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[C4NC3R]

Bishop Steiner, on 19 July 2017 - 11:06 AM, said:

*sigh*

Kids these days...gotta teach em everything, GOSH!
WHM-6R

Meh... Bishie you ain't know how to "cook" a target. I know. MPL's ere are just laying waste on Hummer.
MPL's needen ere when U go 4 Twin-HPPC bedlam mode ON.

[v4skunk]

Kiiyor, on 19 July 2017 - 02:43 AM, said:

2 HPPC, 1 SNUB, TCMKII AWS-8Q

The humble Awesome can do well with them. With it's energy and universal PPC quirks, and some finagling with the skill tree, you can get the heat down to 10 for each HPPC, and 7 for the Snub.

You still have the whole Awesome issue to worry about though, with it's critical weakness; being shot at.

LOL with the armour skills the Awesome can take a serious beating. I'm running a 8Q with 2HPPC in torso and 2MPL in the arm. The build seems quite effective so far, the HPPC really do wreck the enemy.

[Karl the Plumber]

I dusted off my 6R for faction play, and so far I've been doing pretty well.

[Athom83]

Warhammer-7S There is probably another Warhammer variant that does the same build better, but I'm enjoying this and its somewhat lore like. Yes, it runs a bit hot but with proper management you rarely overheat.

Edited by Athom83, 27 July 2017 - 05:42 PM.

[Hit the Deck]

Athom83, on 27 July 2017 - 05:35 PM, said:

Warhammer-7S There is probably another Warhammer variant that does the same build better, but I'm enjoying this and its somewhat lore like. Yes, it runs a bit hot but with proper management you rarely overheat.

You didn't put any ammo for the MRM. Lemme fix that: WHM-7S

[Baba Yogi]

Anything heavier than a medium, you guys are wasting tonnage. HPPC is too heavy and hot to be utilized effectively with other weapons. Thus here's my poptart solution. Alternatively you can drop to x280 for another DHS

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...0d752450fc16bbb

If you feel you have to bring a heavy though, at least mount Rocket Launchers as a defense. Noone will attempt to brawl a guy with 4RL20s.

Edited by Lordhammer, 28 July 2017 - 02:21 AM.

[C4NC3R]

UM-R60

A true unexpected Trashcan Monster. Can't catch it... but he can kill ya in any darkest corner of the GRIM NEXUS)))

[Aleski]

I run them with goose waffle. I think they are too hot when paired.

Protector :
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...3665793eddb5ce1

Dragon Slayer :
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...51ec95578f4a346

Does anyone has find a good build of the Hellslinger with a pair of HPPC ? I would like to try that, but don't find a satisfying build for that...

Edited by Aleski, 28 July 2017 - 04:51 AM.

[Hit the Deck]

C4NC3R, on 28 July 2017 - 04:39 AM, said:

UM-R60

A true unexpected Trashcan Monster. Can't catch it... but he can kill ya in any darkest corner of the GRIM NEXUS)))

HPPC is actually really appropriate for the Urbie to substitute that heavy AC/10.

[oldradagast]

Awesome 8Q:
- LF 300, DHS
- 2 Heavy PPC's, 3 medium pulse lasers.
- Max (or near max, can't recall) armor
- Lots and lots of heatsinks

OPTION I'm experimenting with: downsize the backup weapons and pull a heatsink to try a mid-sized targeting computer.

It works great. I run one PPC in each torso, and the medium lasers in the head and 2 in the right arm since their main use is sweeping lights, so the extra mobility helps. The HPPC's hit like a truck, and that's nice. It's good to see this mech FINALLY be viable, without being gimped by stupid ghost heat, lousy engine choices, etc.

Edited by oldradagast, 28 July 2017 - 09:01 AM.

[Snowbluff]

THe perfect mech doesn't exi-
WHM-6R

Unless they're a math wizard, they won't figure out the weakpoint.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Snowbluff, on 28 July 2017 - 09:32 AM, said:

Unless they're a math wizard, they won't figure out the weakpoint.

You don't have to be a math wizard to know that you stripped armor/engine to fit that. The old Whammy build ran an XL and only had 2 UAC5s and 2 PPCs...

[Y E O N N E]

Snowbluff, on 28 July 2017 - 09:32 AM, said:

THe perfect mech doesn't exi-
WHM-6R

Unless they're a math wizard, they won't figure out the weakpoint.

Even without the stripped armor, it's using LB-10X with range. Ergo, not perfect.

TBQH, The WHM-6R has some decent enough quirks to make pairing a single AC/10 with 2x HPPC actually worthwhile. I think I like that better than 2x HPPC + 2x AC/5 on it; it doesn't need an XL and it can pressure a little better with 14x DHS instead of 12.

[Gas Guzzler]

Yeonne Greene, on 28 July 2017 - 10:08 AM, said:

Even without the stripped armor, it's using LB-10X with range. Ergo, not perfect.

TBQH, The WHM-6R has some decent enough quirks to make pairing a single AC/10 with 2x HPPC actually worthwhile. I think I like that better than 2x HPPC + 2x AC/5 on it; it doesn't need an XL and it can pressure a little better with 14x DHS instead of 12.

I tried running 2 UAC10s and a HPPC. It was too hot without even using the HPPC...

[Athom83]

Hit the Deck, on 27 July 2017 - 05:42 PM, said:

You didn't put any ammo for the MRM. Lemme fix that: WHM-7S

Recheck my link, I updated it the moment I realized I threw it together without the ammo.

[Y E O N N E]

Gas Guzzler, on 28 July 2017 - 10:12 AM, said:

I tried running 2 UAC10s and a HPPC. It was too hot without even using the HPPC...

I tried that on a Mauler and came to the same conclusion. I also tried the inverse; still too hot. Also tried it using LPL...still too hot.

I wouldn't even think about doing it on a Warhammer. But one AC/10 and two HPPC for mid-range PPFLD is solid if you do it on the right chassis.

Edited by Yeonne Greene, 28 July 2017 - 10:35 AM.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Yeonne Greene, on 28 July 2017 - 10:08 AM, said:

Even without the stripped armor, it's using LB-10X with range. Ergo, not perfect.

TBQH, The WHM-6R has some decent enough quirks to make pairing a single AC/10 with 2x HPPC actually worthwhile. I think I like that better than 2x HPPC + 2x AC/5 on it; it doesn't need an XL and it can pressure a little better with 14x DHS instead of 12.

I would prefer a GHR-5H over either of those though so I can try to pretend it is the IS version of the Summoner.

[Y E O N N E]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 28 July 2017 - 10:37 AM, said:

I would prefer a GHR-5H over either of those though so I can try to pretend it is the IS version of the Summoner.

Well, that's for pop-tarting. In my book, that's a different build archetype from corner poking.

[Snowbluff]

Gas Guzzler, on 28 July 2017 - 10:12 AM, said:

I tried running 2 UAC10s and a HPPC. It was too hot without even using the HPPC...

Silly build aside, I think 3 LPPC > 1 HPPC on that build or in general. If you're only doing 15 PPC damage light PPC are the way to go. I do 2 UAC5 and 3 LPPC LFE instead of 2 PPC 2 UAC5 XL with the new tech.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Yeonne Greene, on 28 July 2017 - 10:46 AM, said:

Well, that's for pop-tarting. In my book, that's a different build archetype from corner poking.

It's a different archetype maybe, but one is generally taken over the other for the same role. I think one of the builds more befitting of the Whammy is combining iERPPCs and iUAC2s, I know Mag has been running around trying it but I'm not sure he really felt it good enough.