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#1 Xetelian

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 08:44 AM

Now we have light BAP, this handy device will make ECM even less relevant for half the tonnage of BAP. Now I could make a post about that exclusively and I think I will but what I really want to talk about now is the Mist Lynx's locked BAP.


I do not care if it had a locked BAP in lore, there are a lot of things that changed for better game play.
  • The MLX has huge arms
  • The MLX isn't very fast
  • The MLX is only 25 tons
  • The MLX can only bring ECM if it gives up essential energy hardpoints.
It has a lot of down sides and this is just another nail in the coffin.



Can we please have an additional DHS instead of a BAP? Please? I don't care if it is a locked DHS.



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Edited by Xetelian, 18 July 2017 - 08:49 AM.


#2 Angel of Annihilation

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 08:46 AM

View PostXetelian, on 18 July 2017 - 08:44 AM, said:

Now we have light BAP, this handy device will make ECM even less relevant for half the tonnage of BAP. Now I could make a post about that exclusively and I think I will but what I really want to talk about now is the Mist Lynx's locked BAP.


I do not care if it had a locked BAP in lore, there are a lot of things that changed for better game play.
  • The MLX has huge arms
  • The MLX isn't very fast
  • The MLX is only 25 tons
  • The MLX can only bring ECM if it gives up essential energy hardpoints.
It has a lot of down sides and this is just another nail in the coffin.



Can we please have an additional DHS instead of a BAP? Please? I don't care if it is a locked DHS.


I agree. Would love to be able to add a DHS in the place of the BAP.

#3 JadePanther

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 08:48 AM

new upcoming hero pods give u 4 energy + ecm..

#4 Dark Wooki33 IIC

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 08:50 AM

Hmm, what about no?

Only thing needed are armor quirks on the arms that dont have them atm.

#5 Xetelian

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 08:50 AM

View PostJadePanther, on 18 July 2017 - 08:48 AM, said:

new upcoming hero pods give u 4 energy + ecm..


Yet I can barely use those 4 E points because I can only fit 1 DHS.

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 08:57 AM

View PostXetelian, on 18 July 2017 - 08:50 AM, said:


Yet I can barely use those 4 E points because I can only fit 1 DHS.

micro lasers

#7 Xetelian

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 11:59 AM

View PostJadePanther, on 18 July 2017 - 08:57 AM, said:

micro lasers


Those do 2 damage and the MLX isn't as fast as a locust and can't reliably get around and behind all mechs.

11 damage from 4 Micro lasers isn't enough to scratch the paint on the back of an assault.

#8 Quicksilver Aberration

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 12:04 PM

If only there was a laser that mimicked the power of the SRM2 LCT-3S.

#9 FupDup

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 12:11 PM

View PostQuicksilver Kalasa, on 18 July 2017 - 12:04 PM, said:

If only there was a laser that mimicked the power of the SRM2 LCT-3S.

It's what PGI fantasizes as the "DPS Pulse Laser" but can't quite seem to make a reality.

#10 Quicksilver Aberration

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 12:12 PM

View PostFupDup, on 18 July 2017 - 12:11 PM, said:

It's what PGI fantasizes as the "DPS Pulse Laser" but can't quite seem to make a reality.

Oh I know, they just need to lower cooldowns on things like the cSPL or cmPL by like 40% to actually pull off.

#11 Dark Wooki33 IIC

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 12:17 PM

All this crazy talk about lazors ... get a damn uac2 on the thing and start kicking. Posted Image

#12 Quicksilver Aberration

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 12:18 PM

View PostDark Wooki33 IIC, on 18 July 2017 - 12:17 PM, said:

All this crazy talk about lazors ... get a damn uac2 on the thing and start kicking. Posted Image

..........I really hope this was sarcastic.

#13 FupDup

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 12:22 PM

View PostQuicksilver Kalasa, on 18 July 2017 - 12:18 PM, said:

..........I really hope this was sarcastic.

B-b-b-but muh ballistic and UAC quirks!

#14 Dark Wooki33 IIC

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 01:30 PM

Posted Image2ersml an uac2 and 1.5 tons of ammo and ofc 2 artstrikes. Posted Image

#15 FupDup

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 01:31 PM

View PostDark Wooki33 IIC, on 18 July 2017 - 01:30 PM, said:

...and ofc 2 artstrikes. Posted Image

That's where the majority of your damage came from.

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 01:48 PM

View PostFupDup, on 18 July 2017 - 01:31 PM, said:

That's where the majority of your damage came from.

All these yada yada yada Posted Image .
Actual it was more trying to crit out the weapons of the snv, while the kdk3 was out of ammo, that made the most damage. 2 ersml take ages to do something. Already changed it for 2 heavy small lasers, eager to look how it perfoms now.

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 02:03 PM

I've been so far playing only with Mist Lynx, about 5-10 games. I tried to convert my 2ERL into 2HLL but I was only getting similiar results. Im now trying 2HML which might be workable unlike 2ERM.

I've always thought it's a nice feature to have fixed CAP, and not agreed on it's removal. But considering the introduction of light CAP, maybe it could be changed to it.


And remember new cbill pods coming. This page is a ***** to find as you have to shift through a huge pile of annousments before you find it.

https://mwomercs.com...clan-hero-mechs

So I think any balance adjustments for Mist Lynx is quite natural to be done after the new pods, if necessarily. Mist Lynx will get 4 energy hardpoints with ECM,(two hand two ST) or dropping the ECM will allow it to have 4+4 ballistic hands for MGs. The RT will likely have it's limitation of 2 slots so no 4 HML with ECM, but 2 HML and 2ERM is pretty nice addition I think.

In fact I think the most cutest sollution is that the new pods also move 2 fixed armor slots from the RT to legs, so that 4HML would be possible.

Edited by Teer Kerensky, 18 July 2017 - 02:17 PM.


#18 Paigan

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 02:37 PM

View PostJadePanther, on 18 July 2017 - 08:48 AM, said:

new upcoming hero pods give u 4 energy + ecm..

The point is that about 1/8th of the Mech's equipment tonnage is locked by a near-useless item.
The hero pods won't change that.
And even if they did in some magical way, it cannot be that a whole chassis could only become un-screwed by buying a hero Mech.

It's so funny that even for the clearest, most obvious problems, there's always someone crawling out from somewhere and argueing completely beside the point that everything was fine.
And mostly, those people use degenerate grammar mistakes like "r" and "u".
Pattern.

Edited by Paigan, 18 July 2017 - 02:43 PM.


#19 JadePanther

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 02:59 PM

View PostPaigan, on 18 July 2017 - 02:37 PM, said:

The point is that about 1/8th of the Mech's equipment tonnage is locked by a near-useless item.
The hero pods won't change that.
And even if they did in some magical way, it cannot be that a whole chassis could only become un-screwed by buying a hero Mech.

It's so funny that even for the clearest, most obvious problems, there's always someone crawling out from somewhere and argueing completely beside the point that everything was fine.
And mostly, those people use degenerate grammar mistakes like "r" and "u".
Pattern.


is that a grammar nasti attack.. all over a myst lynx.. wow your panties must be up in such a twist its better to just go out and buy a new pair granny..

#20 Aleski

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 03:21 PM

With new Omnipods i was thinking about a Mist Lynx with ECM + 3x Heavy SL + 4x HMG.

I think it will be a good and stealthy little back stabber !





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