH-2A you can take 4High Mounted Ballistics,
a ANH with Max Armor, +Endo, & Max LFE(300(46.8kph @20.5Tons)
will have around 55.5Free Tons, which is alot to work with,

[Jettrik Ryflix]

The Annihilator is going to be basically DOA with its speed and profile, with one saving grace - it can mount quad AC10s.

Oh, they're nerfing it before it hits the ground? RIP.

[El Bandito]

Jettrik Ryflix, on 14 July 2017 - 08:59 PM, said:

The Annihilator is going to be basically DOA with its speed and profile, with one saving grace - it can mount quad AC10s.

Oh, they're nerfing it before it hits the ground? RIP.

UAC10 and RACs are not linked, so there is that.

Edited by El Bandito, 14 July 2017 - 09:03 PM.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Andi Nagasia, on 14 July 2017 - 08:39 PM, said:

well with the ANH-2A you can take 4High Mounted Ballistics,
a ANH with Max Armor, +Endo, & Max LFE(300(46.8kph @20.5Tons)
will have around 55.5Free Tons, which is alot to work with,

Tell me again how great slow moving assaults fare in this game. Dire Wolf for an example with its high mounts (compared to cockpit) and even more free tonnage.

[Antares102]

Dakota1000, on 15 July 2017 - 06:48 AM, said:

Tell me again how great slow moving assaults fare in this game. Dire Wolf for an example with its high mounts (compared to cockpit) and even more free tonnage.

Most people just dont get how important mobility is it seems.
They rejoice when they look at the podspace and forget everything else around it.
Then then play the mech in SoloQ get wrecked and complain that the Annihilator cannot face tank 5 enemies when they expose themselves to bring their 4xAC10 to bear.
Thus they ask for serious armour quirks to compensate for the mech being so slow and... oh wait.
Armour quirks. It already got those. And it will still suck especially having that tummy and being even slower than an Atlas.

Mobility is more important than firepower guys because it lets you AVOID damage.
Avoiding damage is the most important aspect in a game were you have no HP regeneration of any sort.

Edited by Antares102, 15 July 2017 - 06:56 AM.

[Jay Leon Hart]

HUZZAH!

Now, about those PPC / LPPC caps...

[davoodoo]

Monkey Lover, on 14 July 2017 - 08:34 PM, said:

You still can the extra heat will be almost nothing for the 4th. Clans are linked at 2 and even if you fire 4 its only 1 heat more.

What they're limiting here is uac10s. You double tap 4 of these you're going to see some heat

I wonder what will be able to carry 4 uac10, 250xl anni??

I was considering that on pts and concluded that even if you could carry 4 uac10 and enough ammo, youd still shut down after few salvos due to lack of dhs.

also it would be ******* hilarious if 4 ac10 produced less gh than 2 ac20... someone really hates kgc if thats the case...

Edited by davoodoo, 15 July 2017 - 07:08 AM.

[Clownwarlord]

FupDup, on 14 July 2017 - 08:28 PM, said:

I still think their fear over the Annihilator is completely unjustified.

... wont stop me from running dual ac10 and dual lbx10 ... splat boom!

[MustrumRidcully]

Are you sure you understood the note correctly? Because I read it that Ghost Heat starts happening at 3 guns, not at 2 guns.

Or are you using only 2 AC/10 on your Cataphract?

[Jay Leon Hart]

MustrumRidcully, on 15 July 2017 - 07:37 AM, said:

Are you sure you understood the note correctly? Because I read it that Ghost Heat starts happening at 3 guns, not at 2 guns.

Or are you using only 2 AC/10 on your Cataphract?

Well...

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• Added Heat Penalty when firing more than 3 AC 10 weapons simultaneously.

Last I checked, 3 was not more than 3.

[Clownwarlord]

MustrumRidcully, on 15 July 2017 - 07:37 AM, said:

Are you sure you understood the note correctly? Because I read it that Ghost Heat starts happening at 3 guns, not at 2 guns.

Or are you using only 2 AC/10 on your Cataphract?

No understand, I have to shoot two at a time. I have a quad lbx direwolf that I fire two at a time and very rarely shoot all four, but when I do in it the heat is still manageable.

[Jettrik Ryflix]

El Bandito, on 14 July 2017 - 09:00 PM, said:

UAC10 and RACs are not linked, so there is that.

True, but from what I gathered in the PTS, RACs are far from competitive. Put them on the shelf with the IS LB20X.

[Escef]

FupDup, on 14 July 2017 - 08:28 PM, said:

I still think their fear over the Annihilator is completely unjustified.

It's not the 4xAC10 that scares people, it's the 4xUAC10 that does it.

[Dogstar]

RACs are possibly a viable secondary weapon on something like the Annihilator put an RAC5 in each arm and UAC10's in the torsos (assuming the tonnage will do it?) and use the RACs one at a time to fend off them pesky lights.

A pair of RACs fired one at a time should have reasonable downtime

Note that I'm theorycrafting this, haven't tried it out on the PTS!

[Bishop Steiner]

FupDup, on 14 July 2017 - 08:28 PM, said:

I still think their fear over the Annihilator is completely unjustified.

I'd have to say I lol'd when I say that in the notes, SMH

But tbh, in reality I put it right next to Gauss/PPC linked heat as a *shrug unless minmax tryharding* thing.